Re: [talk-ph] railway being shadowed by trunk highway on mapnik

2010-12-31 Thread Jim Morgan
Happy New Year! 

Ed Garcia wrote, On Friday, 31 December, 2010 08:14 PM:
> Is there a way to make mapnik display the railway "over" the highway so it 
> does not disappear?

Isn't that what the layer= tag does? 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Layer

Although it goes on to warn: "Some people also use the layer tag to "fix" 
render issues. This is not an appropriate use. If a renderer is broken, then 
you are better off to open a ticket in trac [1], so somebody can start working 
on a real fix. "

Jim

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[talk-ph] Happy 2011 Everyone!

2010-12-31 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
May 2011 be filled with wonderful mapping and may the map of the
Philippines be more complete and up-to-date than ever before!

Keep up the good work everyone!

Cheers!!!

P.S. I'm celebrating the arrival of the new year by doing some
armchair mapping. :-P

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Re: [talk-ph] railway being shadowed by trunk highway on mapnik

2010-12-31 Thread Ed Garcia
Hi Eugene,

True, no big problem actually ... It just feels more logical to have
railways "persist" throughout the zoom levels rather than have them
disappear when zoomed out.  For one thing, railways are usually long
distance ways and should actually be seen as they link towns, cities and
provinces.

Cosmetics, yes, but it is also funny to see railways that seem to "cross
under" highways like here:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.931381&lon=121.404455&zoom=18&layers=M

no priority demanded here ... just a "nice to have:.

Happy New Year everyone!  I am mapping till midnight so I can say I have
been mapping for one year from 2010 to 2011!  hahaha

:>) ed

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:

> Hi Ed,
>
> Yes, there is a way. The ones who maintain the Mapnik style rendering
> rules just need to set the layering and prioritization rules for
> railways vs. highways.
>
> The question is, is this something that they will be willing to
> change? Admittedly, drawing railways on top of highways is simply a
> cosmetic difference and does not really affect anything critical. We
> can make a suggestion, but I'm not sure they might consider changing
> it given that there are a lot of other bugs and problems in the Mapnik
> rendering.
>
> I hope I've answered your question. :-)
>
> Eugene
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Ed Garcia  wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I was looking at the Malolos Bulacan area and noticed that, at wide zoom
> > levels,  the railway running along Mcarthur highway disappears and only
> the
> > highway is shown.
> >
> > please see
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.8419&lon=120.8506&zoom=14&layers=M
> >
> > For a moment there, I thought that the railway was not yet traced in that
> > area of the map and so I set out to plot it in JOSM.  But in JOSM the
> > railway was already there!  And I found out that it is actually showing
> in
> > Osmarender layer.  Apparently, this is just a behaviour of Mapnik.
> >
> > please see
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.8419&lon=120.8506&zoom=14&layers=O
> >
> > Is there a way to make mapnik display the railway "over" the highway so
> it
> > does not disappear?
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [talk-ph] railway being shadowed by trunk highway on mapnik

2010-12-31 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi Ed,

Yes, there is a way. The ones who maintain the Mapnik style rendering
rules just need to set the layering and prioritization rules for
railways vs. highways.

The question is, is this something that they will be willing to
change? Admittedly, drawing railways on top of highways is simply a
cosmetic difference and does not really affect anything critical. We
can make a suggestion, but I'm not sure they might consider changing
it given that there are a lot of other bugs and problems in the Mapnik
rendering.

I hope I've answered your question. :-)

Eugene


On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 8:14 PM, Ed Garcia  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I was looking at the Malolos Bulacan area and noticed that, at wide zoom
> levels,  the railway running along Mcarthur highway disappears and only the
> highway is shown.
>
> please see
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.8419&lon=120.8506&zoom=14&layers=M
>
> For a moment there, I thought that the railway was not yet traced in that
> area of the map and so I set out to plot it in JOSM.  But in JOSM the
> railway was already there!  And I found out that it is actually showing in
> Osmarender layer.  Apparently, this is just a behaviour of Mapnik.
>
> please see
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.8419&lon=120.8506&zoom=14&layers=O
>
> Is there a way to make mapnik display the railway "over" the highway so it
> does not disappear?
>
>
>
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[talk-ph] railway being shadowed by trunk highway on mapnik

2010-12-31 Thread Ed Garcia
Hello,

I was looking at the Malolos Bulacan area and noticed that, at wide zoom
levels,  the railway running along Mcarthur highway disappears and only the
highway is shown.

please see
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.8419&lon=120.8506&zoom=14&layers=M

For a moment there, I thought that the railway was not yet traced in that
area of the map and so I set out to plot it in JOSM.  But in JOSM the
railway was already there!  And I found out that it is actually showing in
Osmarender layer.  Apparently, this is just a behaviour of Mapnik.

please see
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.8419&lon=120.8506&zoom=14&layers=O

Is there a way to make mapnik display the railway "over" the highway so it
does not disappear?



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