Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-04-03 Thread maning sambale
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner
 wrote:
> - Do we remove the arivac tags once we fix it?
I advise not to, although, this is of minimal use when compared to the
original data later on.  Please retain for provenance purposes

> - Do we include St. or street, avenue etc in street names?
As per agreed PH practices, Street or St is not necessary.  But Road
or Avenue is OK.

> - Are the POIs imported properly, looking over all my POI's while mine
> are not totally accurate, there seems to be a general offset from my
> POIs to the Arrivac POIs, so I'm not sure which is correct
> see my trace and POIs http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kzap/traces/657452
>From what I know, they used Magellan Triton (SIRF Star III chipset).
But it all depends on how you collect data.  If you feel your data is
more accurate, please adjust them.

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[talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-31 Thread Andre Marcelo-Tanner
- Do we remove the arivac tags once we fix it?
- Do we include St. or street, avenue etc in street names?
- Are the POIs imported properly, looking over all my POI's while mine 
are not totally accurate, there seems to be a general offset from my 
POIs to the Arrivac POIs, so I'm not sure which is correct
see my trace and POIs http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/kzap/traces/657452

Andre

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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-31 Thread maning sambale
"Anonymized" tracks (as requested by the donor) now available:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/arivac_bohol/traces/657789

This is the end of my role in this import process.

Thanks to all who got this rolling:
 - Totor for the initial contact
 - talk-ph for the comments and suggestions
 - Arivac Consortium particularly RITM and the Aalto University School
of Economics (formerly Helsinki School of Economics) in Finland

We leave to the OSM-PH community to continue maintaining and improving
the data.  I listed a some post-import tasks in the wiki, please add
more and update:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import_Arivac_Bohol#Post_import_tasks


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:14 AM, maning sambale
 wrote:
> POIs done (1979 nodes in all)!
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4282186
>
> The initial POI tags are here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import_Arivac_Bohol#POI_tags
>
> Sample tagging
> OSM added tags
> amenity:clinic
> clinic:public
> source:arivac
> source:url:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/
> FIXME:add names and proper tags
>
> Arivac reference tags
> arivac:name:L-01-606-010-06
> arivac:type_id:1.00
> arivac:typetxt:Barangay health station
>
> Some notes:
> 1. I didn't reconciled it with the existing POIs in OSM, I hope local
> mappers would do that.
> 2. Many tags are not "official" in a sense with the default OSM Map
> Features, for example, shop:corn_rice_mill.
> 3. A lot of POIs I don't normally map myself but I feel this is
> important for rural areas like sari-sari stores which were tagged as
> shop=convenience.
> 4. Some POIs are lumped into a sing category which needs further
> verification, for example, Car/motorcycle/bicycle shop/metal/car
> distributors which were tagged as       shop:car_parts.
> 5.  All POIs don't have a name
>
> Enjoy!
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Marloue Pidor  
> wrote:
>> Wow! this is nice, definitely this will help populate Bohol map.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> murlwe
>>
>> <-Original Message->
>>>From: Jeroen Hellingman [jer...@bohol.ph]
>>>Sent: 3/31/2010 4:04:18 AM
>>>To:
>>>Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>>>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>I've added a promotional article on this subject on my website
>>>
>>>http://www.bohol.ph/article.php?id=243
>>>
>>>Hope it helps to attract more volunteers.
>>>
>>>Remarks and corrections welcome!
>>>
>>>Jeroen.
>>>
>>>On 2010-03-30 19:56, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
>>>Well, because of Potlatch's 'R' key, many of Arivac's IDs are no longer
>>> correct. :-P
>>>
>>>
>>>On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Totor  wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>Great job Maning,
>>>and thanks to Arivac for the data.
>>>
>>>Some users are even more exited than you Maning:
>>>Doy_nick is already racing to improve the data !
>>>http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=123.626%2C9.54%2C124.18%2C9.806
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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-30 Thread maning sambale
POIs done (1979 nodes in all)!

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4282186

The initial POI tags are here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import_Arivac_Bohol#POI_tags

Sample tagging
OSM added tags
amenity:clinic
clinic:public
source:arivac
source:url:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/
FIXME:add names and proper tags

Arivac reference tags
arivac:name:L-01-606-010-06
arivac:type_id:1.00
arivac:typetxt:Barangay health station

Some notes:
1. I didn't reconciled it with the existing POIs in OSM, I hope local
mappers would do that.
2. Many tags are not "official" in a sense with the default OSM Map
Features, for example, shop:corn_rice_mill.
3. A lot of POIs I don't normally map myself but I feel this is
important for rural areas like sari-sari stores which were tagged as
shop=convenience.
4. Some POIs are lumped into a sing category which needs further
verification, for example, Car/motorcycle/bicycle shop/metal/car
distributors which were tagged as   shop:car_parts.
5.  All POIs don't have a name

Enjoy!
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Marloue Pidor  wrote:
> Wow! this is nice, definitely this will help populate Bohol map.
>
> Best,
>
> murlwe
>
> <-Original Message->
>>From: Jeroen Hellingman [jer...@bohol.ph]
>>Sent: 3/31/2010 4:04:18 AM
>>To:
>>Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
>>
>>
>>Hi All,
>>
>>I've added a promotional article on this subject on my website
>>
>>http://www.bohol.ph/article.php?id=243
>>
>>Hope it helps to attract more volunteers.
>>
>>Remarks and corrections welcome!
>>
>>Jeroen.
>>
>>On 2010-03-30 19:56, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
>>Well, because of Potlatch's 'R' key, many of Arivac's IDs are no longer
>> correct. :-P
>>
>>
>>On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Totor  wrote:
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Great job Maning,
>>and thanks to Arivac for the data.
>>
>>Some users are even more exited than you Maning:
>>Doy_nick is already racing to improve the data !
>>http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=123.626%2C9.54%2C124.18%2C9.806
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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-30 Thread Marloue Pidor
Wow! this is nice, definitely this will help populate Bohol map.

Best,

murlwe

<-Original Message-> 
>From: Jeroen Hellingman [jer...@bohol.ph]
>Sent: 3/31/2010 4:04:18 AM
>To: 
>Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
>
>
>Hi All,
>
>I've added a promotional article on this subject on my website
>
>http://www.bohol.ph/article.php?id=243
>
>Hope it helps to attract more volunteers.
>
>Remarks and corrections welcome!
>
>Jeroen.
>
>On 2010-03-30 19:56, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: 
>Well, because of Potlatch's 'R' key, many of Arivac's IDs are no longer
correct. :-P
>
>
>On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Totor  wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>Great job Maning,
>and thanks to Arivac for the data.
>
>Some users are even more exited than you Maning:
>Doy_nick is already racing to improve the data !
>http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=123.626%2C9.54%2C124.18%2C9.8
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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-30 Thread Jeroen Hellingman


Hi All,

I've added a promotional article on this subject on my website

http://www.bohol.ph/article.php?id=243

Hope it helps to attract more volunteers.

Remarks and corrections welcome!

Jeroen.

On 2010-03-30 19:56, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
Well, because of Potlatch's 'R' key, many of Arivac's IDs are no 
longer correct. :-P


On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Totor > wrote:


Hi,

Great job Maning,
and thanks to Arivac for the data.

Some users are even more exited than you Maning:
Doy_nick is already racing to improve the data !
http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=123.626%2C9.54%2C124.18%2C9.806



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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-30 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Well, because of Potlatch's 'R' key, many of Arivac's IDs are no longer
correct. :-P

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Totor  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Great job Maning,
> and thanks to Arivac for the data.
>
> Some users are even more exited than you Maning:
> Doy_nick is already racing to improve the data !
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=123.626%2C9.54%2C124.18%2C9.806
>
> Cheers,
>
> Totor
>
>
> --- On Tue, 3/30/10, maning sambale  wrote:
>
> > From: maning sambale 
> > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
> > To: "osm-ph" 
> > Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 9:46 AM
> > Initial import is complete:
> >
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4274673
> > approx 420 ++ km of new roads added
> >
> >
>
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[talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-30 Thread Andre Marcelo-Tanner
nice very nice, accurate too i find.
are POIs still to come?
Is there a site that stores tiles each day so we can compare before and 
after?

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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-30 Thread Totor
Hi,

Great job Maning, 
and thanks to Arivac for the data.

Some users are even more exited than you Maning:
Doy_nick is already racing to improve the data !
http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=123.626%2C9.54%2C124.18%2C9.806

Cheers,

Totor


--- On Tue, 3/30/10, maning sambale  wrote:

> From: maning sambale 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
> To: "osm-ph" 
> Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 9:46 AM
> Initial import is complete:
> 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4274673
> approx 420 ++ km of new roads added
> 
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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-30 Thread maning sambale
Initial import is complete:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4274673
approx 420 ++ km of new roads added


On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:56 PM, maning sambale
 wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Totor  wrote:
>> I think option 3 is the best indeed, so that we will not lose the existing 
>> road classification.
> Done!  I'm finished with conflating OSM and Arivac data.  There are
> some ways that I did not removed because I'm not sure which has better
> road representation.
>
> Eugene has some reservations with using:
> website:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/
>
> Should I revert back to source_url:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/ ?
>
>> Would it be a big job to also create an osm file with the ways that are not 
>> imported ?
>
> I can provide the original OSM  file for others to use with offline editing.
>
>> This would allow in a second time to manually check the position of the 
>> already existing roads. (since some seem based on gps traces jumping all 
>> over the place.)
>> We could also wait for GPS traces...
> I hope they provide them as well.
>
> I will wait for more replies today before uploading the initial
> import.  I hope to finish this today so that others can start editing
> this holy week.  Think of it as your penance. :)
>
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Totor
>>
>> --- On Tue, 3/30/10, maning sambale  wrote:
>>
>>> From: maning sambale 
>>> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
>>> To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>>> Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:19 AM
>>> Alright, I didn't "hear" any
>>> objections, so I assume the community is
>>> OK with the road import.  We will be adopting Option 3
>>> : Pre-process
>>> data to remove any duplicates from existing OSM data before
>>> upload.
>>>
>>> I will start conflating both data offline (osm and
>>> arivac).   When
>>> there is duplicate with arivac, OSM data will be
>>> retained.  The
>>> generic tag for roads are as follows:
>>>
>>> FIXME:verify road type
>>> arivac_ID_ROA_BAS_: some number
>>> highway:road
>>> source:arivac
>>> website:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/
>>>
>>> The donor requested to retain the "arivac_ID_ROA_BAS_: some
>>> number" so
>>> that they can integrate our improvements into their own
>>> database later
>>> on.
>>>
>>> After the import, more work is needed particularly in add
>>> the correct
>>> highway category.
>>>
>>> I will announce the import later and will proceed if there
>>> no further
>>> objections.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Totor 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hello all,
>>> >
>>> > Great data as far as it can be checked.
>>> > (there are not that many gps traces in Tagbilaran with
>>> a good dop)
>>> > The maximum offset to my gps tracks is around 5m
>>> >
>>> > Some intersections look a bit weird (4 roads join 2 by
>>> 2, then a link joins the 2 nodes instead of 1 common node
>>> for the 4 segments) but that can be fixed easily later on.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Totor
>>
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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-29 Thread maning sambale
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Totor  wrote:
> I think option 3 is the best indeed, so that we will not lose the existing 
> road classification.
Done!  I'm finished with conflating OSM and Arivac data.  There are
some ways that I did not removed because I'm not sure which has better
road representation.

Eugene has some reservations with using:
website:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/

Should I revert back to source_url:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/ ?

> Would it be a big job to also create an osm file with the ways that are not 
> imported ?

I can provide the original OSM  file for others to use with offline editing.

> This would allow in a second time to manually check the position of the 
> already existing roads. (since some seem based on gps traces jumping all over 
> the place.)
> We could also wait for GPS traces...
I hope they provide them as well.

I will wait for more replies today before uploading the initial
import.  I hope to finish this today so that others can start editing
this holy week.  Think of it as your penance. :)


> Regards,
>
> Totor
>
> --- On Tue, 3/30/10, maning sambale  wrote:
>
>> From: maning sambale 
>> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
>> To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>> Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:19 AM
>> Alright, I didn't "hear" any
>> objections, so I assume the community is
>> OK with the road import.  We will be adopting Option 3
>> : Pre-process
>> data to remove any duplicates from existing OSM data before
>> upload.
>>
>> I will start conflating both data offline (osm and
>> arivac).   When
>> there is duplicate with arivac, OSM data will be
>> retained.  The
>> generic tag for roads are as follows:
>>
>> FIXME:verify road type
>> arivac_ID_ROA_BAS_: some number
>> highway:road
>> source:arivac
>> website:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/
>>
>> The donor requested to retain the "arivac_ID_ROA_BAS_: some
>> number" so
>> that they can integrate our improvements into their own
>> database later
>> on.
>>
>> After the import, more work is needed particularly in add
>> the correct
>> highway category.
>>
>> I will announce the import later and will proceed if there
>> no further
>> objections.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Totor 
>> wrote:
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> > Great data as far as it can be checked.
>> > (there are not that many gps traces in Tagbilaran with
>> a good dop)
>> > The maximum offset to my gps tracks is around 5m
>> >
>> > Some intersections look a bit weird (4 roads join 2 by
>> 2, then a link joins the 2 nodes instead of 1 common node
>> for the 4 segments) but that can be fixed easily later on.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Totor
>
>
>
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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-29 Thread Totor
I think option 3 is the best indeed, so that we will not lose the existing road 
classification.
 
Would it be a big job to also create an osm file with the ways that are not 
imported ? 
This would allow in a second time to manually check the position of the already 
existing roads. (since some seem based on gps traces jumping all over the 
place.)

We could also wait for GPS traces...

Regards,

Totor

--- On Tue, 3/30/10, maning sambale  wrote:

> From: maning sambale 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
> To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
> Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 2:19 AM
> Alright, I didn't "hear" any
> objections, so I assume the community is
> OK with the road import.  We will be adopting Option 3
> : Pre-process
> data to remove any duplicates from existing OSM data before
> upload.
> 
> I will start conflating both data offline (osm and
> arivac).   When
> there is duplicate with arivac, OSM data will be
> retained.  The
> generic tag for roads are as follows:
> 
> FIXME:verify road type
> arivac_ID_ROA_BAS_: some number
> highway:road
> source:arivac
> website:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/
> 
> The donor requested to retain the "arivac_ID_ROA_BAS_: some
> number" so
> that they can integrate our improvements into their own
> database later
> on.
> 
> After the import, more work is needed particularly in add
> the correct
> highway category.
> 
> I will announce the import later and will proceed if there
> no further
> objections.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Totor 
> wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > Great data as far as it can be checked.
> > (there are not that many gps traces in Tagbilaran with
> a good dop)
> > The maximum offset to my gps tracks is around 5m
> >
> > Some intersections look a bit weird (4 roads join 2 by
> 2, then a link joins the 2 nodes instead of 1 common node
> for the 4 segments) but that can be fixed easily later on.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Totor



  

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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-29 Thread maning sambale
Alright, I didn't "hear" any objections, so I assume the community is
OK with the road import.  We will be adopting Option 3 : Pre-process
data to remove any duplicates from existing OSM data before upload.

I will start conflating both data offline (osm and arivac).   When
there is duplicate with arivac, OSM data will be retained.  The
generic tag for roads are as follows:

FIXME:verify road type
arivac_ID_ROA_BAS_: some number
highway:road
source:arivac
website:http://hisdu2.sph.uq.edu.au/arivac/

The donor requested to retain the "arivac_ID_ROA_BAS_: some number" so
that they can integrate our improvements into their own database later
on.

After the import, more work is needed particularly in add the correct
highway category.

I will announce the import later and will proceed if there no further
objections.


On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Totor  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Great data as far as it can be checked.
> (there are not that many gps traces in Tagbilaran with a good dop)
> The maximum offset to my gps tracks is around 5m
>
> Some intersections look a bit weird (4 roads join 2 by 2, then a link joins 
> the 2 nodes instead of 1 common node for the 4 segments) but that can be 
> fixed easily later on.
>
> Regards,
>
> Totor
>
>
>
>
> --- On Mon, 3/29/10, maning sambale  wrote:
>
>> From: maning sambale 
>> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
>> To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>> Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 10:33 AM
>> For the roads, here's a test OSM file
>> for everyone to review:
>>
>> http://esambale.wikispaces.com/file/detail/road_basic_test.osm.zip
>>
>> PLEASE DO NOT UPLOAD TO OSM DATABASE!
>>
>> This is just a test file.  Please comment.
>>
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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-29 Thread maning sambale
Andre,

I suggest you wait.  We are almost done with the translation (banging
my head with the python script!) and waiting for comments from the
data holder.

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner
 wrote:
> Looking at my data I have a lot of POIs not in OSM, do you guys want me
> to upload those now, or wait for the arivac POI's ?
>
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[talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-29 Thread Andre Marcelo-Tanner
Looking at my data I have a lot of POIs not in OSM, do you guys want me 
to upload those now, or wait for the arivac POI's ?

Andre

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[talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-29 Thread Andre Marcelo-Tanner
ok had a look, I dont have that much tracks in Tagbilaran but those 
roads match my GPS tracks, compared to the actual roads in OSM which are 
a bit off. So so far looks good.
Looks like arivac has a lot more road data than OSM so it shouldnt be 
hard to preprocess it.

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[talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-29 Thread Andre Marcelo-Tanner
ah i have some stuff here, let me see if I can compare my tracks and 
waypoints I recorded last year :) never uploaded it hehe

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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-29 Thread Totor
Hello all,

Great data as far as it can be checked. 
(there are not that many gps traces in Tagbilaran with a good dop)
The maximum offset to my gps tracks is around 5m

Some intersections look a bit weird (4 roads join 2 by 2, then a link joins the 
2 nodes instead of 1 common node for the 4 segments) but that can be fixed 
easily later on.

Regards,

Totor




--- On Mon, 3/29/10, maning sambale  wrote:

> From: maning sambale 
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import
> To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
> Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 10:33 AM
> For the roads, here's a test OSM file
> for everyone to review:
> 
> http://esambale.wikispaces.com/file/detail/road_basic_test.osm.zip
> 
> PLEASE DO NOT UPLOAD TO OSM DATABASE!
> 
> This is just a test file.  Please comment.
> 



  

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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-29 Thread maning sambale
For the roads, here's a test OSM file for everyone to review:

http://esambale.wikispaces.com/file/detail/road_basic_test.osm.zip

PLEASE DO NOT UPLOAD TO OSM DATABASE!

This is just a test file.  Please comment.

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 5:42 PM, maning sambale
 wrote:
> I updated the page for the progress:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import_Arivac_Bohol
>
> So far, we have the basic road data in shapefile.  We (totor and me)
> translated the POI codes into OSM tags (link to the Google spreadsheet
> in the wiki).  Please correct and wikify the codes.
>
> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Jim Morgan  wrote:
>> maning sambale wrote, On Saturday, 27 March, 2010 11:42 AM:
>>> For comments:
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import_Arivac_Bohol
>>
>> Sounds good. I'd be glad to help out. As the amount of data currently in the 
>> area is negligable, and the amount to be imported is huge, maybe the best 
>> plan would be to keep a copy of what's there, and then just replace it 
>> wholesale.
>>
>> Then a few of us could assign ourselves areas, and manually re-add the old 
>> tags to the new data.
>>
>> Then we could recruit the help of locals to tag the road names and types, 
>> and any other features. This is a lot easier when the roads are already in 
>> place.
>>
>> But then again, I haven't really been involved in a mass-import before, so 
>> there's probably a few problems with that idea. If so, I'd go for the 
>> pre-processing idea.
>>
>> Jim
>>
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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-29 Thread maning sambale
I updated the page for the progress:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import_Arivac_Bohol

So far, we have the basic road data in shapefile.  We (totor and me)
translated the POI codes into OSM tags (link to the Google spreadsheet
in the wiki).  Please correct and wikify the codes.

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Jim Morgan  wrote:
> maning sambale wrote, On Saturday, 27 March, 2010 11:42 AM:
>> For comments:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import_Arivac_Bohol
>
> Sounds good. I'd be glad to help out. As the amount of data currently in the 
> area is negligable, and the amount to be imported is huge, maybe the best 
> plan would be to keep a copy of what's there, and then just replace it 
> wholesale.
>
> Then a few of us could assign ourselves areas, and manually re-add the old 
> tags to the new data.
>
> Then we could recruit the help of locals to tag the road names and types, and 
> any other features. This is a lot easier when the roads are already in place.
>
> But then again, I haven't really been involved in a mass-import before, so 
> there's probably a few problems with that idea. If so, I'd go for the 
> pre-processing idea.
>
> Jim
>
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Re: [talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-27 Thread Jim Morgan
maning sambale wrote, On Saturday, 27 March, 2010 11:42 AM:
> For comments:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import_Arivac_Bohol

Sounds good. I'd be glad to help out. As the amount of data currently in the 
area is negligable, and the amount to be imported is huge, maybe the best plan 
would be to keep a copy of what's there, and then just replace it wholesale. 

Then a few of us could assign ourselves areas, and manually re-add the old tags 
to the new data. 

Then we could recruit the help of locals to tag the road names and types, and 
any other features. This is a lot easier when the roads are already in place. 

But then again, I haven't really been involved in a mass-import before, so 
there's probably a few problems with that idea. If so, I'd go for the 
pre-processing idea. 

Jim


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[talk-ph] RFC: Planned Arivac Bohol Data Import

2010-03-26 Thread maning sambale
For comments:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Data_import_Arivac_Bohol

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