Re: [talk-ph] FW: [Ticket#2022012010000052] "Open Paint Maps"

[Vincent Veldman]

Yes his versioning of comments is awkward.

Doubt it's a kid. A child wouldn't do the versioning - highly unlikely.

And his grammar/style - Either we're dealing with someone who's mentally not 
capable - then we should be very considerate and try to help.

or with someone who seriously has some issues with English and maybe therefore 
making mistakes and doesn't understand how everything works.


In any case, looking at the edits - I doubt we're dealing here with someone who 
does deliberate vandalism. The edits don't look like deliberate vandalism.


But I can understand the frustration - I for one wouldn't know how to revert 
changesets so it would be a huge problem to me.


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Change_rollback - that article isn't really 
straight forward either.
Some tutorials with step by step and illustration surely wouldn't be a bad 
thing for the wiki for something as important as reverting changesets.




 From:   Jherome Miguel  
 To:   , talk-ph  
 Sent:   25/01/2022 12:47 
 Subject:   Re: [talk-ph] FW: [Ticket#202201201052] "Open Paint Maps" 


All I know is most of his edit comments save "Version [number]" are mostly 
hardly understandable garbage. Also, I'm not attempting any communication with 
him (and I also asked other mappers not to attempt communication or name him in 
edits rolling back his changes) since those threats of block in what I think to 
be apparent revenge for reverting or correcting his shady map edits, and there 
seems to be competency issues with the mapper. Other fellow Filipino mappers 
suspect this could be a sock of long-time problematic user, but it's a 
different case after all.

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Re: [talk-ph] FW: [Ticket#2022012010000052] "Open Paint Maps"

[Jherome Miguel]

All I know is most of his edit comments save "Version [number]" are mostly
hardly understandable garbage. Also, I'm not attempting any communication
with him (and I also asked other mappers not to attempt communication or
name him in edits rolling back his changes) since those threats of block in
what I think to be apparent revenge for reverting or correcting his shady
map edits, and there seems to be competency issues with the mapper. Other
fellow Filipino mappers suspect this could be a sock of long-time
problematic user, but it's a different case after all.

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 8:56 PM Vincent Veldman  wrote:

> “One Way Another May Road Number”
>
> Maybe he means:
> -1) this is a one-way
> -2) another user may add the road number
>
> Maybe addressing him in his native tongue could clarify some issues?
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Re: [talk-ph] FW: [Ticket#2022012010000052] "Open Paint Maps"

[Vincent Veldman]

 “One Way Another May Road Number”


Maybe he means:
-1) this is a one-way
-2) another user may add the road number



Maybe addressing him in his native tongue could clarify some issues?



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Re: [talk-ph] FW: [Ticket#2022012010000052] "Open Paint Maps"

[Jherome Miguel]

I'm considering correcting some of the user's changes, but I'm not ready to
take on it, as he might troll me again with frivolous block request if I
do. Maybe from the words he use, I do really question if he could be just
some kid or youngster. Again, I do question his competence since I was
targeted by his childish rant, and I still stand for longer block for my
peace of mind.

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:19 AM Jherome Miguel 
wrote:

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> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows
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>
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> *From: *Jherome Miguel 
> *Sent: *Friday, 21 January 2022 3:26 am
> *To: *Ian Lopez via talk-ph 
> *Subject: *RE: [Ticket#202201201052] [talk-ph] "Open Paint Maps"
>
>
>
> Maybe a kid or young teen, unfortunately we don’t know. Doesn’t OSM have a
> minimum age requirement for a user?
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>
> Going on, I would also like to note his user descriptions. First, it was
> “U M G”, then it become “Home Countries Map”. Looks child stuff, but better
> beware, he could just be feigning that. And also note his changeset
> comments like “Drawing paint secondary road map blocked SometingElse””
> “One Way Another May Road Number”. I can’t understand those, and I’ll
> readily question his competence.
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> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows
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> *From: *Data Working Group 
> *Sent: *Friday, 21 January 2022 3:14 am
> *To: *Jherome Miguel 
> *Subject: *Re: [Ticket#202201201052] [talk-ph] "Open Paint Maps"
>
>
>
> > We can’t just trust anyone in the Net.
>
> It's always been like that -
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Internet,_nobody_knows_you%27re_a_dog
> is from 1993 (!)
>
> Based on the reactions and comments from this mapper, my guess is that
> they're still at school.
>
> Best regards
> Andy Townsend
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> [Ticket#202201201052]
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> 20/01/2022 08:48 (Europe/London) - Jherome Miguel wrote:
>
> Maybe sorry if my first response was an overreaction, but I can’t
> understand his changeset comments in the first place and he repeatedly
> trolled me (and also you) with proposed block in changeset comments and in
> diary posts that have been deleted. Maybe he could just be throwing a fit
> after being reverted, but it’s hard to tell what he means behind a screen.
> His English is incomprehensible, and his profile pic is kind of childish
> art, but that’s all I know about him. We can’t just trust anyone in the Net.
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