Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011
Hi, A synopsis of the discussion during the hackday. @ eugene, rally, rem and jc, please add anything I missed. Overview === The OSMPHGPS project was started by Maning 3 years ago (Jan 2008) as a demonstration of what the OSM data can offer to the pinoy mapping community. Personally, I created the garmin maps because I own a garmin device and saw the oppurtunity to recruit mappers for OSM. On the recruitment front, I'm proud to say that the garmin map did in fact able to solicit contributions from garmin users. Recognizing this contribution to OSM as a whole, it was decided that the project should continue not as my personal project but more as a community resource where everyone can contribute and improve upon. In the words of Eugene, "I think the OSMPH community as a whole has a stake in the OSMPH Garmin Map to make it the best "product" of the community." Hence, from hereon, the osmphgps is now an OSMPH Org project. In the coming weeks/months we will start to move the download links from my personal wepspace to the org website (http://openstreetmap.org.ph). In a way, this helps promote our local chapter as well. Part of the plan is to involve other community members in the compilation of the map. At the moment, two (rally and maning) are directly involved. We need more people to participate, this is the prime reason of organizing the hackday last Feb 18, 2010. During the discussions, we tackled several components of the map compilation and outlined some further development points. No actual code was committed that night but I think we have outlined a good framework in the future development of the garmin maps. Highlights of the discussion are as follows: OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011 People attended: maning, eugene, rally, rem, jayzee Map compilation process - All existing code (styles, typs and build scripts) are available in github (http://github.com/maning/osmphgps). Thus anyone, can fork/clone the repo; customize the styles and; contribute back your modifications to be included in the main map. - The current map is now ~25 MB (and is continuously growing), thus, older garmin devices cannot use our map anymore. We plan to create a generic script so that other garmin users can create smaller maps that will fit older device' storage capacity. Routing === - further work are needed on our routing algorithm, it works for most cases, but we need to document edge cases particularly speed calculations and road class in order to fit them with the PH traffic condition. Rally is doing some tests on this end and it would be very helpful if you (garmin users) can report odd cases of routing problems. City and Street Search == - Last week we started the public distribution of the map with City and street search. In some of my tests, it works, but, lack the robustness of other garmin maps. Sample case: A street is assigned to a single place/"city" depending on the location of the place node. For example, "Street x Y village, Z City" can be found either in in X or Y and not both. The problem is that if there are many place=village or hamlet tags within a City, very few results will come out when using the actual city name. This problem is due to mkgmap's dependence to the is_in tags. A better solution in the long run is to use the admin_level polygons in order to assign cities on streets within the admin polygons. The mkgmap devs are aware of this problem and they are developing a solution to address it. On the mapping side, we encourage you to continue adding admin boundaries so that we can use that data later on. POI audit = - Many POIs are still not included in the garmin map. If you feel a certain POI is important for the gps map let us know. On creating custom maps === - it has been discussed in the talk list on developing custom maps for specific user-groups for starters, we will create a generic outdoor map suited for hikers, MTBers and general outdoor activities. If you have ideas on the design let us know. Using osm.org.ph infrastructure === - In the coming weeks/months download and Q/A forum related to the osmphgps map will be migrated to the osm.org.ph domain. An important note here is that the Q/A forum will be used specifically to general inquiries regarding the garmin map. All mapping related discussions should be in the talk-ph list. All for now. For any ideas don't hesitate to post them in the list. -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011
Here are a couple of pictures I took during the Hackday: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=334135&id=345455082596 On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:49 AM, maning sambale wrote: > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:39 AM, George Tujan wrote: >> But I can't see the beer over irc hehehe. > I'll send you an ascii art of our beer mugs via irc. ;) > >>Just update us on the list. TIA! > Sure, if you have other ideas we should be discussing, just send them here. > >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:23 AM, maning sambale >> wrote: >> >>> hehe. I don't think my bandwidth can cope with that. How about, (ugh!) >>> irc? >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:20 AM, George Tujan wrote: Can you stream the event via ustream? On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:44 AM, maning sambale wrote: > Hi, > > Inviting everyone to a short hackday/hour on Feb 18, 2011. This > meetup is a technical discussion and coding on our beloved OSM-PH > Garmin Map. Much of the discussion will revolve around planning for > the next "phase" of the OSM-PH Garmin map. > > If you have some coding chops, have some ideas on how to improve the > garmin map or simply interested on how to compile your own garmin > maps, we need you there. Bring along your garmin device, your laptop > and your own chips and beer. > > When: Feb 18, 2011. 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM > Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC. > > Send me a private message to confirm. > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> cheers, >>> maning >>> -- >>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >>> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >>> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >>> -- >> > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:39 AM, George Tujan wrote: > But I can't see the beer over irc hehehe. I'll send you an ascii art of our beer mugs via irc. ;) >Just update us on the list. TIA! Sure, if you have other ideas we should be discussing, just send them here. > > > On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:23 AM, maning sambale > wrote: > >> hehe. I don't think my bandwidth can cope with that. How about, (ugh!) irc? >> >> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:20 AM, George Tujan wrote: >>> Can you stream the event via ustream? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:44 AM, maning sambale >>> wrote: >>> Hi, Inviting everyone to a short hackday/hour on Feb 18, 2011. This meetup is a technical discussion and coding on our beloved OSM-PH Garmin Map. Much of the discussion will revolve around planning for the next "phase" of the OSM-PH Garmin map. If you have some coding chops, have some ideas on how to improve the garmin map or simply interested on how to compile your own garmin maps, we need you there. Bring along your garmin device, your laptop and your own chips and beer. When: Feb 18, 2011. 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC. Send me a private message to confirm. -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> cheers, >> maning >> -- >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> -- > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011
But I can't see the beer over irc hehehe. Just update us on the list. TIA! On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:23 AM, maning sambale wrote: > hehe. I don't think my bandwidth can cope with that. How about, (ugh!) irc? > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:20 AM, George Tujan wrote: >> Can you stream the event via ustream? >> >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:44 AM, maning sambale >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Inviting everyone to a short hackday/hour on Feb 18, 2011. This >>> meetup is a technical discussion and coding on our beloved OSM-PH >>> Garmin Map. Much of the discussion will revolve around planning for >>> the next "phase" of the OSM-PH Garmin map. >>> >>> If you have some coding chops, have some ideas on how to improve the >>> garmin map or simply interested on how to compile your own garmin >>> maps, we need you there. Bring along your garmin device, your laptop >>> and your own chips and beer. >>> >>> When: Feb 18, 2011. 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM >>> Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC. >>> >>> Send me a private message to confirm. >>> >>> -- >>> cheers, >>> maning >>> -- >>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >>> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >>> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >>> -- >>> >>> ___ >>> talk-ph mailing list >>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >> > > > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011
hehe. I don't think my bandwidth can cope with that. How about, (ugh!) irc? On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:20 AM, George Tujan wrote: > Can you stream the event via ustream? > > > > On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:44 AM, maning sambale > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Inviting everyone to a short hackday/hour on Feb 18, 2011. This >> meetup is a technical discussion and coding on our beloved OSM-PH >> Garmin Map. Much of the discussion will revolve around planning for >> the next "phase" of the OSM-PH Garmin map. >> >> If you have some coding chops, have some ideas on how to improve the >> garmin map or simply interested on how to compile your own garmin >> maps, we need you there. Bring along your garmin device, your laptop >> and your own chips and beer. >> >> When: Feb 18, 2011. 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM >> Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC. >> >> Send me a private message to confirm. >> >> -- >> cheers, >> maning >> -- >> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ >> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >> -- >> >> ___ >> talk-ph mailing list >> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph > -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011
Can you stream the event via ustream? On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:44 AM, maning sambale wrote: > Hi, > > Inviting everyone to a short hackday/hour on Feb 18, 2011. This > meetup is a technical discussion and coding on our beloved OSM-PH > Garmin Map. Much of the discussion will revolve around planning for > the next "phase" of the OSM-PH Garmin map. > > If you have some coding chops, have some ideas on how to improve the > garmin map or simply interested on how to compile your own garmin > maps, we need you there. Bring along your garmin device, your laptop > and your own chips and beer. > > When: Feb 18, 2011. 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM > Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC. > > Send me a private message to confirm. > > -- > cheers, > maning > -- > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ > -- > > ___ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:44 AM, maning sambale wrote: > Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC. Where: ADMU Campus, Katipunan Road, QC. -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011
Hi, Inviting everyone to a short hackday/hour on Feb 18, 2011. This meetup is a technical discussion and coding on our beloved OSM-PH Garmin Map. Much of the discussion will revolve around planning for the next "phase" of the OSM-PH Garmin map. If you have some coding chops, have some ideas on how to improve the garmin map or simply interested on how to compile your own garmin maps, we need you there. Bring along your garmin device, your laptop and your own chips and beer. When: Feb 18, 2011. 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC. Send me a private message to confirm. -- cheers, maning -- "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
