Re: [Talk-pt] Road numbering in Portugal

2011-01-21 Por tôpico Claudius Henrichs
So judging from the wiki the portugese OSM project standard for 
reference tagging is now:
EN 329 with a space. Same goes for A 23 and IP 9 all seperated by 
spaces, correct?


Claudius

Am 18.01.2011 14:17, f.dos.san...@free.fr:

Indeed it needed a clarification !

Modificei o wiki primeira parte :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Estradas


Hello,
yes i think i can confirm. Even if in some online maps it appears
diferently, the correct naming should be the EN separated from the number.

In several local municipalities and in the Road institute is that the norm.
Sorry for discussing in portuguese :-)
In some cases it seems there are numbers composed with an - in the middle
like EN 8-6. I really don't know why :-)
Anyone can bring a light to this?
Victor

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Claudius Henrichsclaudiu...@gmx.dewrote:


  So just to make sure Google and me understood your portugese correctly:

The *correct* tagging for Estradas Nacionais would be:

ref=EN 329

The *incorrect* tagging would be:

ref=EN329 (without space)
ref=N 329
ref=N329
ref=329

Additionally I would remove Estradas Nacionais or EN329 from the
name-tag. Right?

So to take an example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25410709

Currently it's tagged like this:

name: Estrada Nacional 108
ref: N108

and I would change it to just:

ref: EN 108

Thanks again for your replies. Bom mapping :P

Claudius

Am 17.01.2011 23:02, Victor Ferreira:

Viva no Wiki diz explicitamente:
*highway=primary*. Estradas Nacionais (EN, lista

aquihttp://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens).

E na lista das estradas de Portugal (oficial) tem EN
http://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens
Nos mapas convencionais (em papel) sempre apareceu assim.
Victor

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Francisco DOS SANTOS
f.dos.san...@free.fr  wrote:


Ok, thanks for the heads up.
The road numbers listed in the wiki page is correct:
it's IP, IC, EN, ER, etc, as indicated in the page.
Victor


  Só venho de reparar o caso das nacionais !
Devemos codificar ref=EN2 e não ref=N2 ?

Se fora o caso, vou completar o wiki porque a pagina :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Estradas
Não diz nada sobre o ref.
E a pagina :



http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rede_das_principais_estradas_de_Portugal

Uso o N e não EN.

E um ponto que precisa ser esclarecido, cada pais tem o seu sistema (em
frança por exemplo usemos o N e não RN, e temos um espaço entre a letra
e o numero : N 2).


On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Claudius Henrichs
claudiu...@gmx.de  wrote:
 Bom dia!

 sorry for posting in English, but I feel this to be a relevant
 information and question.
 Some of you actively mapping in Portugal may have seen altely
 some increased activity from some german mappers. This is
 because a user who is active in quality assurance has run a
 connection check over the portugese OSM data. This check
 searches for roads that are crossing without bridge or tunnel.
 There is a list with those errors on the wiki [1] and every
 user can take a block of 100 errors, leave a note in the wiki
 that he is dealing with them and try to fix these. Fixing the
 errors is much easier now with the help of Bing imagery.

 I feel that it would have definitely been nicer to have
 informed the portugese OSM community *before* starting this
 campaign, but better late than never.

 Now to my personal question on mapping in Portugal: I have
 read a bit about the road network and number in Portugal on
 the english wikipedia [2]. I see that you have some new road
 numbers starting with IP and IC that were assigned in the
 2000 Plano Rodoviário Nacional. And then you have the older
 estradas nacionais given out in the 1945 Plano Rodoviário
 Nacional. I already checked the OSM wiki project page for
 Portugal [3] but could not find any recommendation about how
 to tag these. Shall I use EN329 or N329? Same goes for the
 estradas regionais: Should we use ER32 or R32? Thanks in
 advance for your help.

 Regards,
 Claudius


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Re: [Talk-pt] Road numbering in Portugal

2011-01-18 Por tôpico Claudius Henrichs

So just to make sure Google and me understood your portugese correctly:

The *correct* tagging for Estradas Nacionais would be:

ref=EN 329

The *incorrect* tagging would be:

ref=EN329 (without space)
ref=N 329
ref=N329
ref=329

Additionally I would remove Estradas Nacionais or EN329 from the 
name-tag. Right?


So to take an example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25410709

Currently it's tagged like this:

name: Estrada Nacional 108
ref: N108

and I would change it to just:

ref: EN 108

Thanks again for your replies. Bom mapping :P

Claudius

Am 17.01.2011 23:02, Victor Ferreira:

Viva no Wiki diz explicitamente:
/highway=primary/. Estradas Nacionais (EN, lista aqui 
http://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens).

E na lista das estradas de Portugal (oficial) tem EN
http://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens
Nos mapas convencionais (em papel) sempre apareceu assim.
Victor

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Francisco DOS SANTOS 
f.dos.san...@free.fr mailto:f.dos.san...@free.fr wrote:



 Ok, thanks for the heads up.
 The road numbers listed in the wiki page is correct:
 it's IP, IC, EN, ER, etc, as indicated in the page.
 Victor

Só venho de reparar o caso das nacionais !
Devemos codificar ref=EN2 e não ref=N2 ?

Se fora o caso, vou completar o wiki porque a pagina :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Estradas
Não diz nada sobre o ref.
E a pagina :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rede_das_principais_estradas_de_Portugal
Uso o N e não EN.

E um ponto que precisa ser esclarecido, cada pais tem o seu
sistema (em
frança por exemplo usemos o N e não RN, e temos um espaço entre a
letra
e o numero : N 2).

 On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Claudius Henrichs
 claudiu...@gmx.de mailto:claudiu...@gmx.de wrote:
 Bom dia!

 sorry for posting in English, but I feel this to be a
relevant
 information and question.
 Some of you actively mapping in Portugal may have seen
altely
 some increased activity from some german mappers. This is
 because a user who is active in quality assurance has run a
 connection check over the portugese OSM data. This check
 searches for roads that are crossing without bridge or
tunnel.
 There is a list with those errors on the wiki [1] and every
 user can take a block of 100 errors, leave a note in the
wiki
 that he is dealing with them and try to fix these.
Fixing the
 errors is much easier now with the help of Bing imagery.

 I feel that it would have definitely been nicer to have
 informed the portugese OSM community *before* starting this
 campaign, but better late than never.

 Now to my personal question on mapping in Portugal: I have
 read a bit about the road network and number in Portugal on
 the english wikipedia [2]. I see that you have some new road
 numbers starting with IP and IC that were assigned
in the
 2000 Plano Rodoviário Nacional. And then you have the older
 estradas nacionais given out in the 1945 Plano Rodoviário
 Nacional. I already checked the OSM wiki project page for
 Portugal [3] but could not find any recommendation about how
 to tag these. Shall I use EN329 or N329? Same goes
for the
 estradas regionais: Should we use ER32 or R32? Thanks in
 advance for your help.

 Regards,
 Claudius



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