Re: [talk-ph] MAJOR PROBLEM in San Fernando, Pampanga portion
Jun, thanks for this very useful info. It's clearly too long since I've been there. Since you're the one with the most current information fresh in your head, could you edit this intersection to reflect reality, and maybe also include u-turn slots to make it easier for routing software to figure out where to go? I'd love to do it, but I'm reluctant to edit based on description only and not first hand knowledge. Ronny. Jun Martin wrote: Hi, Ronny, Maning, and others, Re: DOLORES Junction/Intersection, one cannot pass under the flyover if going from SouthEast to Northwest. One needs to turn right (Northeastwards) and then make a U-turn. Likewise, one cannot go through it, going from Northeast to Southwest along Olongapo-Gapan Road. This setup was successful in preventing traffic build-up at said junction. BTW, the opposite directions (NW -> SE, SW -> NE) are open to traffic, but SW -> NE is mostly used by PUV's that want to pick up passengers at Jollibee. Apologies for the delayed response about this. Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. wrote: Something that strikes me as odd here is that it seems impossible to go north on MacArthur through this intersection. I am pretty sure I've gone north there myself on several occasions, but it's a while ago aand I'm back in London now so I can't verify. Can someone local verify this? Also, I'm pretty sure you can turn left as well (under the viaduct), right? Ronny. maning sambale wrote: junsamboy and others, I edited the San Fernando area for a lot of obvious errors: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2593646 Mostly these area: - untagged ways - unconnected highways - duplicate nodes - overlapping highways I think it requires several more passes because I may have missed other errors. Don't worry jun and ingguana, these errors are natural for new areas. We can improve on it as we learn the ropes. So I appeal to other osm-ph members, maybe we can help the san fernando contributors improve the data. Please have a brief look and correct the obvious errors. The most common are unconnected intersections. This is very important for routing. A critical road intersection is the olongapo-gapan-macarthur intersection: http://osm.org/go/4zO2B2C9f-- On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:03 AM, maning sambale wrote: OK On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Jun Martin wrote: maning sambale wrote: OK, so we can override his edits then. I'll try fix a few in the coming days. Thanks. I would be good if he can cite his source using the source tag. Oh please invite ingguana to the talk-ph list. I've relayed this to ingguana. I hope he responds favorably. -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] MAJOR PROBLEM in San Fernando, Pampanga portion
Can ingguana be specific with his "misalignment with the maps"? What map is mentioned here? On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Jun Martin wrote: > Hi, Maning and others, > > ingguana wrote back: >> >> Jun, >> >> Looks like I had a misalignment with the maps I used. I will try to do >> a restore of the previous file. I am using JOSM for my edits. Yes I am >> MGDanting. >> >> Marc >> > Looks like a restore would be best in this situation. > > maning sambale wrote: >> junsamboy and others, >> >> I edited the San Fernando area for a lot of obvious errors: >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2593646 >> >> Mostly these area: >> - untagged ways >> - unconnected highways >> - duplicate nodes >> - overlapping highways >> >> I think it requires several more passes because I may have missed >> other errors. Don't worry jun and ingguana, these errors are natural >> for new areas. We can improve on it as we learn the ropes. >> >> So I appeal to other osm-ph members, maybe we can help the san >> fernando contributors improve the data. Please have a brief look and >> correct the obvious errors. The most common are unconnected >> intersections. This is very important for routing. >> >> A critical road intersection is the olongapo-gapan-macarthur intersection: >> http://osm.org/go/4zO2B2C9f-- >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:03 AM, maning sambale >> wrote: >> >>> OK >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Jun Martin wrote: >>> maning sambale wrote: > OK, so we can override his edits then. I'll try fix a few in the coming > days. > > Thanks. > I would be good if he can cite his source using the source tag. > > Oh please invite ingguana to the talk-ph list. > > > I've relayed this to ingguana. I hope he responds favorably. >>> >>> -- >>> cheers, >>> maning >>> -- >>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >>> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >>> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >>> -- >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] MAJOR PROBLEM in San Fernando, Pampanga portion
Yeah, it's messy. I didn't touch because I don't know what's actually on the ground. Only local mappers can edit that intersection On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd. wrote: > Something that strikes me as odd here is that it seems impossible to go > north on MacArthur through this intersection. I am pretty sure I've gone > north there myself on several occasions, but it's a while ago aand I'm back > in London now so I can't verify. > Can someone local verify this? > Also, I'm pretty sure you can turn left as well (under the viaduct), right? > Ronny. > > maning sambale wrote: > > junsamboy and others, > > I edited the San Fernando area for a lot of obvious errors: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2593646 > > Mostly these area: > - untagged ways > - unconnected highways > - duplicate nodes > - overlapping highways > > I think it requires several more passes because I may have missed > other errors. Don't worry jun and ingguana, these errors are natural > for new areas. We can improve on it as we learn the ropes. > > So I appeal to other osm-ph members, maybe we can help the san > fernando contributors improve the data. Please have a brief look and > correct the obvious errors. The most common are unconnected > intersections. This is very important for routing. > > A critical road intersection is the olongapo-gapan-macarthur intersection: > http://osm.org/go/4zO2B2C9f-- > > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:03 AM, maning sambale > wrote: > > > OK > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Jun Martin wrote: > > > maning sambale wrote: > > > OK, so we can override his edits then. I'll try fix a few in the coming > days. > > > > Thanks. > > > I would be good if he can cite his source using the source tag. > > Oh please invite ingguana to the talk-ph list. > > > > > I've relayed this to ingguana. I hope he responds favorably. > > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > > > > > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] MAJOR PROBLEM in San Fernando, Pampanga portion
Something that strikes me as odd here is that it seems impossible to go north on MacArthur through this intersection. I am pretty sure I've gone north there myself on several occasions, but it's a while ago aand I'm back in London now so I can't verify. Can someone local verify this? Also, I'm pretty sure you can turn left as well (under the viaduct), right? Ronny. maning sambale wrote: junsamboy and others, I edited the San Fernando area for a lot of obvious errors: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2593646 Mostly these area: - untagged ways - unconnected highways - duplicate nodes - overlapping highways I think it requires several more passes because I may have missed other errors. Don't worry jun and ingguana, these errors are natural for new areas. We can improve on it as we learn the ropes. So I appeal to other osm-ph members, maybe we can help the san fernando contributors improve the data. Please have a brief look and correct the obvious errors. The most common are unconnected intersections. This is very important for routing. A critical road intersection is the olongapo-gapan-macarthur intersection: http://osm.org/go/4zO2B2C9f-- On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:03 AM, maning sambale wrote: OK On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Jun Martin wrote: maning sambale wrote: OK, so we can override his edits then. I'll try fix a few in the coming days. Thanks. I would be good if he can cite his source using the source tag. Oh please invite ingguana to the talk-ph list. I've relayed this to ingguana. I hope he responds favorably. -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] MAJOR PROBLEM in San Fernando, Pampanga portion
junsamboy and others, I edited the San Fernando area for a lot of obvious errors: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2593646 Mostly these area: - untagged ways - unconnected highways - duplicate nodes - overlapping highways I think it requires several more passes because I may have missed other errors. Don't worry jun and ingguana, these errors are natural for new areas. We can improve on it as we learn the ropes. So I appeal to other osm-ph members, maybe we can help the san fernando contributors improve the data. Please have a brief look and correct the obvious errors. The most common are unconnected intersections. This is very important for routing. A critical road intersection is the olongapo-gapan-macarthur intersection: http://osm.org/go/4zO2B2C9f-- On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:03 AM, maning sambale wrote: > OK > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Jun Martin wrote: >> maning sambale wrote: >>> OK, so we can override his edits then. I'll try fix a few in the coming >>> days. >>> >> Thanks. >>> I would be good if he can cite his source using the source tag. >>> >>> Oh please invite ingguana to the talk-ph list. >>> >>> >> I've relayed this to ingguana. I hope he responds favorably. >> >> > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] MAJOR PROBLEM in San Fernando, Pampanga portion
I am reluctant to be a moderator, besides, it is nearly impossible to moderate OSM. :) Just give him/her a sober message via the osm website. > BTW, do you use googletalk? I added you already. Gtalk is disabled in my machine. goodluck! I will edit obvious errors (duplicated nodes, overklapping highways) later. Btw, great work in San Fernando (you, ingguana and ianlopez) -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] MAJOR PROBLEM in San Fernando, Pampanga portion
There are two active editors around this area: junsamboy - I assume thats you ingguana Looking at the history: http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=120.4879%2C14.8881%2C120.8574%2C15.2011 It seems ingguana edited yesterday with the changeset comment "more accurate ways in san fernando " Moreover, I didn't see any uploaded gps traces from both users. I suggest you upload your traces as a basis if you think this is more updated and accurate than the yahoo imagery. Of course, you should send ingguana a message. On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:18 AM, maning sambale wrote: > send me the tracklog, I'll look at it tonight > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Jun Martin wrote: >> This morning, as I was about to edit a newly uploaded tracklog for San >> Fernando Subdivision in San Fernando, Pampanga, I noticed that some >> nearby roads had been shifted away from their correct position. >> >> I have edited/corrected several roads but as I did, I realized that all >> the adjoining roads had been shifted away from their correct positions >> (!), and so I have stopped editing/correcting. >> >> Anybody know how this BULK shifting happened? >> >> Can somebody undo it, please, to save us from the tedious task of having >> to correct all the errors? >> >> Jun >> >> > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] MAJOR PROBLEM in San Fernando, Pampanga portion
send me the tracklog, I'll look at it tonight On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Jun Martin wrote: > This morning, as I was about to edit a newly uploaded tracklog for San > Fernando Subdivision in San Fernando, Pampanga, I noticed that some > nearby roads had been shifted away from their correct position. > > I have edited/corrected several roads but as I did, I realized that all > the adjoining roads had been shifted away from their correct positions > (!), and so I have stopped editing/correcting. > > Anybody know how this BULK shifting happened? > > Can somebody undo it, please, to save us from the tedious task of having > to correct all the errors? > > Jun > > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] MAJOR PROBLEM in San Fernando, Pampanga portion
This morning, as I was about to edit a newly uploaded tracklog for San Fernando Subdivision in San Fernando, Pampanga, I noticed that some nearby roads had been shifted away from their correct position. I have edited/corrected several roads but as I did, I realized that all the adjoining roads had been shifted away from their correct positions (!), and so I have stopped editing/correcting. Anybody know how this BULK shifting happened? Can somebody undo it, please, to save us from the tedious task of having to correct all the errors? Jun ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
