Re: [talk-ph] Batangas City data cleanup

2017-04-17 Thread Ervin Malicdem
Thanks for the info, Jherome.

This should be fixed now. Unless I still bypassed something.
Found about 7 buildings with valid names in history and reverted them in
addition with the fixes on 47891655.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47893705

Ervin M.
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motherland.
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On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Jherome Miguel 
wrote:

> Her first edits are building additions in the southern coastal areas of
> Batangas City, that is (San Isidro, Tabangao-Ambulong, Pinamucan Proper,
> Simlong, Mabacong, Pagkilatan, Ilijan, Dela Paz Pulot Aplaya, and other
> barangays). After the NOAH-ISAIAH HOT tasks ended, she possibly returned
> back to mapping for the Batangas City LGU (City Government of Batangas),
> through the City Planning and Development Office  (CPDO), and adding
> building classification like commercial and residential are possibly part
> of CPDO's mapping task.
>
>  I do not know the affiliation with the Batangas City LGU of other users I
> listed on one diary entry (http://www.openstreetmap.org/
> user/TagaSanPedroAko/diary/40706) I posted, but "crops production" is
> perhaps mapping for the Office of the City Veterinarian and Agricultural
> Services  (OCVAS). One account is connected with OCVAS ("OCVAS R&DC).
> Brad-M, EDGF, "digmaan" and EAA22 is possibly mapping for the CPDO also,
> with EDGF and "digmaan" concentrating on rural area mapping (schools, local
> government, roads, buildings, water supply), possibly part of a mapping
> task by CPDO for rural development. "gberts" however, may be a local, but
> have to know any possible connections with the Batangas City LGU or even
> the Batangas provincial government.
>
> I also take part on the cleanup, but I have other tasks along, like local
> updates (new/closed businesses, new buildings, road updates) and mapping
> power infrastructure (Meralco subtransmission lines, distribution lines and
> substations, NGCP'S 230 kV and 69 kV lines and substations, and power
> plants).
>
> --TagaSanPedroAko
>
> On Apr 18, 2017 1:20 PM, "Ervin Malicdem"  wrote:
>
>> Apologies. What I have done was to delete the name and landuse tags of
>> buildings that have no shop and amenity tags and with a name of
>> "residential" and "commercial".
>>
>>  And those with shop and amenity tags were manually reverted with those
>> that have previous names in their history.
>>
>> I overlooked those buildings that have a name but does not have any shop
>> and amenity tags.
>>
>> So more likely those that needed to still be fixed are those buildings
>> that have no shop and amenity tags that previously have a name.
>>
>> As per the training. Due to the use of JOSM, possibly she was trained by
>> those who attended NOAH's OSM training for Batangas-Aurora-Cavite LGUs last
>> November 4, 2016 due to the fact that her first edit was already at the end
>> of the NOAH initiative of OSM mapping (last day of mapping initiative was
>> February 24. Her first edit was Feb 27). Unfortunately, I can't speak for
>> the training module during that time as I was in Tacloban.
>>
>> Ervin M.
>> *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own
>> motherland.
>> http://www.s1expeditions.com
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ervin,
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, you did not really fix her edits. What you should have
>>> done instead of doing a wholesale removal of the name=* and landuse=* tags
>>> is to check what are the existing tags that were overwritten by the user.
>>>
>>> For example, you "fixed" way 360903949 by removing the name=* and
>>> landuse=* tags. But what you should have done instead is to check the
>>> history and restored the old name=Vicmar Plaza tag.
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/360903949/history
>>>
>>> I am afraid that we will also need to clean-up *your* edits as well.
>>>
>>> ~Eugene
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Ervin Malicdem 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Fixed "her" edits for the meantime.
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47891655

 Ervin M.
 *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own
 motherland.
 http://www.s1expeditions.com

 On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar >>> > wrote:

> Ouch. This user's edits are very messy. Can you confirm that the user
> has never replied to any message or changeset comment you did? If so, 
> maybe
> we can ask the Data Working Group to block the user until the user has 
> read
> the block message.
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Jherome Miguel <
> jheromemig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Batangas City needs to be cleaned up, as the data there is becoming
>> affected (some POI's are being affected). Most edits are being done on
>> weekdays (except holidays), and most of the users are possibly city
>> government employees, which hav

Re: [talk-ph] Batangas City data cleanup

2017-04-17 Thread Ervin Malicdem
Apologies. What I have done was to delete the name and landuse tags of
buildings that have no shop and amenity tags and with a name of
"residential" and "commercial".

 And those with shop and amenity tags were manually reverted with those
that have previous names in their history.

I overlooked those buildings that have a name but does not have any shop
and amenity tags.

So more likely those that needed to still be fixed are those buildings that
have no shop and amenity tags that previously have a name.

As per the training. Due to the use of JOSM, possibly she was trained by
those who attended NOAH's OSM training for Batangas-Aurora-Cavite LGUs last
November 4, 2016 due to the fact that her first edit was already at the end
of the NOAH initiative of OSM mapping (last day of mapping initiative was
February 24. Her first edit was Feb 27). Unfortunately, I can't speak for
the training module during that time as I was in Tacloban.

Ervin M.
*Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own
motherland.
http://www.s1expeditions.com

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
wrote:

> Hi Ervin,
>
> Unfortunately, you did not really fix her edits. What you should have done
> instead of doing a wholesale removal of the name=* and landuse=* tags is to
> check what are the existing tags that were overwritten by the user.
>
> For example, you "fixed" way 360903949 by removing the name=* and
> landuse=* tags. But what you should have done instead is to check the
> history and restored the old name=Vicmar Plaza tag.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/360903949/history
>
> I am afraid that we will also need to clean-up *your* edits as well.
>
> ~Eugene
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Ervin Malicdem 
> wrote:
>
>> Fixed "her" edits for the meantime.
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47891655
>>
>> Ervin M.
>> *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own
>> motherland.
>> http://www.s1expeditions.com
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ouch. This user's edits are very messy. Can you confirm that the user
>>> has never replied to any message or changeset comment you did? If so, maybe
>>> we can ask the Data Working Group to block the user until the user has read
>>> the block message.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Jherome Miguel <
>>> jheromemig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Batangas City needs to be cleaned up, as the data there is becoming
 affected (some POI's are being affected). Most edits are being done on
 weekdays (except holidays), and most of the users are possibly city
 government employees, which have not disclosed their editing background. I
 messaged those users or commented on several changesets they did, but they
 still do not reply. There are too many data already edited for one user to
 cleanup, and other mappers should do.

 Here are tasks for Batangas City:

 1. Monitor latest edits by local users. Please keep a monitor on
 changesets around Batangas City, and closely inspect map data being edited,
 then do the appropriate action (clean-up tags, message user, revert to a
 previous version, or leave it alone). Priority is edits by
 "imeeperezveedor" (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/imeeperezveedor),
 that I have a hard time to deal with that user's edits, as it repeatedly
 touched several POI's, and renamed them to "commercial". A few POIs and
 named buildings affected by that user's changesets include Jollibee
 (Kumintang Ilaya branch), BPI (Batangas City Jose P Laurel Highway branch),
 BDO (Batangas Rizal Avenue branch), STI Academic Center Batangas, Nuciti
 Central, Boy Scouts of the Philippines Batangas City Council, Imperial
 Appliance Plaza, N.J. Dimaano Building, Recto and Ofelia Buildings A and B,
 Junction Commercial Complex, Dayton Hotel, and Reyes Haircutters.

 2. Cleanup data touched in previous changesets. Cleanup possible
 redundant tags or replace them with an appropriate tag. Revert name changes
 to existing POI's occupying buildings, and named buildings (mostly done by
 "imeeperezveedor".)

 Thanks,
 TagaSanPedroAko

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Re: [talk-ph] Batangas City data cleanup

2017-04-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
By the way, it seems the user is on Facebook and it says there that she is
with Batangas City's City Planning and Development Office (CPDO):
https://www.facebook.com/imeeperez.veedor

What I'm surprised with is she is using JOSM. This is not a typical
first-user editor so she must have been trained on using JOSM somewhere by
someone.

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
wrote:

> Ouch. This user's edits are very messy. Can you confirm that the user has
> never replied to any message or changeset comment you did? If so, maybe we
> can ask the Data Working Group to block the user until the user has read
> the block message.
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Jherome Miguel 
> wrote:
>
>> Batangas City needs to be cleaned up, as the data there is becoming
>> affected (some POI's are being affected). Most edits are being done on
>> weekdays (except holidays), and most of the users are possibly city
>> government employees, which have not disclosed their editing background. I
>> messaged those users or commented on several changesets they did, but they
>> still do not reply. There are too many data already edited for one user to
>> cleanup, and other mappers should do.
>>
>> Here are tasks for Batangas City:
>>
>> 1. Monitor latest edits by local users. Please keep a monitor on
>> changesets around Batangas City, and closely inspect map data being edited,
>> then do the appropriate action (clean-up tags, message user, revert to a
>> previous version, or leave it alone). Priority is edits by
>> "imeeperezveedor" (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/imeeperezveedor),
>> that I have a hard time to deal with that user's edits, as it repeatedly
>> touched several POI's, and renamed them to "commercial". A few POIs and
>> named buildings affected by that user's changesets include Jollibee
>> (Kumintang Ilaya branch), BPI (Batangas City Jose P Laurel Highway branch),
>> BDO (Batangas Rizal Avenue branch), STI Academic Center Batangas, Nuciti
>> Central, Boy Scouts of the Philippines Batangas City Council, Imperial
>> Appliance Plaza, N.J. Dimaano Building, Recto and Ofelia Buildings A and B,
>> Junction Commercial Complex, Dayton Hotel, and Reyes Haircutters.
>>
>> 2. Cleanup data touched in previous changesets. Cleanup possible
>> redundant tags or replace them with an appropriate tag. Revert name changes
>> to existing POI's occupying buildings, and named buildings (mostly done by
>> "imeeperezveedor".)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> TagaSanPedroAko
>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Batangas City data cleanup

2017-04-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi Ervin,

Unfortunately, you did not really fix her edits. What you should have done
instead of doing a wholesale removal of the name=* and landuse=* tags is to
check what are the existing tags that were overwritten by the user.

For example, you "fixed" way 360903949 by removing the name=* and landuse=*
tags. But what you should have done instead is to check the history and
restored the old name=Vicmar Plaza tag.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/360903949/history

I am afraid that we will also need to clean-up *your* edits as well.

~Eugene


On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:24 PM, Ervin Malicdem  wrote:

> Fixed "her" edits for the meantime.
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47891655
>
> Ervin M.
> *Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own
> motherland.
> http://www.s1expeditions.com
>
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
> wrote:
>
>> Ouch. This user's edits are very messy. Can you confirm that the user has
>> never replied to any message or changeset comment you did? If so, maybe we
>> can ask the Data Working Group to block the user until the user has read
>> the block message.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Jherome Miguel > > wrote:
>>
>>> Batangas City needs to be cleaned up, as the data there is becoming
>>> affected (some POI's are being affected). Most edits are being done on
>>> weekdays (except holidays), and most of the users are possibly city
>>> government employees, which have not disclosed their editing background. I
>>> messaged those users or commented on several changesets they did, but they
>>> still do not reply. There are too many data already edited for one user to
>>> cleanup, and other mappers should do.
>>>
>>> Here are tasks for Batangas City:
>>>
>>> 1. Monitor latest edits by local users. Please keep a monitor on
>>> changesets around Batangas City, and closely inspect map data being edited,
>>> then do the appropriate action (clean-up tags, message user, revert to a
>>> previous version, or leave it alone). Priority is edits by
>>> "imeeperezveedor" (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/imeeperezveedor),
>>> that I have a hard time to deal with that user's edits, as it repeatedly
>>> touched several POI's, and renamed them to "commercial". A few POIs and
>>> named buildings affected by that user's changesets include Jollibee
>>> (Kumintang Ilaya branch), BPI (Batangas City Jose P Laurel Highway branch),
>>> BDO (Batangas Rizal Avenue branch), STI Academic Center Batangas, Nuciti
>>> Central, Boy Scouts of the Philippines Batangas City Council, Imperial
>>> Appliance Plaza, N.J. Dimaano Building, Recto and Ofelia Buildings A and B,
>>> Junction Commercial Complex, Dayton Hotel, and Reyes Haircutters.
>>>
>>> 2. Cleanup data touched in previous changesets. Cleanup possible
>>> redundant tags or replace them with an appropriate tag. Revert name changes
>>> to existing POI's occupying buildings, and named buildings (mostly done by
>>> "imeeperezveedor".)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> TagaSanPedroAko
>>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Batangas City data cleanup

2017-04-17 Thread Ervin Malicdem
Fixed "her" edits for the meantime.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/47891655

Ervin M.
*Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own
motherland.
http://www.s1expeditions.com

On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
wrote:

> Ouch. This user's edits are very messy. Can you confirm that the user has
> never replied to any message or changeset comment you did? If so, maybe we
> can ask the Data Working Group to block the user until the user has read
> the block message.
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Jherome Miguel 
> wrote:
>
>> Batangas City needs to be cleaned up, as the data there is becoming
>> affected (some POI's are being affected). Most edits are being done on
>> weekdays (except holidays), and most of the users are possibly city
>> government employees, which have not disclosed their editing background. I
>> messaged those users or commented on several changesets they did, but they
>> still do not reply. There are too many data already edited for one user to
>> cleanup, and other mappers should do.
>>
>> Here are tasks for Batangas City:
>>
>> 1. Monitor latest edits by local users. Please keep a monitor on
>> changesets around Batangas City, and closely inspect map data being edited,
>> then do the appropriate action (clean-up tags, message user, revert to a
>> previous version, or leave it alone). Priority is edits by
>> "imeeperezveedor" (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/imeeperezveedor),
>> that I have a hard time to deal with that user's edits, as it repeatedly
>> touched several POI's, and renamed them to "commercial". A few POIs and
>> named buildings affected by that user's changesets include Jollibee
>> (Kumintang Ilaya branch), BPI (Batangas City Jose P Laurel Highway branch),
>> BDO (Batangas Rizal Avenue branch), STI Academic Center Batangas, Nuciti
>> Central, Boy Scouts of the Philippines Batangas City Council, Imperial
>> Appliance Plaza, N.J. Dimaano Building, Recto and Ofelia Buildings A and B,
>> Junction Commercial Complex, Dayton Hotel, and Reyes Haircutters.
>>
>> 2. Cleanup data touched in previous changesets. Cleanup possible
>> redundant tags or replace them with an appropriate tag. Revert name changes
>> to existing POI's occupying buildings, and named buildings (mostly done by
>> "imeeperezveedor".)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> TagaSanPedroAko
>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Batangas City data cleanup

2017-04-17 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Ouch. This user's edits are very messy. Can you confirm that the user has
never replied to any message or changeset comment you did? If so, maybe we
can ask the Data Working Group to block the user until the user has read
the block message.

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Jherome Miguel 
wrote:

> Batangas City needs to be cleaned up, as the data there is becoming
> affected (some POI's are being affected). Most edits are being done on
> weekdays (except holidays), and most of the users are possibly city
> government employees, which have not disclosed their editing background. I
> messaged those users or commented on several changesets they did, but they
> still do not reply. There are too many data already edited for one user to
> cleanup, and other mappers should do.
>
> Here are tasks for Batangas City:
>
> 1. Monitor latest edits by local users. Please keep a monitor on
> changesets around Batangas City, and closely inspect map data being edited,
> then do the appropriate action (clean-up tags, message user, revert to a
> previous version, or leave it alone). Priority is edits by
> "imeeperezveedor" (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/imeeperezveedor),
> that I have a hard time to deal with that user's edits, as it repeatedly
> touched several POI's, and renamed them to "commercial". A few POIs and
> named buildings affected by that user's changesets include Jollibee
> (Kumintang Ilaya branch), BPI (Batangas City Jose P Laurel Highway branch),
> BDO (Batangas Rizal Avenue branch), STI Academic Center Batangas, Nuciti
> Central, Boy Scouts of the Philippines Batangas City Council, Imperial
> Appliance Plaza, N.J. Dimaano Building, Recto and Ofelia Buildings A and B,
> Junction Commercial Complex, Dayton Hotel, and Reyes Haircutters.
>
> 2. Cleanup data touched in previous changesets. Cleanup possible redundant
> tags or replace them with an appropriate tag. Revert name changes to
> existing POI's occupying buildings, and named buildings (mostly done by
> "imeeperezveedor".)
>
> Thanks,
> TagaSanPedroAko
>
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Re: [talk-ph] Batangas City data cleanup

2017-04-17 Thread maning sambale
Hi jherome,

Thanks for taking care of Batangas.

Can you post your mail here as a ticket in
https://github.com/OSMPH/papercut_fix ill try to help fix a few i find to
be inconsistent lets also track progress in the papercutfix ticket.

Keep on mapping!


On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 at 22:51 Jherome Miguel  wrote:

> Batangas City needs to be cleaned up, as the data there is becoming
> affected (some POI's are being affected). Most edits are being done on
> weekdays (except holidays), and most of the users are possibly city
> government employees, which have not disclosed their editing background. I
> messaged those users or commented on several changesets they did, but they
> still do not reply. There are too many data already edited for one user to
> cleanup, and other mappers should do.
>
> Here are tasks for Batangas City:
>
> 1. Monitor latest edits by local users. Please keep a monitor on
> changesets around Batangas City, and closely inspect map data being edited,
> then do the appropriate action (clean-up tags, message user, revert to a
> previous version, or leave it alone). Priority is edits by
> "imeeperezveedor" (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/imeeperezveedor),
> that I have a hard time to deal with that user's edits, as it repeatedly
> touched several POI's, and renamed them to "commercial". A few POIs and
> named buildings affected by that user's changesets include Jollibee
> (Kumintang Ilaya branch), BPI (Batangas City Jose P Laurel Highway branch),
> BDO (Batangas Rizal Avenue branch), STI Academic Center Batangas, Nuciti
> Central, Boy Scouts of the Philippines Batangas City Council, Imperial
> Appliance Plaza, N.J. Dimaano Building, Recto and Ofelia Buildings A and B,
> Junction Commercial Complex, Dayton Hotel, and Reyes Haircutters.
>
> 2. Cleanup data touched in previous changesets. Cleanup possible redundant
> tags or replace them with an appropriate tag. Revert name changes to
> existing POI's occupying buildings, and named buildings (mostly done by
> "imeeperezveedor".)
>
> Thanks,
> TagaSanPedroAko
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