[talk-ph] no uturn on a dual-carriageway, how?

2010-06-17 Thread maning sambale
This spot:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=14.589184mlon=121.071306zoom=18layers=B000FTF

allows you to take left and right turns but not u-turns

According to this document,
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turn_restrictions

relation turn restrictions should have 3 members (from, to, via)  But
this spot should have 5 members (3 ways and 2 via nodes).

What is the correct relation membership for this case?
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Re: [talk-ph] better ways to coordinate coastline mapping?

2010-06-17 Thread maning sambale
UPDATE. Only two islands from the top ten need some coasty coastline love.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Coastline_Corrections

Anyone working on Negros and Mainland Mindanao?

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:49 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 yes, please do add those roads

 make sure to add
 source:Landsat

 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote:
 hehehe thanks!  just too careful not to mess things up.

  btw, while I was doing the edits, I can see what looks like main roads on
 the landsat image ... can I assume they are indeed roads showing on landsat?


 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:26 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Relax.

 Those are coastline nodes with tags. The tags are:
 created_by:srtm_coastline
 natural:coastline
 note: Original way #418062
 source:SRTM

 natural:coastline should be given tags in ways and not nodes.  You can
 delete them.



 On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:19 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Help!   as I was going around Mindoro doing coastline edits, I
  encountered
  unfamiliar nodes just about south of Mamburao.  The nodes appear as
  big
  white squares in JOSM, different from the usual small yellow square
  nodes.
  What are they?  Did not want to touch them as they are not the usual
  nodes
  like the others.
 
 
  On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 3:05 PM, maning sambale
  emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote:
   maning sambale wrote, On Thursday, 03 June, 2010 06:22 PM:
   FYI, I also finished Bohol and Panay.  I am starting Samar Island
   (offline for the moment in order not to break anything).
  
   Hah. I went to finish off Bohol myself a few days ago and saw you'd
   already done it.
  Don't we have more islands to conquer. :)
  FYI, I have de-quantized Samar mainland.
  http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4897757
 
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Re: [talk-ph] GPS on a Vespa PX150 (Fwd: talk-ph post from carlos.tir...@gmail.com requires approval)

2010-06-17 Thread Carlos Tirona
Oops. Sorry. Thanks for the heads up, Maning! 


On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:51 AM, maning sambale wrote:

 @ carlos, we have limited space for messages in the talk-ph list.
 Forwarding your message to the list.  I like the old looks of vespa.
 :)
 
 Subject: GPS on a Vespa PX150
 Just want to share:
 
 Installed my Garmin to the Vespa PX150e for our ride to Mt. Data over
 the long weekend. We didn't make it to Mt. Data because of a landslide
 so we stayed put at La Union. On the way back, lost the pack several
 times and had to rely on my GPS. Good thing I hadn't reset all the
 trip data and still had my traces to follow back. Would've been a
 different story if we were allowed on NLEX, but with a 150cc engine,
 your only choice was to take the back roads.
 
 Have traces and some POIs to share. I just have to figure out how to
 clean up my data and how to upload it. Hoping I can still add some
 useful information to the database.
 
 When's the newbie tutorial? Game na!
 
 
 
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Re: [talk-ph] no uturn on a dual-carriageway, how?

2010-06-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
There should be one via: the bit of road connecting the to and from. So
Lanuza should be split here. No need to add nodes as via.


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:07 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 This spot:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=14.589184mlon=121.071306zoom=18layers=B000FTF

 allows you to take left and right turns but not u-turns

 According to this document,
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turn_restrictions

 relation turn restrictions should have 3 members (from, to, via)  But
 this spot should have 5 members (3 ways and 2 via nodes).

 What is the correct relation membership for this case?
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Re: [talk-ph] no uturn on a dual-carriageway, how?

2010-06-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Maning, BTW, only_left_turn means just that: you can only turn left from the
from road. Which means that you can't even go straight! So the two
only_left_turn relations at the Lanuza-Ortigas intersection is wrong.


On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote:

 There should be one via: the bit of road connecting the to and from. So
 Lanuza should be split here. No need to add nodes as via.



 On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:07 PM, maning sambale 
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:

 This spot:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=14.589184mlon=121.071306zoom=18layers=B000FTF

 allows you to take left and right turns but not u-turns

 According to this document,
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Turn_restrictions

 relation turn restrictions should have 3 members (from, to, via)  But
 this spot should have 5 members (3 ways and 2 via nodes).

 What is the correct relation membership for this case?
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Re: [talk-ph] Help

2010-06-17 Thread Bart Bartolome
I should say weekly in my case, but most of the time I update if I am 
going out the next day.  I also update when I've made any changes.

On Wednesday, 16 June, 2010 10:29 AM, maning sambale wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Eugene Alvin Villarsea...@gmail.com  wrote:
 You should expect this update in the Garmin map in about 2 days. :-)

 Out of curiosity, how frequent do osm-ph garmin users update their maps?
 a. daily
 b. weekly
 c. monthly
 d. not at all, I'm satisfied with the data six months ago
 e. I download the new map, whenever my device detects a free wifi. :0






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Re: [talk-ph] Ortigas Avenue ext, Cainta map errors

2010-06-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I think Rally can make sense of this since he probably passes by this area
fairly frequently.

:-)

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:27 PM, tutubi
tut...@backpackingphilippines.comwrote:

 hi all,

 been testing routing in Cainta and noticed errors...

 Ortigas Avenue extension, from the foot of Rosario Bridge to the foot of
 another small bridge (between Ever and Junction) doesn't have a center
 island. This affects routing from Junction if you're turning left to
 Countryside or De Castro.

 the endpoints of the no center island of Ortigas avenue extension:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.58695lon=121.11705zoom=17
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.58695lon=121.11705zoom=17

 turn restrictions (can't do this in Potlatch)
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.58695lon=121.11705zoom=17

 At the Junction, Ortigas Avenue corner Felix Avenue and Bonifacio Avenue,
 there are turn restrictions if you're on Ortigas Avenue. You are only
 allowed to turn left to Felix for Ortigas eastbound and Bonifacio for
 westbound. There is a U-turn slot for your use on Ortigas Avenue (for
 eastbound, it's a few meters from Junction, for westbound to eastbound, at
 the foot of the bridge which is quite far from the Junction...no tracks for
 this one, i only noted their locations mentally

 my latest trace from Midtown Sudb via Countryside avenue to Brookside Hills
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/backpacking%20philippines/traces/740241

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