Re: [talk-ph] Want more aerial imagery? Why not do it yourself?

2010-06-26 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
The guys in the vimeo link I posted used GPS tracking. I don't know exactly
how, but it seems that the package transmits GPS coordinates somehow and
they used it to track where the package fell.

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.comwrote:

  maning, question... how are you going to retrieve at least the camera
 attached to the balloon?



 -Original Message-
 From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 6/26/2010 1:41:17 PM
 To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Want more aerial imagery? Why not do it yourself?
 
 Cool!
 
 I have a similar balloon mapping ideas in my mind for the last two
 months already.
 I hacked my canon cam with chdk for this.
 Tried some experiments with kites but they were too unstable.
 
 I'm actually looking for cheap weather balloons and a helium tank to
 test my rig.
 Any tips where to buy cheap balloons and borrow a portable aluminum helium
 tank?
 
 On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  http://vimeo.com/12421661
 
 
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Re: [talk-ph] Want more aerial imagery? Why not do it yourself?

2010-06-26 Thread maning sambale
@murlwe,

my plan is not to release the balloon.  I want it on low altitudes as
far as my string and helium can support.

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
 The guys in the vimeo link I posted used GPS tracking. I don't know exactly
 how, but it seems that the package transmits GPS coordinates somehow and
 they used it to track where the package fell.

 On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com
 wrote:

 maning, question... how are you going to retrieve at least the camera
 attached to the balloon?


 -Original Message-
 From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 6/26/2010 1:41:17 PM
 To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Want more aerial imagery? Why not do it yourself?
 
 Cool!
 
 I have a similar balloon mapping ideas in my mind for the last two
 months already.
 I hacked my canon cam with chdk for this.
 Tried some experiments with kites but they were too unstable.
 
 I'm actually looking for cheap weather balloons and a helium tank to
 test my rig.
 Any tips where to buy cheap balloons and borrow a portable aluminum
  helium tank?
 
 On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  http://vimeo.com/12421661
 
 
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Re: [talk-ph] Want more aerial imagery? Why not do it yourself?

2010-06-26 Thread Marloue Pidor
Oi, tama pwede pala ganyan di ko naisip... simple pa. You have similar
project with Eugene pala.

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From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com]
Sent: 6/26/2010 4:15:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Want more aerial imagery? Why not do it
yourself?

@murlwe,

my plan is not to release the balloon. I want it on low altitudes as
far as my string and helium can support.

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
wrote:
 The guys in the vimeo link I posted used GPS tracking. I don't know
exactly
 how, but it seems that the package transmits GPS coordinates somehow
and
 they used it to track where the package fell.

 On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Marloue Pidor
mur...@mail2engineer.com
 wrote:

 maning, question... how are you going to retrieve at least the
camera
 attached to the balloon?


 -Original Message-
 From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com]
 Sent: 6/26/2010 1:41:17 PM
 To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Want more aerial imagery? Why not do it
yourself?
 
 Cool!
 
 I have a similar balloon mapping ideas in my mind for the last two
 months already.
 I hacked my canon cam with chdk for this.
 Tried some experiments with kites but they were too unstable.
 
 I'm actually looking for cheap weather balloons and a helium tank
to
 test my rig.
 Any tips where to buy cheap balloons and borrow a portable aluminum
  helium tank?
 
 On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar
sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  http://vimeo.com/12421661
 
 
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Re: [talk-ph] Want more aerial imagery? Why not do it yourself?

2010-06-26 Thread Ronny Ager-Wick

I love this type of projects!
The problem I can imagine with having it on a string is:
- the string gets quite heavy when it's a few hundred meters up in the 
air, not to mention 1 few km.

- if the string snaps, what then?
- the string may be visible on the photos
- all the overhead cables! (could work in far away places in the barrio 
though)


If we could use something like this:
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/gps-cellphone-wrist-watch/
it could send us coordinates (and altitude) by sms. And maybe could log 
as well to geocode the imagery :)
If we could hook it up to a computer as well (you can probably get 
something similar to Commodore 64 the size of a button now), hooked up 
to a valve for the helium baloon, then we could program it to release 
some helium when it reaches a certain altitude, until it stabilizes. Add 
a propeller for thrust and another for steering, and you can program it 
to fly forth and back (navigating using GPS coordinates) until it has 
covered the area you want to cover. Then, preferably before the battery 
or fuel for the propeller runs out, it can pre programmed to deflate the 
helium baloon and attempt to return to base :)


Sounds like an expensive toy, but we could cover all of the Philippines 
with that!
(except around major airports and above Malacañang and military areas - 
probably not very popular!)


Ronny.

maning sambale wrote:

@murlwe,

my plan is not to release the balloon.  I want it on low altitudes as
far as my string and helium can support.

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
  

The guys in the vimeo link I posted used GPS tracking. I don't know exactly
how, but it seems that the package transmits GPS coordinates somehow and
they used it to track where the package fell.

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com
wrote:


maning, question... how are you going to retrieve at least the camera
attached to the balloon?


-Original Message-
  

From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com]
Sent: 6/26/2010 1:41:17 PM
To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Want more aerial imagery? Why not do it yourself?

Cool!

I have a similar balloon mapping ideas in my mind for the last two
months already.
I hacked my canon cam with chdk for this.
Tried some experiments with kites but they were too unstable.

I'm actually looking for cheap weather balloons and a helium tank to
test my rig.
Any tips where to buy cheap balloons and borrow a portable aluminum
helium tank?

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
wrote:


http://vimeo.com/12421661


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Re: [talk-ph] Want more aerial imagery? Why not do it yourself?

2010-06-26 Thread Ronny Ager-Wick

I guess this is a good start:
http://www.picotux.com/
Ideally I'd like a bit more RAM and an interface to some flash memory, 
but at least it's *much* more powerful than a C64!


Or this one:
http://www.shimafuji.co.jp/product/spacecube01.html
http://www.handlewithlinux.com/smallest-linux-pc
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2008/08/27/a-real-space-oddity-arrives-at-pc-pro/


Ronny Ager-Wick wrote:

I love this type of projects!
The problem I can imagine with having it on a string is:
- the string gets quite heavy when it's a few hundred meters up in the 
air, not to mention 1 few km.

- if the string snaps, what then?
- the string may be visible on the photos
- all the overhead cables! (could work in far away places in the 
barrio though)


If we could use something like this:
http://www.chinavasion.com/product_info.php/pName/gps-cellphone-wrist-watch/
it could send us coordinates (and altitude) by sms. And maybe could 
log as well to geocode the imagery :)
If we could hook it up to a computer as well (you can probably get 
something similar to Commodore 64 the size of a button now), hooked up 
to a valve for the helium baloon, then we could program it to release 
some helium when it reaches a certain altitude, until it stabilizes. 
Add a propeller for thrust and another for steering, and you can 
program it to fly forth and back (navigating using GPS coordinates) 
until it has covered the area you want to cover. Then, preferably 
before the battery or fuel for the propeller runs out, it can pre 
programmed to deflate the helium baloon and attempt to return to base :)


Sounds like an expensive toy, but we could cover all of the 
Philippines with that!
(except around major airports and above Malacañang and military areas 
- probably not very popular!)


Ronny.

maning sambale wrote:

@murlwe,

my plan is not to release the balloon.  I want it on low altitudes as
far as my string and helium can support.

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
  

The guys in the vimeo link I posted used GPS tracking. I don't know exactly
how, but it seems that the package transmits GPS coordinates somehow and
they used it to track where the package fell.

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com
wrote:


maning, question... how are you going to retrieve at least the camera
attached to the balloon?


-Original Message-
  

From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com]
Sent: 6/26/2010 1:41:17 PM
To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Want more aerial imagery? Why not do it yourself?

Cool!

I have a similar balloon mapping ideas in my mind for the last two
months already.
I hacked my canon cam with chdk for this.
Tried some experiments with kites but they were too unstable.

I'm actually looking for cheap weather balloons and a helium tank to
test my rig.
Any tips where to buy cheap balloons and borrow a portable aluminum
helium tank?

On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
wrote:


http://vimeo.com/12421661


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