Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
Hi guys, Jochen Toph (of Germany) updated the wiki page on Local Chapters: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters It contains more info especially on the meeting that took place at SOTM 2009. So it seems that the draft agreement between OSMF and local chapters is *far* from the actual agreement that may be done. Eugene On 8/6/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I added our plans to form an OSM-PH org here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters I also requested/nominated Entrhopia to take on the interim Sec/Treas position at the moment. Another thing we should look into: Local Chapters would pay the Foundation a fee based on the number of members (£10 is currently proposed). On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: Sorry I missed this. Yes, I still volunteer, and I'm going to the Phils in 3 weeks anyway, so if it will happen between 3 and 7 weeks from now, perfect! Ronny. Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Ronny volunteered to be one of the incorporators before: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.html On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote: no responses yet, need 1 more, 4 cannot make a company, need 5 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
Hi Mike, Thanks for bringing the OSMF perspective here. I'm not experienced in these things, but I don't think membership fees would be feasible as the main source of funding of OSMF in the long run with respect to the technical operating costs (legal, administrative, etc. costs are fine). As I recall, OSM had a server donation drive early this year and I think the total donation (£16,222) *far* exceeded the total annual membership fees that can be collected (160 members x £15 = £2400). I see that fundraising is one of the thrusts of OSMF in the near to mid future but I don't think increasing the collected membership fees via federated local chapters is a healthy way to go about it. This might result in local groups doing OSMF-y things in their countries their own way (Germany springs to mind). But if some form of payment is needed for purposes of local chapters, I can think of two options: 1. Adjust the £10 per member fee to reflect purchasing power parity (PPP). If my calculations are correct, this comes out to £4.38 for the Philippines which is a more feasible P350. 2. Have a per chapter bulk fee (again adjusted for PPP). A drastic alternative would be to model the OSMF local chapter system to that of Wikimedia Foundation's. As far as I know, the Wikimedia local chapters have no financial obligations to WMF, though they can help in their own ways (like Wikimedia Deutschland donating toolservers for the Wikimedia projects to use). Regards, Eugene On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: The dilemma for for us at the main OSM Foundation is that by setting up local chapters, our main reliable source of funding, the annual subscriptions that members pay, may no longer come in directly. Much of that money is spent on computer hardware to keep our sites up, and a proportion on promoting OSM globally and a proportion on legal and other costs. These subscriptions are GBP 15 annually ... so the figure of GBP 10 is essentially saying that the local chapter should keep 1/3 for local costs and promotion. In a European and North American context, that is not an unreasonable figure for most countries. For example, I am a member of a small town cycle club with no great costs and the annual membership is GBP 18. However, elsewhere, I concur with Eugene that it will be too much. It will be a deterrent to recruiting members and be a large an inclusive organisation. I am sure it is no coincidence that the Philippines has an active and increasingly large community but no OSMF members at all. I suspect the solution is for you to simply negotiate a lower rate, but any other ideas are welcome. What would be a big win for all of us is to be collectively much bigger than we are now but still have a income to grow with. Nick has suggested 13,000, i.e. around 10% of folks who register an OSM account. That would certainly make us much more representative than our membership today of 160! Mike At 04:08 PM 6/08/2009, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: I think I mentioned this before but I disagree with the fee. In the draft agreement, the idea is to pay £10 *for each member of the local chapter*! I think this is too much. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I added our plans to form an OSM-PH org here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters I also requested/nominated Entrhopia to take on the interim Sec/Treas position at the moment. Another thing we should look into: Local Chapters would pay the Foundation a fee based on the number of members (£10 is currently proposed). On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: Sorry I missed this. Yes, I still volunteer, and I'm going to the Phils in 3 weeks anyway, so if it will happen between 3 and 7 weeks from now, perfect! Ronny. Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Ronny volunteered to be one of the incorporators before: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.html On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote: no responses yet, need 1 more, 4 cannot make a company, need 5 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
The dilemma for for us at the main OSM Foundation is that by setting up local chapters, our main reliable source of funding, the annual subscriptions that members pay, may no longer come in directly. Much of that money is spent on computer hardware to keep our sites up, and a proportion on promoting OSM globally and a proportion on legal and other costs. These subscriptions are GBP 15 annually ... so the figure of GBP 10 is essentially saying that the local chapter should keep 1/3 for local costs and promotion. In a European and North American context, that is not an unreasonable figure for most countries. For example, I am a member of a small town cycle club with no great costs and the annual membership is GBP 18. However, elsewhere, I concur with Eugene that it will be too much. It will be a deterrent to recruiting members and be a large an inclusive organisation. I am sure it is no coincidence that the Philippines has an active and increasingly large community but no OSMF members at all. I suspect the solution is for you to simply negotiate a lower rate, but any other ideas are welcome. What would be a big win for all of us is to be collectively much bigger than we are now but still have a income to grow with. Nick has suggested 13,000, i.e. around 10% of folks who register an OSM account. That would certainly make us much more representative than our membership today of 160! Mike At 04:08 PM 6/08/2009, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: I think I mentioned this before but I disagree with the fee. In the draft agreement, the idea is to pay £10 for each member of the local chapter! I think this is too much. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM, maning sambale mailto:emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I added our plans to form an OSM-PH org here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chaptershttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters I also requested/nominated Entrhopia to take on the interim Sec/Treas position at the moment. Another thing we should look into: Local Chapters would pay the Foundation a fee based on the number of members (£10 is currently proposed). On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.mailto:r...@develo.ltd.ukr...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: Sorry I missed this. Yes, I still volunteer, and I'm going to the Phils in 3 weeks anyway, so if it will happen between 3 and 7 weeks from now, perfect! Ronny. Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Ronny volunteered to be one of the incorporators before: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.htmlhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.html On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner mailto:an...@enthropia.coman...@enthropia.com wrote: no responses yet, need 1 more, 4 cannot make a company, need 5 ___ talk-ph mailing list mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.orgtalk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.orgtalk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list mailto:talk-ph@openstreetmap.orgtalk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.comhttp://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
I added our plans to form an OSM-PH org here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters I also requested/nominated Entrhopia to take on the interim Sec/Treas position at the moment. Another thing we should look into: Local Chapters would pay the Foundation a fee based on the number of members (£10 is currently proposed). On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: Sorry I missed this. Yes, I still volunteer, and I'm going to the Phils in 3 weeks anyway, so if it will happen between 3 and 7 weeks from now, perfect! Ronny. Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Ronny volunteered to be one of the incorporators before: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.html On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote: no responses yet, need 1 more, 4 cannot make a company, need 5 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
I think I mentioned this before but I disagree with the fee. In the draft agreement, the idea is to pay £10 *for each member of the local chapter*! I think this is too much. On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote: I added our plans to form an OSM-PH org here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters I also requested/nominated Entrhopia to take on the interim Sec/Treas position at the moment. Another thing we should look into: Local Chapters would pay the Foundation a fee based on the number of members (£10 is currently proposed). On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: Sorry I missed this. Yes, I still volunteer, and I'm going to the Phils in 3 weeks anyway, so if it will happen between 3 and 7 weeks from now, perfect! Ronny. Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Ronny volunteered to be one of the incorporators before: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.html On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote: no responses yet, need 1 more, 4 cannot make a company, need 5 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
What would be the point of paying? It says a local chapter can use the logo and osm domain and promote osm. Isnt counter-productive to charge an organization which wants to help improve OSM locally by its own resources/costs? A per member fee is rather high, maybe a low chapter fee would be ok, but what do they need the fees for anyway? Its just like a way of saying this one is officially recognized. Also for paying that fee what does the local chapter get in return? Do we get like gps units, documents, paraphernalia? Stuff that helps us? Anyway I know its all still under discussion but I think it wouldnt be worth paying unless there is just reason and the members here agree to it. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
Ronny volunteered to be one of the incorporators before: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.html On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.comwrote: no responses yet, need 1 more, 4 cannot make a company, need 5 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
ok thats 5 then, is Murlwe in Davao atm? ok i have to look into the logistics of having incorporators abroad and not all in the same place. Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Ronny volunteered to be one of the incorporators before: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.html On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com mailto:an...@enthropia.com wrote: no responses yet, need 1 more, 4 cannot make a company, need 5 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
Awww. No beer with all the incorporators in one amenity=pub signing the SEC documents? :) On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanneran...@enthropia.com wrote: ok thats 5 then, is Murlwe in Davao atm? ok i have to look into the logistics of having incorporators abroad and not all in the same place. Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Ronny volunteered to be one of the incorporators before: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.html On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote: no responses yet, need 1 more, 4 cannot make a company, need 5 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
Sorry I missed this. Yes, I still volunteer, and I'm going to the Phils in 3 weeks anyway, so if it will happen between 3 and 7 weeks from now, perfect! Ronny. Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Ronny volunteered to be one of the incorporators before: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.html On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com mailto:an...@enthropia.com wrote: no responses yet, need 1 more, 4 cannot make a company, need 5 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
/ok so we have 4 incorporators, need 1 more. Maning declined for president, how bout for secretary/treasurer. Essentially theyre the signing person, sign this doc etc, this form, secretary certificate, treasurers cert etc etc. Who would like to be President? president should probably be someone who has the orgs best interests at heart, is active in the community and wants to lead/direct OSM Philippines on to greater things. I know a few here who would fit that profile, nominations anyone? BTW you can be an incorporator if you are not a Filipino citizen, you just cant have more than 40% shares, which doesnt matter since this is a nonstock. Incorporators // 1.) Enthropia Inc. // 2.) Neuraltech // 3.) Maning // 4.) Eugene // 5.) / ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
My own personal opinion, BTW, is that having a formal organisation rather then just meeting for great mapping parties :-) is not of great value to individual mappers, BUT is very useful when asking organisations to donate data and moderately so for generating publicity statements for tv and newspapers ... I respectfully disagree Mike. If mappers don't see any value in such an org, then why should we bother? Data donations, publicity is important to expand OSM-PH. However, I believe the core of this project is the community (mappers), supporting (not competing) with local efforts of mappers should be the prime goal. Perhaps a misunderstood your statement. so I kinda hope you do! I hope so too. This has been our goal since we met in Manila years ago. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
Was wondering when you guys wanted to do this, most people are favorable, not everyone answered even after multiple queries so the best I can say is that those who post most here are for it. As for the OSM-F doc, its just a doc, we dont need to have something like that, it would be something to sign between the org and osm-f if osm-f requires it for them to recognize us as an official member. If we want to move forward with this, we need 5 signatories as is required to setup a corporation. What this requires is a Cedula and TIN and that you sign the corporate documents. Also we need board members, specifically a treasurer who signs the bank titf and a corporate secretary who signs all the other stuff. Treasurer and Secretary can be one person but may not be the president I believe. So far we'll sign as 1 incorporator, please put your name in the list if you wish to be an incorporator and or if you wish to be board member or wish to nominate someone for the board, I nominate Maning for President :) Incorporators 1.) Enthropia Inc. 2.) 3.) 4.) 5.) Board Member Nominations President - maning Vice President - Treasurer - Secretary - ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
I'm willing to be an incorporator. And since the minimum capital for a non-profit is 5k pesos (I think), I'm willing to donate 1k pesos. However, the minimum required to open a bank account is 20-25k (depending on the bank) so I'm hoping somebody else can help foot that. :-) Suggestion: I think it would be best that the incorporators all be in or near Metro Manila so that the signing of papers would be easy. But the board or directors/trustees and the set of officers can be anyone. The incorporators only function during the incorporation and dissolution stages, so I don't think the incorporators need to be diverse and representative of the community. Any other thoughts? On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.comwrote: Was wondering when you guys wanted to do this, most people are favorable, not everyone answered even after multiple queries so the best I can say is that those who post most here are for it. As for the OSM-F doc, its just a doc, we dont need to have something like that, it would be something to sign between the org and osm-f if osm-f requires it for them to recognize us as an official member. If we want to move forward with this, we need 5 signatories as is required to setup a corporation. What this requires is a Cedula and TIN and that you sign the corporate documents. Also we need board members, specifically a treasurer who signs the bank titf and a corporate secretary who signs all the other stuff. Treasurer and Secretary can be one person but may not be the president I believe. So far we'll sign as 1 incorporator, please put your name in the list if you wish to be an incorporator and or if you wish to be board member or wish to nominate someone for the board, I nominate Maning for President :) Incorporators 1.) Enthropia Inc. 2.) 3.) 4.) 5.) Board Member Nominations President - maning Vice President - Treasurer - Secretary - ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
On 7/19/09, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote: Was wondering when you guys wanted to do this, most people are favorable, not everyone answered even after multiple queries so the best I can say is that those who post most here are for it. As for the OSM-F doc, its just a doc, we dont need to have something like that, it would be something to sign between the org and osm-f if osm-f requires it for them to recognize us as an official member. If we want to move forward with this, we need 5 signatories as is required to setup a corporation. What this requires is a Cedula and TIN and that you sign the corporate documents. Also we need board members, specifically a treasurer who signs the bank titf and a corporate secretary who signs all the other stuff. Treasurer and Secretary can be one person but may not be the president I believe. So far we'll sign as 1 incorporator, please put your name in the list if you wish to be an incorporator Maning - willing to be an incorporator to get this rolling and or if you wish to be board member or wish to nominate someone for the board, I nominate Maning for President :) But let's not hurry into this one. Previous experience in coordination/management/admininstration end up burned-out and won't be willing to take on another one in the near future. However, mapping helps reduce the stress :) Incorporators 1.) Enthropia Inc. 2.) 3.) 4.) 5.) Board Member Nominations President - maning Vice President - Treasurer - Secretary - ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter
If I remember it right, Enthropia commited to help us in setting-up a local chapter. I believe Andre even posted a short survey to list members of what are their views on formalizing OSM-PH. Most people who answered are in favor of the formalization. Totor has some reservations for a possible admin/management overhead of a formal org. We want it done but somebody has to do it. :) @ Andre, can you give us some update on Enthropia's previous offer? Sayang yung opportunity. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Marloue Pidormur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: This is nice, you have me on this. murlwe -Original Message- From: Eugene Alvin Villar [sea...@gmail.com] Sent: 7/18/2009 6:54:52 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Draft MoA between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter Hi guys, I came across this draft agreement between a local organization wanting to officially represent the OSM-F in a local jurisdiction and the OSM-F: http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgdmw5gt_7gtj36hhh What do you guys think? Regards, Eugene / seav -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage POP3 Calendar SMS Translator Much More! ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
