Re: [talk-ph] OSMPH chatroom

[Erwin Olario]

Let us learn from each other ;). Thank you for the invite, Rally.

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On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Rally de Leon  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> I would like to invite you to OSMPH chatroom osmph.slack.com
> This is meant to replace our earlier experimental Discord.
>
> It is open to public and you can invite yourself using your email at:
> http://is.gd/osmphchat
>
> How is this different?
>
> It is currently (relatively) unstructured - like we don't know what it is
> yet or what it will be.
>
> It can become your local quick source mapping tips and Q Easily search
> for previous discussions, since it is searchable. It is linked to our osmph
> event's google calendar. It has an anonymous channel, etc.
>
> Here, it's like having many small cubicles for small talks about any
> particular mapping interests. Shy and low-profile members can
> simultaneously talk and ask questions freely among their same-interest
> sub-groups in separate channels, without worrying about interrupting any
> hotter or more important issues on the general discussion table.
>
> Discuss wider range of topics from seemingly irrelevant to newbie's
> frequently ask questions, to more technical discourse, do skill-sharing,
> share an idea, or plan workshops and mapping parties, or have simple
> chit-chats.
>
> Your guidelines:
> Post in English, Filipino or Taglish, as long as you don't use a lot of
> "po" and "opo," (kasi nakaka-feeling matanda "poh" yan sa ilang tao dito)
> 
>
> The other suggested chatroom rule is simple: "don't be a jerk." Orayt? ;-)
>
> BTW, you can also introduce some words from local dialect in the interest
> of teaching the community some terminologies you are accustomed with, to
> understand local cultures, to bridge the communications gaps, to improve
> objects/words translations, all that may be relevant to mapping.
>
> We are inclusive. Let us learn from you.
>
> Let's see how it goes. See you there.
>
> Rally :-)
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[talk-ph] OSMPH chatroom

[Rally de Leon]

Dear all,

I would like to invite you to OSMPH chatroom osmph.slack.com
This is meant to replace our earlier experimental Discord.

It is open to public and you can invite yourself using your email at:
http://is.gd/osmphchat

How is this different?

It is currently (relatively) unstructured - like we don't know what it is
yet or what it will be.

It can become your local quick source mapping tips and Q Easily search
for previous discussions, since it is searchable. It is linked to our osmph
event's google calendar. It has an anonymous channel, etc.

Here, it's like having many small cubicles for small talks about any
particular mapping interests. Shy and low-profile members can
simultaneously talk and ask questions freely among their same-interest
sub-groups in separate channels, without worrying about interrupting any
hotter or more important issues on the general discussion table.

Discuss wider range of topics from seemingly irrelevant to newbie's
frequently ask questions, to more technical discourse, do skill-sharing,
share an idea, or plan workshops and mapping parties, or have simple
chit-chats.

Your guidelines:
Post in English, Filipino or Taglish, as long as you don't use a lot of
"po" and "opo," (kasi nakaka-feeling matanda "poh" yan sa ilang tao dito)


The other suggested chatroom rule is simple: "don't be a jerk." Orayt? ;-)

BTW, you can also introduce some words from local dialect in the interest
of teaching the community some terminologies you are accustomed with, to
understand local cultures, to bridge the communications gaps, to improve
objects/words translations, all that may be relevant to mapping.

We are inclusive. Let us learn from you.

Let's see how it goes. See you there.

Rally :-)
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Re: [talk-ph] 7500 and counting.

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

According to the latest news, there are now "exactly" 7,641 islands. This
is stated by the so-called Philippine Islands Measurements Project of
NAMRIA. (Really unfortunate acronym: PIMP. People, when when creating
multi-word names, make sure that the acronym is palatable!)

http://cnnphilippines.com/videos/2016/02/20/More-islands-more-fun-in-PH.html

I have previously e-mailed NAMRIA to get info on how they keep track of
islands and how the most often quoted figure of 7,107 islands was derived.
Predictably I didn't get any definitive answer.

Afterwards, I discovered the 1939 Census Atlas of the Philippines which
listed in glorious detail exactly 7,100 islands, including name (if there
is one), land area, municipality/city, and coordinates (no datum was given
but it is presumably the Luzon Datum of 1911). I assume that this is the
mother of all Philippine islands list. An additional 7 islands were
probably added later on (Spratlys maybe?) but I have no information on who
or what those 7 islands are.

I was able to take photos of the list in the Census Atlas and initiated a
crowd-sourced project to digitize this list. Phase 1 was completed last
year and Phase 2 is currently on hold:

https://hackpad.com/1939-Census-Atlas-of-the-Philippines-7100-Islands-Encoding-Project-FhYXjmZ2rAw

Maning did a straight plot of those 7,100 islands assuming WGS84 datum
(which has around 90m difference from Luzon datum):

https://gist.github.com/maning/ef01a174c7160280dcee

Based on the map and even taking into account the datum difference, I now
have serious doubts on the accuracy of the Census Atlas list. Some islands
were located in the Pacific, outside the Philippines' baselines!

Because of that, I now have serious doubts on the accuracy of the 7,107
islands total number. This makes me doubt the 7,641 as well unless NAMRIA
can publish their database and tracking methodology.

~Eugene

P.S. I hope that OSM can in the future provide us with a free/open database
all islands of the Philippines.


On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Jim Morgan  wrote:

> MANILA, Philippines -The Philippines is now officially a +7,500 islands
> after the National Mapping and Resource Information Authority discovered
> 400 more islets in a series of mapping research.
>
>
> http://themaharlikan.info/news/breaking-philippines-no-longer-7107-islands-after-discovery-of-400-more-islets/
>
> Jim
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[talk-ph] Reporting a potential vandal (bryanpiczon)

[maning sambale]

Hi,

The OSM-PH community have been monitoring who we suspect as a vandal
using several accounts.  While in the past he mostly edit in the PH,
we feel that the larger community should monitor since he has edited
in other parts of the world.  Most recently, the National Mall in
Washington, DC.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37139218#map=15/38.8883/-77.0313

We strongly believe that this person is a vandal, but would like to
confirm the scale and impact to other parts of the world.

See summary of our notes here:
https://gist.github.com/maning/d76192c4a2cf5ba34c4c

Raw document and some sample cases here:
https://hackpad.com/Bryan-Picson-Z5Px9SzYNQC

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