Re: [talk-ph] is the text Province of necessary in the is_in:state tags?

2011-02-09 Thread Axel Kollmorgen

On 2011-02-09 15:40, maning sambale wrote:

I believe I removed all instance of Province of in the is_in:state
tag. The db should be a bit smaller now.


there are some remaining (palawan, cagayan, quezon, ...). removing them 
now (including 'is_in:country' and 'is_in:country_code'): 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/axk/edits .


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Re: [talk-ph] is the text Province of necessary in the is_in:state tags?

2011-02-09 Thread maning sambale
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Axel Kollmorgen akollmor...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 2011-02-09 15:40, maning sambale wrote:

 I believe I removed all instance of Province of in the is_in:state
 tag. The db should be a bit smaller now.

Let me correct myself:
I believe I removed all instance of Province of in the is_in:state
*in nodes/points*

 there are some remaining (palawan, cagayan, quezon, ...). removing them now
 (including 'is_in:country' and 'is_in:country_code'):
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/axk/edits .
Great!
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Re: [talk-ph] is the text Province of necessary in the is_in:state tags?

2011-02-08 Thread maning sambale
FYI,

I believe I removed all instance of Province of in the is_in:state
tag.  The db should be a bit smaller now.

Since the major source of the data came from GNS, a few observations I noticed:
 - there is state/province labeled Kalinga-Apayao.  This should be
either Kalinga or Apayao only.  I simply removed the Province of
text.
 - no GNS place with Zamboanga Sibugay prov/state label.  Obviously,
since this is a newly created province.

As axk commented, many GNS places are mislocated please adjust the
position of these nodes as you encounter them.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:43 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am doing deletion of Province of in the is_in:state = in batches.
 Let me know if I missed certain areas or whether to exclude your own
 mapping patch/territory.

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6195067
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6194871
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6180884

 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 I'm in favor of removing the Province of.


 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:54 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Most of the is_in:state tags have the value Province of in the name.
  For example:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/198502660
 gns_classification = ADM2
 gns_uni = -3354889
 is_in:country = Philippines
 is_in:country_code = ph
 is_in:state = Province of Bohol
 name = Loboc
 place = town
 source = GNS

 Question, is it too verbose?

 Disclosure:
 I'm appending the is_in:state tags to town and cities points in the
 osm-ph garmin map.  See:
 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4677828307_622655ea75.jpg

 I can of course pre-process the OSM data before compiling the Garmin
 map, but it would be nice to clean the main data if we agree that
 this is redundant.  The benefit I see with the text Province of
 remaining in the database is to make it explicitly refer to the
 province since it is added in the is_in:state tag to avoid confusion
 with the state from other countries.

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Re: [talk-ph] is the text Province of necessary in the is_in:state tags?

2010-11-01 Thread maning sambale
Tutubi,

For place= tags, we add the is_in tags.  But for POIs, (amenities,
shops) I suggest you add address information (addr:housenumber,
addr:street, addr:city).

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:30 PM, tutubi
tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote:
 I was about to ask the same question if I need to add the province and town
 information on my edits :P



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Re: [talk-ph] is the text Province of necessary in the is_in:state tags?

2010-10-30 Thread Totor
--- On Sat, 10/30/10, Eugene Alvin Villar  wrote:
[...]
 
  +1. i've been doing this for a while now.
 
  additionally, i've also been removing is_in:country =
 Philippines and
  is_in:country_code = ph . two reasons:
 
 +1. I've been removing the is_in:country(_code) tag
 whenever I see them as well.

Hi all,

I have been adding this is_in:country(_code) in Cebu some time ago to make 
Navit's search work properly :
http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/OpenStreetMap#Search_doesn.27t_work_in_most_countries

I don't use Navit anymore, but others might still like the search feature...

I agree the Province of prefix is not very useful in the state name.

Regards,

Totor







  

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Re: [talk-ph] is the text Province of necessary in the is_in:state tags?

2010-10-28 Thread maning sambale
Dear ax,

Some people find it useful, some don't.  For me, the garmin map is
more of a debugging tool rather than a navigation gadget (I can find
my way even without a GPS given enough travel preparations).
Moreover, search in mkgmap doesn't really work well right now.
Therefore, you can't use the search by State in most garmin devices
with OSM/mkgmap data.

I don't have a strong opinion for or against this in the garmin map.
If others see this as map junk/clutter we can disable it.

On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Axel Kollmorgen akollmor...@gmail.com wrote:

 Disclosure:
 I'm appending the is_in:state tags to town and cities points in the
 osm-ph garmin map.  See:
 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4677828307_622655ea75.jpg

 i'm not liking this too much. most of the times i know the province i am in
 or want to go to. the province name behind the place name adds clutter to
 the map and distracts from more important information. what are the benefits
 of having it like this? does it out-weight the disadvantages? isn't there a
 way to have the information on the province available (for searching etc.),
 but not showing it behind every place name on the map?




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Re: [talk-ph] is the text Province of necessary in the is_in:state tags?

2010-10-27 Thread maning sambale
I am doing deletion of Province of in the is_in:state = in batches.
Let me know if I missed certain areas or whether to exclude your own
mapping patch/territory.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6195067
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6194871
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6180884

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm in favor of removing the Province of.


 On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:54 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Most of the is_in:state tags have the value Province of in the name.
  For example:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/198502660
 gns_classification = ADM2
 gns_uni = -3354889
 is_in:country = Philippines
 is_in:country_code = ph
 is_in:state = Province of Bohol
 name = Loboc
 place = town
 source = GNS

 Question, is it too verbose?

 Disclosure:
 I'm appending the is_in:state tags to town and cities points in the
 osm-ph garmin map.  See:
 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4677828307_622655ea75.jpg

 I can of course pre-process the OSM data before compiling the Garmin
 map, but it would be nice to clean the main data if we agree that
 this is redundant.  The benefit I see with the text Province of
 remaining in the database is to make it explicitly refer to the
 province since it is added in the is_in:state tag to avoid confusion
 with the state from other countries.

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Re: [talk-ph] is the text Province of necessary in the is_in:state tags?

2010-06-10 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I'm in favor of removing the Province of.


On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:54 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.comwrote:

 Most of the is_in:state tags have the value Province of in the name.
  For example:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/198502660
 gns_classification = ADM2
 gns_uni = -3354889
 is_in:country = Philippines
 is_in:country_code = ph
 is_in:state = Province of Bohol
 name = Loboc
 place = town
 source = GNS

 Question, is it too verbose?

 Disclosure:
 I'm appending the is_in:state tags to town and cities points in the
 osm-ph garmin map.  See:
 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4677828307_622655ea75.jpg

 I can of course pre-process the OSM data before compiling the Garmin
 map, but it would be nice to clean the main data if we agree that
 this is redundant.  The benefit I see with the text Province of
 remaining in the database is to make it explicitly refer to the
 province since it is added in the is_in:state tag to avoid confusion
 with the state from other countries.

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