Dear everyone, As a follow-up on this discussion. ESSC in partnership with the Humanitarian OSM Team, OSM Indonesia and WB will kickstart this idea.
The general plan is: 1. Develop a trainors training manual by consolidating existing materials and experiences from previous training activities in teh Philippines and Indonesia. 2. Run a TOT workshop for groups and individual interested to be a an OSM trainor/facilitator. More details soon. Of course, we invite the whole community to participate both in the development of the materials and the test run itself. Resources are limited for the test run training so if there a groups interested to pool in resources do let us know. Timeline: May-June 2014. More ideas welcome. On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Maning et al, > > The American Red Cross would love to partner with OSM-PH on any trainings we > develop and conduct. We've done OSM trainings before elsewhere and have some > materials and approaches that we can pull across to the Philippines. If > anything the Philippines is easier because English fluency is much higher > than many places we go. > > We're on the verge of submitting our formal plan to get this done and then > we'll be working out the resourcing, so it could be some months. > > One thing we try to do within the Red Cross is connect OSM to projects or > activities that National Societies do on a regular basis. This helps ensure > that the training gets used. We need to talk with the Philippines Red Cross > and identify some high-value use cases that we can plug OSM into. Dale might > be able to contribute more thoughts on that. > > Cheers, > Robert > > > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:41 AM, maning sambale <emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Dear everyone, >> >> Great discussion! >> >> First, coming from a 4-day road trip from Leyte and Samar for our >> internal assessment ~3 months after Yolanda, remote training is not >> really the best option. >> In many areas, 3g connection is non-existent so, we need to find ways >> on how to do on site training under these conditions especially for >> LGUs interested to use OSM. >> >> Let me try to summarize the action points. From the thread I see the >> following activites we need to do. >> >> 1. Create a suite of materials for promotion and lightning talks about >> OSM. This will be used as basic intro to OSM, whenever a group >> invites us to speak. >> I created a stub github repo for this [0]. Feel free to add slides, >> brochures and whatever materials you think is useful. >> >> 2. Design a training/workshop package which OSM trainors can use. >> Possible content/module can be: >> - Basic overview to OSM >> - Basic data collection and editing workflow >> - Specific modules on using OSM depending on use cases (i.e. LGU, >> NGO, DRR, etc.) >> >> We (essc) have already developed an initial training design and >> materials for our Pampanga project. We can use this as an initial >> draft of the modules. >> We also have learnosm.org as another resource. A major topic >> mentioned here is how to collect data using smartphones, maybe this >> will be one major content we need develop. >> >> HOT-Id have more experience in doing OSM trainings, perhaps we can do >> knowledge sharing with them as we develop the design and content? >> @Kate, how can we do this? What resources is needed? >> >> American Red Cross is also planning to do OSM trainings. @Robert, any >> possibilities on developing this together with OSM-PH? >> >> 3. Run a trainors training/workshop to interested OSM trainors. >> >> 4. Design a communication protocol to remotely support either the >> local trainors or the participants after the conduct of training >> (options mentioned are skype, mumble, teamviewer). Or do follow-up >> visits if possible? >> >> Sounds like a plan! Please add anything I missed. >> >> [0] https://github.com/OSMPH/promo_materials >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Mark Cupitt <markcup...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Kate, I think that once the relationship has been built, that followup >> > using tools like TeamViewer is very practical. That app has a some great >> > features, including group sessions, and is free for non commercial use, nd >> > I >> > am sure there is other alternatives out there just as good.. We have used >> > Teamviewer as a training and support aid over the past year, but generally >> > after face to face sessions are done. being able to put a face to the >> > person >> > on the other end of a remote session is still important IMHO >> > >> > This leads into the next obvious step where the trainer becomes the >> > Mentor to a group of people. In the HOT environment, this person could >> > become the verifier for work done by his group, etc as the connection >> > between individuals has already been made and feedback on standards for >> > tagging can be easily communicated >> > >> > Cheers >> > Mark >> > >> > >> > >> > Regards >> > >> > Mark Cupitt >> > >> > "If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence" >> > >> > See me on LinkedIn >> > >> > See me on StackExchange >> > >> > >> > =============================================================================================== >> > The contents of this email are intended only for the individual(s) to >> > whom it is addressed and may contain >> > confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended >> > recipient, you must not disclose, copy, distribute, >> > or use the contents of this email. If you have received this email in >> > error, please notify the sender immediately and >> > delete the email and any attachments. >> > >> > =============================================================================================== >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Kate Chapman <k...@maploser.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi All, >> >> >> >> We have faced similar challenged in Indonesia. Typically with our >> >> trainings someone runs the powerpoint and talks at the front but then >> >> we have other trainers around the trainees looking for problems and >> >> providing help. There are also times we break into small groups. The >> >> small groups can sometimes be limited by the lack of a way to show >> >> everyone the instructors screen though. Typically we try to use two >> >> projectors (I know a luxury) one shows the slides on the topic and the >> >> other walks people through what to actual click. >> >> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Jim Morgan <j...@datalude.com> wrote: >> >> > On 01/31/2014 09:18 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Also, I've noticed that Filipinos generally prefer face-to-face >> >> >> interaction. I've seen countless times where you ask the audience if >> >> >> they >> >> >> have any questions and nobody would raise their hands. But after the >> >> >> lecture >> >> >> is over, a few people would approach the lecturer and then ask >> >> >> questions. >> >> >> This kind of interaction would be hard to do online. >> >> > >> >> > Point taken about the reticence of audiences here. I've held a few >> >> > meetings >> >> > here myself where its really hard to get input ... which has been the >> >> > whole >> >> > purpose of the meeting! But I think the group chat might actually >> >> > encourage >> >> > this. People actually seem to get braver when they're not putting >> >> > their hand >> >> > up in a roomful of people. Basically as the presenter is >> >> > demonstrating >> >> > something, questions appear in the group chat, and the presenter can >> >> > address >> >> > them when its convenient. It actually seems to work quite well. There >> >> > are >> >> > also options to send private messages by email which can be addressed >> >> > in the >> >> > Q&A session. >> >> >> >> How do you think doing remote training where an in person connection >> >> has already been made? For example if participants had taken part in a >> >> one or two day beginner class, but then could remotely receive >> >> follow-up training? Perhaps having the initial face to face would >> >> help. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> -Kate >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Anyway, just something to consider, and I'm just bouncing the idea >> >> > around. >> >> > >> >> > Jim >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > talk-ph mailing list >> >> > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> talk-ph mailing list >> >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > talk-ph mailing list >> > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> cheers, >> maning >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk-ph mailing list >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > -- cheers, maning ------------------------------------------------------ "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ ------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
