Re: [talk-ph] GPS reservation request
Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. wrote, On Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 06:52 PM: Thanks Jim, that is very useful! Will definitely check out one of those converters. You can probably get them anywhere, but I just found them on that site recently. I was thinking of simply collecting all the data and process it when we come home to Magalang, but it seems increasingly intriguing to bring a laptop and do edits directly on the road. Do you know if usable packages exit for Ubuntu that can act as a GPS with one of the loggers connected to the USB port? According to Maning, the guys in Davao did just that: The davao guys murlwe and smackcode used the gpstogo units with tangogps: http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/06/diy-gps-navigation-rig.html I'm not sure how that worked exactly, but tangoGPS uses gpsd, so anything that can communicate with that will work. I was using a bluetooth dongle, but a USB connection would work just as well, as long as Ubuntu recognises it. You have to fiddle with rfcomm a bit I seem to remember. Hopefully those pointers will give you enough to go on. USB - rfcomm - gpsd - TangoGPS The only 'gotcha' with the GT-31 is that its waypoints dump needs to be converted to a recognisable format on a windows box. So you'd sidestep that if you were logging directly to TangoGPS. Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 920 912 5830 Hong Kong: +852 9100 7586 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] GPS reservation request
Jim Morgan wrote: Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. wrote, On Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 06:52 PM: Thanks Jim, that is very useful! Will definitely check out one of those converters. You can probably get them anywhere, but I just found them on that site recently. Yep, I was aware of their existence, I just didn't realize they were so cheap :) I was thinking of simply collecting all the data and process it when we come home to Magalang, but it seems increasingly intriguing to bring a laptop and do edits directly on the road. Do you know if usable packages exit for Ubuntu that can act as a GPS with one of the loggers connected to the USB port? According to Maning, the guys in Davao did just that: The davao guys murlwe and smackcode used the gpstogo units with tangogps: http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/06/diy-gps-navigation-rig.html This is perfect for mapping from a car, which is fortunately most of the time. However, if I go on a long trip on foot, the laptop will eventually run out of battery, so I can't depend on logging straight to TagoGPS all the time. I'm not sure how that worked exactly, but tangoGPS uses gpsd, so anything that can communicate with that will work. I was using a bluetooth dongle, but a USB connection would work just as well, as long as Ubuntu recognises it. You have to fiddle with rfcomm a bit I seem to remember. Hopefully those pointers will give you enough to go on. USB - rfcomm - gpsd - TangoGPS The only 'gotcha' with the GT-31 is that its waypoints dump needs to be converted to a recognisable format on a windows box. So you'd sidestep that if you were logging directly to TangoGPS. Jim Very useful, Jim! Thanks a lot for that. That gotcha is definitely a big gotcha. I don't stock windoze computers, so that would be pretty annoying. *Does anyone know of any gps loggers that can be bought for a reasonable amount of money that does NOT use some obscure proprietary file format?* I'm still in the UK so I can get one from here if needed. I could always use my dusty old Win2k VM, which I'm sure I can dig out from my backup hard drive somewhere, but I can't remember if USB was even invented at that time, not do I know if it will work in VMWare. But I really just want to avoid reliance on proprietary stuff. I want to be able to help others with this after I've done it, and people that know me knows very well that I will never say then just start up Windows to download and convert this file. There must be a better solution. Will search for some linux friendly GPS loggers on Amazon later :) Ronny. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] GPS reservation request
Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. wrote, On Friday, 17 July, 2009 06:38 PM: The only 'gotcha' with the GT-31 is that its waypoints dump needs to be converted to a recognisable format on a windows box. So you'd sidestep that if you were logging directly to TangoGPS. That gotcha is definitely a big gotcha. I don't stock windoze computers, so that would be pretty annoying. *Does anyone know of any gps loggers that can be bought for a reasonable amount of money that does NOT use some obscure proprietary file format?* Just to clarify ... the Tracks are OK - they're logged in Nmea format and can be turned into gpx with gpsbabel. The waypoint dumps are in some weird format: Invisibly translated under Windows, with the supplied software, but a bit of a pain with Linux. So you'd only need the windows box for converting the dumps, after mapping. Or if you're plugged into tangoGPS, then no problem, you can just take waypoints in the software directly. Here is the reply from Locosys on 4th March. The conversion can be done by using NAVILINK utility. However NAVILINK only support Windows platform. GPSBabel 1.3.6 does not support the binary format conversion yet. We are checking with GPSbabel author if it is possible to add the feature in next release. So its possible it might be OK by now. Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 920 912 5830 Hong Kong: +852 9100 7586 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] GPS reservation request
Thanks Jim, that is very useful! Will definitely check out one of those converters. I was thinking of simply collecting all the data and process it when we come home to Magalang, but it seems increasingly intriguing to bring a laptop and do edits directly on the road. Do you know if usable packages exit for Ubuntu that can act as a GPS with one of the loggers connected to the USB port? Ronny. Jim Morgan wrote: Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. wrote, On Sunday, 12 July, 2009 11:23 PM: A GPS logger with car charger would be preferable, unless they have battery life of up to two-three days. Please let me know if any are available. I assume you can use these things with Linux (Ubuntu)? The GPS to go units have a pretty good battery life - they seemed to go for well over 24 hours on one charge. In addition they have a USB charger which can be plugged into the cigarette lighter socket in the car. If you're using them with a laptop (linux, tango gps etc), then probably your biggest problem is going to be your laptop battery. In which case I came across a bunch of cheap inverters the other day at CDR-King, which will power any AC 240 volt device in a car. A 100 watt model was about 500 pesos, and a 500 watt version was just over 1000 pesos. Seemed like a good price. They're on the website, but I can't link directly to the page ... just search for inverter in the product search. http://www.cdrking.com.ph/ You'll probably have to go to one of the bigger branches to pick one up. Jim ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] GPS reservation request
Maning, that sounds very cool! I've been wanting to increase awareness there and this could be a good way. I can ask my niece, who's studying in Pampanga Agricultural College if she can spread the word in her class, and maybe get some participants from there, hopefully teachers. But to make it affective, I think at least 1 or 2 of you veterans would be good. Ronny. maning sambale wrote: Hmmm a mapping party in Pampanga? Anyone? On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: Hi guys, We're planning a trip to the Phils and thought it would be a good idea to use the opportunity to do some traces at the same time. It'll be mostly around Magalang, Pampanga, but also in the neighboring towns like Angeles, Dau and hopefully a trip to Mt. Pinatubo (into the crater). I hope to be able to map some unmapped territory while I'm there. I put a reservation request here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/GPStogo_program#Reservation_requests A GPS logger with car charger would be preferable, unless they have battery life of up to two-three days. Please let me know if any are available. I assume you can use these things with Linux (Ubuntu)? The davao guys murlwe and smackcode used the gpstogo units with tangogps: http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/06/diy-gps-navigation-rig.html @ murlwe and smackcode, Is it possible to use the cyclemap instead of the the default osm map within tangogps? That would be a better map to use in pinatubo. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] GPS reservation request
Thanks for the info. I just might buy a cellphone if I can save up for openmoko :) On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Totor Osmtotor_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Opencycle maps can be easily added in TangoGPS (if not available out of the box): goto the config tab, add a new map repostory, and use this URL : http://a.andy.sandbox.cloudmade.com/tiles/cycle/%d/%d/%d.png. Also define a name, and a location for the tile cache Cheers, Totor --- On Mon, 7/13/09, George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com wrote: From: George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] GPS reservation request To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 2:47 AM I don't think you can use the cyclemap in tangoGPS right now (at least not out of the box) however tangoGPS does support maps4free and openaerial. You can use that instead (just press buttons 3 and 4 i think) On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:44 AM, maning sambaleemmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm a mapping party in Pampanga? Anyone? On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: Hi guys, We're planning a trip to the Phils and thought it would be a good idea to use the opportunity to do some traces at the same time. It'll be mostly around Magalang, Pampanga, but also in the neighboring towns like Angeles, Dau and hopefully a trip to Mt. Pinatubo (into the crater). I hope to be able to map some unmapped territory while I'm there. I put a reservation request here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/GPStogo_program#Reservation_requests A GPS logger with car charger would be preferable, unless they have battery life of up to two-three days. Please let me know if any are available. I assume you can use these things with Linux (Ubuntu)? The davao guys murlwe and smackcode used the gpstogo units with tangogps: http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/06/diy-gps-navigation-rig.html @ murlwe and smackcode, Is it possible to use the cyclemap instead of the the default osm map within tangogps? That would be a better map to use in pinatubo. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] GPS reservation request
Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. wrote, On Sunday, 12 July, 2009 11:23 PM: A GPS logger with car charger would be preferable, unless they have battery life of up to two-three days. Please let me know if any are available. I assume you can use these things with Linux (Ubuntu)? The GPS to go units have a pretty good battery life - they seemed to go for well over 24 hours on one charge. In addition they have a USB charger which can be plugged into the cigarette lighter socket in the car. If you're using them with a laptop (linux, tango gps etc), then probably your biggest problem is going to be your laptop battery. In which case I came across a bunch of cheap inverters the other day at CDR-King, which will power any AC 240 volt device in a car. A 100 watt model was about 500 pesos, and a 500 watt version was just over 1000 pesos. Seemed like a good price. They're on the website, but I can't link directly to the page ... just search for inverter in the product search. http://www.cdrking.com.ph/ You'll probably have to go to one of the bigger branches to pick one up. Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 920 912 5830 Hong Kong: +852 9100 7586 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] GPS reservation request
Hmmm a mapping party in Pampanga? Anyone? On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.r...@develo.ltd.uk wrote: Hi guys, We're planning a trip to the Phils and thought it would be a good idea to use the opportunity to do some traces at the same time. It'll be mostly around Magalang, Pampanga, but also in the neighboring towns like Angeles, Dau and hopefully a trip to Mt. Pinatubo (into the crater). I hope to be able to map some unmapped territory while I'm there. I put a reservation request here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/GPStogo_program#Reservation_requests A GPS logger with car charger would be preferable, unless they have battery life of up to two-three days. Please let me know if any are available. I assume you can use these things with Linux (Ubuntu)? The davao guys murlwe and smackcode used the gpstogo units with tangogps: http://mapping.ideacampdavao.com/2009/06/diy-gps-navigation-rig.html @ murlwe and smackcode, Is it possible to use the cyclemap instead of the the default osm map within tangogps? That would be a better map to use in pinatubo. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
