Re: [talk-ph] Allowed uses of map
>Wayne is actually the one who created the image and he works for >GMANews.TV. The attribution is there but the license details is not. >Personally, I'm quite OK with the neglect of mention of any licensing >or copyright. Like you said, it's pretty doubtful that anyone would >want to reuse this map outside the context of the news article. The >attribution is what matters most for this kind of use. :-) Yes I is unlikely that any OSM or mapnik contributor would seek to enforce Copyright here. Particularly not in the Philippines as long Universal Studios does not enforce Copyright in Quiapo or Makati Cinema square ;) But Wayne might want to be a leading example though and give a due notice, like © OpenStreetMap contributors and GMANews.TV, CC-BY-SA. Also nice is using the icon I attached (you should scale it down of course) Cheers Soeren<>___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Garminasus A50 and Maning's OSM-Gamin-files
>Style details here: >https://github.com/maning/osmphgps/blob/master/styles/default/points#L197 I assume this includes both, the features on the map and those that will be indexed by a Gamin device? In any case, I also tried some OSM-Garmin files from other areas (Europe), and here the index is working properly. Maybe the problem is somewhere else? Btw: Today I packed the PH-map in mapsource with a different .typ files. Quite nice one, it looks like a typical topographic map and includes elevation contour (I attached it) However with that one I have the 'Ondoy-bug' again, where large parts of landmass e.g. in the Laguna area are rendered as water. I remember that we had similar problems in Mapnik and/or Osma a few years back. Any ideas? Also does anyone know how to disable the night view (backgrounds being blackened in the night)? It might be very useful for car navigation, but as a MRT and bicycle rider I would like to keep bright backgrounds in the night. I assumed it was done by the .typ file and I used this tool :[http://ati.land.cz/gps/typdecomp/editor.cgi] to export the typ file with day-colors only, but it did not change anything. >Glad your back :). FYI, Soeren was one of the mappers who started our >great coverage in Makati I am not exactly back, but I was never so far away neither. I am based in Taipei now (a true OSM desert :( OSM-Philippines is far ahead of Taiwan). But I am back in the Philippines quite often, because my family is still there. Cheers Soeren M55_1331.typ Description: Binary data ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] railway being shadowed by trunk highway on mapnik
Hi Ed >"Ed Garcia" wrote >Is there a way to make mapnik display the railway "over" the highway so it >does not disappear? Sure there is. Add to the railroad a layer tag that has a higher value than the layer of the highway. Pathes with no layer tag are layer=0. So in your case make the railway layer=1, and tadaa: there is your railway. If your railway underpasses any bridges, you might need to make abjustments there, e.g. make the bridge layer=2. cheers soeren___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM - JOSM open discussion event this week
Hi all, your efforts to 'recruit' more mappers sound very good. :) I just would like to make one comment: When you talk about "schools", I hope you mean Colleges and Universities rather than Highschools :o I mean you know how kids are at highschool age. I would not like the map to become a social networking platform with many "this is my house"-tags and other silly jokes. Just have a look at Wikimapia ;). But unlike Wikimapia, which in fact IS a "tag everything" page, we want to make a real map. A map needs to be reduced to relevant information in order to stay readable. So whoever we cavass to join us, we should make sure that it is people we can expect to take the project serious. :) Cheers Zoren > Hi, > > Some insights on the OSM/JOSM discussion withh CSB students. > > I prepared a presentation about OSM, OSM Philippines, neat stuff you can > do, and using JOSM. I really want to show the strength of OSM by showing > things you can do with the data like routing, the cyclemap, naga city > buildings, and of course the Metro Manila coverage. > > Thanks to the bunch of "smart" people who organized the event. If we > want to expand OSM Philippines, I believe that schools are a good > starting point. > > To sum it up I'd say the presentation was well sub-optimal. I feel I > was NOT able to deliver it well partly because of me (as the speaker) > and the circumstances around the venue. Since this is the first and > hopefully not the last, I think we can learn much from the experience. > > Some difficulties: > 1. Enzo and Val (the smart people) prepared another presentation about > OSM, the points they discussed somehow "overlapped" with the points I > also want to discuss. However, I particularly like the slides showing > the coverage of OSM zooming into the details on each slide, which I > wasn't able to do because, see next point. > > 1. There was no internet in the auditorium. The talk I prepared was > designed in such a way that we can demonstrate the power of osm through > various web-based apps using OSM data. > > 2. I talked a great deal about OSM as the only option for a good geodata > source for the country in terms of data licensing, quality and access. > It is an important issue and is central to why OSM was created, but, I > don't think this is of particular interest to most students. > > 3. It is particularly difficult to demonstrate JOSM editing on such a > big venue. A smaller group provides better learning experience because > I can easily show keystrokes and shortcut keys as I edit with JOSM. > > Of course we can do better by: > > 1. Throwing participants into the water right away! Make sure there is > an internet connection in the venue. Possibly a computer lab were the > participants can browse the slippymap, register to osm, and start > editing either by potlatch or josm. > > 2. Maybe include activities on how to use GPS and adding data using gps > traces. > > 3. Divide and plan the presentation well enough so we don't "overlap" on > some topics. > > Maybe Enzo and others could add more. > > As I said above, a roadshow to schools and universities is a good way to > expand OSM here. And I thank Enzo, Val, Ian and Paolo for spearheading > this. Even if we can convert just one or two OSM-addict as a result, I > would be very much happy. > > cheers, > maning > > > > On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 18:53 +0800, Enzo Losantas wrote: > > Hello! > > > > We are currently planning to do a simple OSM / JOSM presentation and > > discussion with 3rd yr College students from Lasalle-Benilde, taft > > campus - 2544 Taft Avenue, Manila 1004, this week (Wednesday or > > Thursday tentative). > > > > We are essentially planning to discuss and open this opportunity for > > these students to be aware of openstreetmap, get a feel of trying to > > do mapping edits (through JOSM) and probably entice them to be > > consistent contributors in the future as part of the growing Filipino > > mapping community! > > > > I encourage everyone to take part in this event and maybe contribute > > with a simple talk or a simple presentation in anything related to > > OSM / JOSM. Dont hesitate to contact me through [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > or through this mailing list for further questions. > > > > Sorry for the late notice, but I do hope to hear from you soon! Keep > > in touch! > > > > Thanks! > > Enzo Losantas > > > > ___ > > talk-ph mailing list > > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] access tagging on private subdivisions
Hi all, is "access=Gated_Communities" (as suggested by seav) an officially recognized tag? I did not find it in the reference (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features). It would be nice to have a dedicated tag for the phenomenon of streets in private subs, which are kind of different to a totally private street. However if "access=Gated_Communities" is not recognized by the rendering software (etc.) and thus it will not be reflected in the maps (or routing results), then we should stick to "access=private".(?) So far I updated all of Makati's private subs to "access=private". I realized that I tagged some of the gates "highway=gate" and some "barrier=gate". Does anyone know if there is a diffenrece between the two? Or can we use them interchangibly? (Or more precise: do I need to revise them all and change the highway ones to barrier ?) Since we are just talking about routing/navi software: Does anyone know how i can find out which user contributed a certain set of waypoint (there used to be a visible (C)tag in the Osamrender at highest zoom level, but its not there anymore) I am asking this because I would like to know who did the trunk roads and motorways ,i.e. EDSA and South Superhighway, in order to double check if that user took care about the correct lanes and their connections (especially upper and lower levels of South-Super); or do we need to revise them? These nodes need to be correct for navi systems. Cheers Zoren PS: @ Seav, Nice work at Libis/Eastwood :) > On 11/20/08, Ian Haylock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > private subdivisions are one of my pet hates. I've even been chased out of > > one subdivision by a security guard whilst out mapping with the kids. > > Me too. I almost got bitten by 2 dogs when mapping such areas. > > > I'm up for tagging the roads as private access, but I think routing software > > such as navit will ignore streets that have a hightway=gate tag. > > > > So putting a node this tag on subdivision access roads will achieve the > > same result, but will be less work, and also display a gate on the map to > > show the viewer that the road is not accessible. > > I think I'll do both access and gate. There is also a new tagging > suggesting to use barrier=gate instead of highway=gate. Same thing on > a different key. > > keep on mapping! > > > > Cheers, Ian > > > > --- On Thu, 20/11/08, maning sambale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: maning sambale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: [talk-ph] access tagging on private subdivisions > > To: "talk-ph" > > Date: Thursday, 20 November, 2008, 1:25 AM > > > > Hi, > > > > This was posted in the wikipage: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines#Access_Tagging > > > > Access Tagging > > Since the Philippines is a country where many(!) streets are not > > public, I suggest everyone while mapping should take a note on the > > access status (in order to not loose that information). Private > > Subdivisions (with gate houses and guys with shotguns in front of it) > > cannot be consideres "public accessible", can they? ;) I suggest > > tagging all of then access=private. I will try to implement this > > completely in my upcoming final revision of Makati --Sorabsuperstar > > 11:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC) > > > > Any comments? I think this is a good idea, since it is important for > > routing, and it is particularly a "phenomenon" here. I will add this > > tag around my area. > > > > > > cheers, > > maning > > > > > > -- > > |-|--| > > | __.-._ |"Ohhh. Great warrior. Wars not make one great." -Yoda > > | > > | '-._"7' |"Freedom is still the most radical idea of > > all" -N.Branden| > > | /'.-c |Linux registered user #402901, http://counter.li.org/ | > > | | /T |http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ | > > | _)_/L I http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ | > > |-|--| > > > > ___ > > talk-ph mailing list > > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > > > > > > > > > > -- > |-|--| > | __.-._ |"Ohhh. Great warrior. Wars not make one great." -Yoda | > | '-._"7' |"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden| > | /'.-c |Linux registered user #402901, http://counter.li.org/ | > | | /T |http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ | > | _)_/L I http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ | > |-|--| > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
