Re: [talk-ph] OSM contributions - some basics for a newby

[Erwin Olario]

I wouldn't recommend contacting anyone directly as it might be considered
an imposition, but there are many ways public channels to try getting in
touch with fellow mappers, and where others can pitch in to respond:

   - the official mailing list (this one) - talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
   - if you're on FB, check out: fb.com/OSMph/group
   - OSMph has a Slack channel - https://osmph-chat.herokuapp.com/
   - and then, there's the international forum at
   https://forum.openstreetmap.org
   - discussions can also happen at the changeset level.

/Erwin

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:36 PM Glen Scott  wrote:

> Thanks Erwin, all noted.
>
> I'm sure I'll have further questions on conventions or even basic editing
> queries - is it best to ask here or via personal email, and if the latter,
> who should I ask?
>
> I've seen the PH conventions page, and finding it useful (e.g. tagging
> fish farm pond "water") but one example where I'm not 100% clear would be
> the pond dividers, where I see there are a few techniques in use, well at
> least two (a) leaving some land between the ponds, and (b) making one large
> pond and dividing it with lines tagged as embankments.  I see both in use;
> my attempts so far have been to leave strips of land, though the embankment
> line approach would be quicker.
>
> Cheers
>
> Glen
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Erwin Olario  wrote:
>
>> Hi Glen. Thank you for your edits. We're happy to have you.
>>
>> Google's StreetView, unfortunately, shares a similar restriction to its
>> Map service, and also not a valid source of information. I recently [0] had
>> to redact data that was added from the map, that used this source for their
>> edits.
>>
>> MapCentral, and any other copyright restricted sources, cannot also be
>> used. Either you collection this information yourself (an excellent
>> opportunity to stretch the legs, and get to know the neighborhood better),
>> or convince the data owners to re-publish this data on OSM.
>>
>> In lieu of StreetView, you might like to try out Mapillary[1] or
>> OpenStreetCam [2] to capture street-level imagery yourself.
>>
>> /Erwin
>>
>> [0]: https://github.com/OSMPH/papercut_fix/issues/35
>> [1]:
>> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=map=15.91667=120.3=10
>> 
>> [2]: http://openstreetcam.org/map/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:42 AM Glen Scott  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm making some contributions to NW Pangasinan (I'm from Australia, my
>>> wife is from Alaminos) and would like to discuss some "rules" and seek some
>>> advice...
>>>
>>> I think I may have already broken one rule re road tagging, but not
>>> using the tag "service road" since that has a different use here.  But
>>> having found the Philippines conventions page I promise to fix those
>>> indiscretions in time...
>>>
>>> One question is around legitimate information sources - I understand
>>> Google Maps can't be used - but can street view be used (great for seeing
>>> the name of auditoriums etc.)?
>>>
>>> Can Mapcentral be used for Barangay names and borders or is there a
>>> better source?  I see the Mapcentral borders differ considerably to the
>>> Google Maps borders.
>>>
>>> I've sent one email to Alaminos City town hall re street names - no
>>> response to date but will give them a call of I don't hear from them over
>>> the next week.  Any other sources of street names?  Post office?  I'll be
>>> there next March and can always ask people on the street, though some of
>>> the streets in new sub-divisions don't appear to have houses yet
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Glen
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>>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
>>>
>> --
>>
>> /Erwin Olario
>>
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>> https://mstdn.io/@GOwin
>>
>
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Re: [talk-ph] OSM contributions - some basics for a newby

[Glen Scott]

Thanks Erwin, all noted.

I'm sure I'll have further questions on conventions or even basic editing
queries - is it best to ask here or via personal email, and if the latter,
who should I ask?

I've seen the PH conventions page, and finding it useful (e.g. tagging fish
farm pond "water") but one example where I'm not 100% clear would be the
pond dividers, where I see there are a few techniques in use, well at least
two (a) leaving some land between the ponds, and (b) making one large pond
and dividing it with lines tagged as embankments.  I see both in use; my
attempts so far have been to leave strips of land, though the embankment
line approach would be quicker.

Cheers

Glen



On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Erwin Olario  wrote:

> Hi Glen. Thank you for your edits. We're happy to have you.
>
> Google's StreetView, unfortunately, shares a similar restriction to its
> Map service, and also not a valid source of information. I recently [0] had
> to redact data that was added from the map, that used this source for their
> edits.
>
> MapCentral, and any other copyright restricted sources, cannot also be
> used. Either you collection this information yourself (an excellent
> opportunity to stretch the legs, and get to know the neighborhood better),
> or convince the data owners to re-publish this data on OSM.
>
> In lieu of StreetView, you might like to try out Mapillary[1] or
> OpenStreetCam [2] to capture street-level imagery yourself.
>
> /Erwin
>
> [0]: https://github.com/OSMPH/papercut_fix/issues/35
> [1]: https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=map=15.91667=
> 120.3=10 
> [2]: http://openstreetcam.org/map/
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:42 AM Glen Scott  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm making some contributions to NW Pangasinan (I'm from Australia, my
>> wife is from Alaminos) and would like to discuss some "rules" and seek some
>> advice...
>>
>> I think I may have already broken one rule re road tagging, but not using
>> the tag "service road" since that has a different use here.  But having
>> found the Philippines conventions page I promise to fix those indiscretions
>> in time...
>>
>> One question is around legitimate information sources - I understand
>> Google Maps can't be used - but can street view be used (great for seeing
>> the name of auditoriums etc.)?
>>
>> Can Mapcentral be used for Barangay names and borders or is there a
>> better source?  I see the Mapcentral borders differ considerably to the
>> Google Maps borders.
>>
>> I've sent one email to Alaminos City town hall re street names - no
>> response to date but will give them a call of I don't hear from them over
>> the next week.  Any other sources of street names?  Post office?  I'll be
>> there next March and can always ask people on the street, though some of
>> the streets in new sub-divisions don't appear to have houses yet
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Glen
>> ___
>> talk-ph mailing list
>> talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
>>
> --
>
> /Erwin Olario
>
> e: er...@ngnuity.xyz | v/m: https://t.me/GOwin | s:
> https://mstdn.io/@GOwin
>
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Re: [talk-ph] OSM contributions - some basics for a newby

[Erwin Olario]

Hi Glen. Thank you for your edits. We're happy to have you.

Google's StreetView, unfortunately, shares a similar restriction to its Map
service, and also not a valid source of information. I recently [0] had to
redact data that was added from the map, that used this source for their
edits.

MapCentral, and any other copyright restricted sources, cannot also be
used. Either you collection this information yourself (an excellent
opportunity to stretch the legs, and get to know the neighborhood better),
or convince the data owners to re-publish this data on OSM.

In lieu of StreetView, you might like to try out Mapillary[1] or
OpenStreetCam [2] to capture street-level imagery yourself.

/Erwin

[0]: https://github.com/OSMPH/papercut_fix/issues/35
[1]:
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?focus=map=15.91667=120.3=10

[2]: http://openstreetcam.org/map/




On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 10:42 AM Glen Scott  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm making some contributions to NW Pangasinan (I'm from Australia, my
> wife is from Alaminos) and would like to discuss some "rules" and seek some
> advice...
>
> I think I may have already broken one rule re road tagging, but not using
> the tag "service road" since that has a different use here.  But having
> found the Philippines conventions page I promise to fix those indiscretions
> in time...
>
> One question is around legitimate information sources - I understand
> Google Maps can't be used - but can street view be used (great for seeing
> the name of auditoriums etc.)?
>
> Can Mapcentral be used for Barangay names and borders or is there a better
> source?  I see the Mapcentral borders differ considerably to the Google
> Maps borders.
>
> I've sent one email to Alaminos City town hall re street names - no
> response to date but will give them a call of I don't hear from them over
> the next week.  Any other sources of street names?  Post office?  I'll be
> there next March and can always ask people on the street, though some of
> the streets in new sub-divisions don't appear to have houses yet
>
> Regards
>
> Glen
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>
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[talk-ph] OSM contributions - some basics for a newby

[Glen Scott]

Hi,

I'm making some contributions to NW Pangasinan (I'm from Australia, my wife
is from Alaminos) and would like to discuss some "rules" and seek some
advice...

I think I may have already broken one rule re road tagging, but not using
the tag "service road" since that has a different use here.  But having
found the Philippines conventions page I promise to fix those indiscretions
in time...

One question is around legitimate information sources - I understand Google
Maps can't be used - but can street view be used (great for seeing the name
of auditoriums etc.)?

Can Mapcentral be used for Barangay names and borders or is there a better
source?  I see the Mapcentral borders differ considerably to the Google
Maps borders.

I've sent one email to Alaminos City town hall re street names - no
response to date but will give them a call of I don't hear from them over
the next week.  Any other sources of street names?  Post office?  I'll be
there next March and can always ask people on the street, though some of
the streets in new sub-divisions don't appear to have houses yet

Regards

Glen
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