Re: [talk-ph] Mapnik weekly rerendering

2009-02-10 Thread maning sambale 
You don't need to combine all coastlines for large land masses
especially Luzon or Asutralia.  It's a pain to edit them.
An important thing to remember is the way direction:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:natural%3Dcoastline
"land is on the left side and water on the right side of the way (when
viewing in the direction of the way arrows)"


On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Ed Garcia  wrote:
>
> hehehe ... now people might avoid passing this area because it is
> submerged!   And I wonder if the routing programs detect this waterland
> situation and refuse to route through submerged roads?
>
> ok, kidding aside ... what caused this?  I am assuming it is a break in the
> coast line?  ... an open polygon allowing the water to "fill" the land area.
>
> :>) ed
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:54 PM, maning sambale 
> wrote:
>>
>> The coastline west of Luzon.  Is now filled with water again,  we had
>> to use enormous dredging machines to removed re-claimed land.  See it
>> in osmarender:
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=15.076&lon=120.598&zoom=9&layers=0B00FFTF
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 2:54 AM, D Tucny  wrote:
>> > It's a bit odd really, the coastline shapefile comes from
>> > http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html afaik, but, that's showing
>> > correct coastline... I wonder what went wrong...
>> >
>> > d
>> >
>> > 2009/2/7 Mike Collinson 
>> >>
>> >> FYI, Mapnik rendering does not all come from the same source. Most
>> >> features are done weekly but coastlines (riverbanks and rivers?)  come
>> >> from
>> >> their own Shapefiles that are updated much less frequently.  Osmarender
>> >> is
>> >> more prone going haywire if there are small glitches in the coastline
>> >> but is
>> >> more uptodate.
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >> At 04:13 PM 6/02/2009, Ed Garcia wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Oh my!  What happened to the coastline of Zambales!?  I noticed many
>> >> new
>> >> roads added to Castillejos and San Antonio but ...  the coastline is
>> >> gone!
>> >> Is this the "reclaimed" chunk Eugene?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> It seems that the rendering is done and the Philippines now has
>> >> reclaimed
>> >> a huge square-shaped chunk of the South China Sea. China will probably
>> >> protest. :-P
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM, maning sambale <
>> >> emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Napansin ko din kahapon.  Reports from the main talk says there was
>> >> delay in the planet dump.  Hopefully matapos daw in the next few
>> >> hours.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Ed Garcia  wrote:
>> >> > Hi Guys,
>> >> >
>> >> > Did Mapnik rerender this wednesday this week?  Look like it did not
>> >> > (yet).
>> >> > Been monitoring the SJDM Bulacan area where I added several ways last
>> >> > week.
>> >> > I can see all of the additional edits on Osmarender but still none of
>> >> > them
>> >> > showing on Mapnik.
>> >> >
>> >> > thanks
>> >> > ed
>> >> >
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Re: [talk-ph] Mapnik weekly rerendering

2009-02-10 Thread Ed Garcia 
hehehe ... now people might avoid passing this area because it is
submerged!   And I wonder if the routing programs detect this waterland
situation and refuse to route through submerged roads?

ok, kidding aside ... what caused this?  I am assuming it is a break in the
coast line?  ... an open polygon allowing the water to "fill" the land area.

:>) ed


On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:54 PM, maning sambale
wrote:

> The coastline west of Luzon.  Is now filled with water again,  we had
> to use enormous dredging machines to removed re-claimed land.  See it
> in osmarender:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=15.076&lon=120.598&zoom=9&layers=0B00FFTF
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 2:54 AM, D Tucny  wrote:
> > It's a bit odd really, the coastline shapefile comes from
> > http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html afaik, but, that's showing
> > correct coastline... I wonder what went wrong...
> >
> > d
> >
> > 2009/2/7 Mike Collinson 
> >>
> >> FYI, Mapnik rendering does not all come from the same source. Most
> >> features are done weekly but coastlines (riverbanks and rivers?)  come
> from
> >> their own Shapefiles that are updated much less frequently.  Osmarender
> is
> >> more prone going haywire if there are small glitches in the coastline
> but is
> >> more uptodate.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> At 04:13 PM 6/02/2009, Ed Garcia wrote:
> >>
> >> Oh my!  What happened to the coastline of Zambales!?  I noticed many new
> >> roads added to Castillejos and San Antonio but ...  the coastline is
> gone!
> >> Is this the "reclaimed" chunk Eugene?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
> >> wrote:
> >> It seems that the rendering is done and the Philippines now has
> reclaimed
> >> a huge square-shaped chunk of the South China Sea. China will probably
> >> protest. :-P
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM, maning sambale <
> >> emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Napansin ko din kahapon.  Reports from the main talk says there was
> >> delay in the planet dump.  Hopefully matapos daw in the next few
> >> hours.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Ed Garcia  wrote:
> >> > Hi Guys,
> >> >
> >> > Did Mapnik rerender this wednesday this week?  Look like it did not
> >> > (yet).
> >> > Been monitoring the SJDM Bulacan area where I added several ways last
> >> > week.
> >> > I can see all of the additional edits on Osmarender but still none of
> >> > them
> >> > showing on Mapnik.
> >> >
> >> > thanks
> >> > ed
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> >
> >>
> >>
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> >> maning
> >> --
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Re: [talk-ph] Mapnik weekly rerendering

2009-02-10 Thread maning sambale 
The coastline west of Luzon.  Is now filled with water again,  we had
to use enormous dredging machines to removed re-claimed land.  See it
in osmarender:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=15.076&lon=120.598&zoom=9&layers=0B00FFTF



On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 2:54 AM, D Tucny  wrote:
> It's a bit odd really, the coastline shapefile comes from
> http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html afaik, but, that's showing
> correct coastline... I wonder what went wrong...
>
> d
>
> 2009/2/7 Mike Collinson 
>>
>> FYI, Mapnik rendering does not all come from the same source. Most
>> features are done weekly but coastlines (riverbanks and rivers?)  come from
>> their own Shapefiles that are updated much less frequently.  Osmarender is
>> more prone going haywire if there are small glitches in the coastline but is
>> more uptodate.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> At 04:13 PM 6/02/2009, Ed Garcia wrote:
>>
>> Oh my!  What happened to the coastline of Zambales!?  I noticed many new
>> roads added to Castillejos and San Antonio but ...  the coastline is gone!
>> Is this the "reclaimed" chunk Eugene?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
>> wrote:
>> It seems that the rendering is done and the Philippines now has reclaimed
>> a huge square-shaped chunk of the South China Sea. China will probably
>> protest. :-P
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM, maning sambale <
>> emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Napansin ko din kahapon.  Reports from the main talk says there was
>> delay in the planet dump.  Hopefully matapos daw in the next few
>> hours.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Ed Garcia  wrote:
>> > Hi Guys,
>> >
>> > Did Mapnik rerender this wednesday this week?  Look like it did not
>> > (yet).
>> > Been monitoring the SJDM Bulacan area where I added several ways last
>> > week.
>> > I can see all of the additional edits on Osmarender but still none of
>> > them
>> > showing on Mapnik.
>> >
>> > thanks
>> > ed
>> >
>> >
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>>
>>
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Re: [talk-ph] Mapnik weekly rerendering

2009-02-06 Thread D Tucny 
It's a bit odd really, the coastline shapefile comes from
http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html afaik, but, that's showing
correct coastline... I wonder what went wrong...

d

2009/2/7 Mike Collinson 

>  FYI, Mapnik rendering does not all come from the same source. Most
> features are done weekly but coastlines (riverbanks and rivers?)  come from
> their own Shapefiles that are updated much less frequently.  Osmarender is
> more prone going haywire if there are small glitches in the coastline but is
> more uptodate.
>
> Mike
>
>
> At 04:13 PM 6/02/2009, Ed Garcia wrote:
>
> Oh my!  What happened to the coastline of Zambales!?  I noticed many new
> roads added to Castillejos and San Antonio but ...  the coastline is gone!
> Is this the "reclaimed" chunk Eugene?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
> wrote:
>  It seems that the rendering is done and the Philippines now has reclaimed
> a huge square-shaped chunk of the South China Sea. China will probably
> protest. :-P
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM, maning sambale 
> wrote:
>  Napansin ko din kahapon.  Reports from the main talk says there was
> delay in the planet dump.  Hopefully matapos daw in the next few
> hours.
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Ed Garcia  wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Did Mapnik rerender this wednesday this week?  Look like it did not
> (yet).
> > Been monitoring the SJDM Bulacan area where I added several ways last
> week.
> > I can see all of the additional edits on Osmarender but still none of
> them
> > showing on Mapnik.
> >
> > thanks
> > ed
> >
> >
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Re: [talk-ph] Mapnik weekly rerendering

2009-02-06 Thread Mike Collinson 
FYI, Mapnik rendering does not all come from the same source. Most features are 
done weekly but coastlines (riverbanks and rivers?)  come from their own 
Shapefiles that are updated much less frequently.  Osmarender is more prone 
going haywire if there are small glitches in the coastline but is more uptodate.

Mike

At 04:13 PM 6/02/2009, Ed Garcia wrote:

>Oh my!  What happened to the coastline of Zambales!?  I noticed many new roads 
>added to Castillejos and San Antonio but ...  the coastline is gone!   Is this 
>the "reclaimed" chunk Eugene?
>
>
>
>On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar 
><sea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>It seems that the rendering is done and the Philippines now has reclaimed a 
>huge square-shaped chunk of the South China Sea. China will probably protest. 
>:-P
>
>
>On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM, maning sambale 
><emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Napansin ko din kahapon.  Reports from the main talk says there was
>delay in the planet dump.  Hopefully matapos daw in the next few
>hours.
>
>On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Ed Garcia 
><eppgar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> Did Mapnik rerender this wednesday this week?  Look like it did not (yet).
>> Been monitoring the SJDM Bulacan area where I added several ways last week.
>> I can see all of the additional edits on Osmarender but still none of them
>> showing on Mapnik.
>>
>> thanks
>> ed
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Re: [talk-ph] Mapnik weekly rerendering

2009-02-06 Thread Ed Garcia 
Oh my!  What happened to the coastline of Zambales!?  I noticed many new
roads added to Castillejos and San Antonio but ...  the coastline is gone!
Is this the "reclaimed" chunk Eugene?



On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:

> It seems that the rendering is done and the Philippines now has reclaimed a
> huge square-shaped chunk of the South China Sea. China will probably
> protest. :-P
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM, maning sambale  > wrote:
>
>> Napansin ko din kahapon.  Reports from the main talk says there was
>> delay in the planet dump.  Hopefully matapos daw in the next few
>> hours.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Ed Garcia  wrote:
>> > Hi Guys,
>> >
>> > Did Mapnik rerender this wednesday this week?  Look like it did not
>> (yet).
>> > Been monitoring the SJDM Bulacan area where I added several ways last
>> week.
>> > I can see all of the additional edits on Osmarender but still none of
>> them
>> > showing on Mapnik.
>> >
>> > thanks
>> > ed
>> >
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Re: [talk-ph] Mapnik weekly rerendering

2009-02-06 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar 
It seems that the rendering is done and the Philippines now has reclaimed a
huge square-shaped chunk of the South China Sea. China will probably
protest. :-P

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 9:40 AM, maning sambale
wrote:

> Napansin ko din kahapon.  Reports from the main talk says there was
> delay in the planet dump.  Hopefully matapos daw in the next few
> hours.
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Ed Garcia  wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Did Mapnik rerender this wednesday this week?  Look like it did not
> (yet).
> > Been monitoring the SJDM Bulacan area where I added several ways last
> week.
> > I can see all of the additional edits on Osmarender but still none of
> them
> > showing on Mapnik.
> >
> > thanks
> > ed
> >
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Re: [talk-ph] Mapnik weekly rerendering

2009-02-05 Thread maning sambale 
Napansin ko din kahapon.  Reports from the main talk says there was
delay in the planet dump.  Hopefully matapos daw in the next few
hours.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Ed Garcia  wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Did Mapnik rerender this wednesday this week?  Look like it did not (yet).
> Been monitoring the SJDM Bulacan area where I added several ways last week.
> I can see all of the additional edits on Osmarender but still none of them
> showing on Mapnik.
>
> thanks
> ed
>
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