Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Totor wrote: > I think option 3 is the best indeed, so that we will not lose the existing > road classification. Done! I'm finished with conflating OSM and Arivac data. There are some ways that I did not removed because I'm not sure which has better road representation. Eugene has some reservations with using: website:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/ Should I revert back to source_url:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/ ? > Would it be a big job to also create an osm file with the ways that are not > imported ? I can provide the original OSM file for others to use with offline editing. > This would allow in a second time to manually check the position of the > already existing roads. (since some seem based on gps traces jumping all over > the place.) > We could also wait for GPS traces... I hope they provide them as well. I will wait for more replies today before uploading the initial import. I hope to finish this today so that others can start editing this holy week. Think of it as your penance. :) > Regards, > > Totor > > --- On Tue, 3/30/10, maning sambale wrote: > >> From: maning sambale >> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import >> To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:19 AM >> Alright, I didn't "hear" any >> objections, so I assume the community is >> OK with the road import. We will be adopting Option 3 >> : Pre-process >> data to remove any duplicates from existing OSM data before >> upload. >> >> I will start conflating both data offline (osm and >> arivac). When >> there is duplicate with arivac, OSM data will be >> retained. The >> generic tag for roads are as follows: >> >> FIXME:verify road type >> arivac_ID_ROA_BAS_: some number >> highway:road >> source:arivac >> website:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/ >> >> The donor requested to retain the "arivac_ID_ROA_BAS_: some >> number" so >> that they can integrate our improvements into their own >> database later >> on. >> >> After the import, more work is needed particularly in add >> the correct >> highway category. >> >> I will announce the import later and will proceed if there >> no further >> objections. >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Totor >> wrote: >> > Hello all, >> > >> > Great data as far as it can be checked. >> > (there are not that many gps traces in Tagbilaran with >> a good dop) >> > The maximum offset to my gps tracks is around 5m >> > >> > Some intersections look a bit weird (4 roads join 2 by >> 2, then a link joins the 2 nodes instead of 1 common node >> for the 4 segments) but that can be fixed easily later on. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Totor > > > > > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
I think option 3 is the best indeed, so that we will not lose the existing road classification. Would it be a big job to also create an osm file with the ways that are not imported ? This would allow in a second time to manually check the position of the already existing roads. (since some seem based on gps traces jumping all over the place.) We could also wait for GPS traces... Regards, Totor --- On Tue, 3/30/10, maning sambale wrote: > From: maning sambale > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import > To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:19 AM > Alright, I didn't "hear" any > objections, so I assume the community is > OK with the road import. We will be adopting Option 3 > : Pre-process > data to remove any duplicates from existing OSM data before > upload. > > I will start conflating both data offline (osm and > arivac). When > there is duplicate with arivac, OSM data will be > retained. The > generic tag for roads are as follows: > > FIXME:verify road type > arivac_ID_ROA_BAS_: some number > highway:road > source:arivac > website:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/ > > The donor requested to retain the "arivac_ID_ROA_BAS_: some > number" so > that they can integrate our improvements into their own > database later > on. > > After the import, more work is needed particularly in add > the correct > highway category. > > I will announce the import later and will proceed if there > no further > objections. > > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Totor > wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > Great data as far as it can be checked. > > (there are not that many gps traces in Tagbilaran with > a good dop) > > The maximum offset to my gps tracks is around 5m > > > > Some intersections look a bit weird (4 roads join 2 by > 2, then a link joins the 2 nodes instead of 1 common node > for the 4 segments) but that can be fixed easily later on. > > > > Regards, > > > > Totor ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
Alright, I didn't "hear" any objections, so I assume the community is OK with the road import. We will be adopting Option 3 : Pre-process data to remove any duplicates from existing OSM data before upload. I will start conflating both data offline (osm and arivac). When there is duplicate with arivac, OSM data will be retained. The generic tag for roads are as follows: FIXME:verify road type arivac_ID_ROA_BAS_: some number highway:road source:arivac website:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/ The donor requested to retain the "arivac_ID_ROA_BAS_: some number" so that they can integrate our improvements into their own database later on. After the import, more work is needed particularly in add the correct highway category. I will announce the import later and will proceed if there no further objections. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Totor wrote: > Hello all, > > Great data as far as it can be checked. > (there are not that many gps traces in Tagbilaran with a good dop) > The maximum offset to my gps tracks is around 5m > > Some intersections look a bit weird (4 roads join 2 by 2, then a link joins > the 2 nodes instead of 1 common node for the 4 segments) but that can be > fixed easily later on. > > Regards, > > Totor > > > > > --- On Mon, 3/29/10, maning sambale wrote: > >> From: maning sambale >> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import >> To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 10:33 AM >> For the roads, here's a test OSM file >> for everyone to review: >> >> http://esambale.wikispaces.com/file/detail/road_basic_test.osm.zip >> >> PLEASE DO NOT UPLOAD TO OSM DATABASE! >> >> This is just a test file. Please comment. >> > > > > > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
Andre, I suggest you wait. We are almost done with the translation (banging my head with the python script!) and waiting for comments from the data holder. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner wrote: > Looking at my data I have a lot of POIs not in OSM, do you guys want me > to upload those now, or wait for the arivac POI's ? > > Andre > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
Looking at my data I have a lot of POIs not in OSM, do you guys want me to upload those now, or wait for the arivac POI's ? Andre ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
ok had a look, I dont have that much tracks in Tagbilaran but those roads match my GPS tracks, compared to the actual roads in OSM which are a bit off. So so far looks good. Looks like arivac has a lot more road data than OSM so it shouldnt be hard to preprocess it. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
ah i have some stuff here, let me see if I can compare my tracks and waypoints I recorded last year :) never uploaded it hehe ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] FEATI Workshop is OSM's Image of the Week!
nice! :) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Philippine representative to SOTM 2010
Hi guys, It's almost quite sure that SOTM will be having the scholarship program again so I guess we need to decide among ourselves who will go to Spain to represent and present about the Philippine OSM community. Just like last year, my vote goes to Maning and my second vote is for Marloue. :-) Eugene (osm:seav) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Maning's daily updates of osmphil_garmin maps gets us contributors!
Hi guys, Maning had a hunch that we are getting more contributions to OSM ever since he started the daily Garmin map updates. Well, I found the proof that this is so: http://tsikot.yehey.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1427010&postcount=59 I started contributing to osm ph last week. Natuwa ako kasi it's web based > ang pag edit ng map, at hindi ko na kelangan mag upload. And after 2 days > nasa latest release na agad yung ginawa ko. Last update kahapon, Feb 26. > :-D Eugene (osm:seav) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
Hello all, Great data as far as it can be checked. (there are not that many gps traces in Tagbilaran with a good dop) The maximum offset to my gps tracks is around 5m Some intersections look a bit weird (4 roads join 2 by 2, then a link joins the 2 nodes instead of 1 common node for the 4 segments) but that can be fixed easily later on. Regards, Totor --- On Mon, 3/29/10, maning sambale wrote: > From: maning sambale > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import > To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 10:33 AM > For the roads, here's a test OSM file > for everyone to review: > > http://esambale.wikispaces.com/file/detail/road_basic_test.osm.zip > > PLEASE DO NOT UPLOAD TO OSM DATABASE! > > This is just a test file. Please comment. > ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
For the roads, here's a test OSM file for everyone to review: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/file/detail/road_basic_test.osm.zip PLEASE DO NOT UPLOAD TO OSM DATABASE! This is just a test file. Please comment. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:42 PM, maning sambale wrote: > I updated the page for the progress: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import_Arivac_Bohol > > So far, we have the basic road data in shapefile. We (totor and me) > translated the POI codes into OSM tags (link to the Google spreadsheet > in the wiki). Please correct and wikify the codes. > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Jim Morgan wrote: >> maning sambale wrote, On Saturday, 27 March, 2010 11:42 AM: >>> For comments: >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import_Arivac_Bohol >> >> Sounds good. I'd be glad to help out. As the amount of data currently in the >> area is negligable, and the amount to be imported is huge, maybe the best >> plan would be to keep a copy of what's there, and then just replace it >> wholesale. >> >> Then a few of us could assign ourselves areas, and manually re-add the old >> tags to the new data. >> >> Then we could recruit the help of locals to tag the road names and types, >> and any other features. This is a lot easier when the roads are already in >> place. >> >> But then again, I haven't really been involved in a mass-import before, so >> there's probably a few problems with that idea. If so, I'd go for the >> pre-processing idea. >> >> Jim >> >> >> -- >> datalude: information security >> e: j...@datalude.com >> Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 920 912 5830 >> Hong Kong: +852 6840 6693 >> w: http://www.datalude.com/ >> >> ___ >> talk-ph mailing list >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >> > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
I updated the page for the progress: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import_Arivac_Bohol So far, we have the basic road data in shapefile. We (totor and me) translated the POI codes into OSM tags (link to the Google spreadsheet in the wiki). Please correct and wikify the codes. On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Jim Morgan wrote: > maning sambale wrote, On Saturday, 27 March, 2010 11:42 AM: >> For comments: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import_Arivac_Bohol > > Sounds good. I'd be glad to help out. As the amount of data currently in the > area is negligable, and the amount to be imported is huge, maybe the best > plan would be to keep a copy of what's there, and then just replace it > wholesale. > > Then a few of us could assign ourselves areas, and manually re-add the old > tags to the new data. > > Then we could recruit the help of locals to tag the road names and types, and > any other features. This is a lot easier when the roads are already in place. > > But then again, I haven't really been involved in a mass-import before, so > there's probably a few problems with that idea. If so, I'd go for the > pre-processing idea. > > Jim > > > -- > datalude: information security > e: j...@datalude.com > Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 920 912 5830 > Hong Kong: +852 6840 6693 > w: http://www.datalude.com/ > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
