Re: [Talk-ro] Voi ati primit mailul de la checkin.com?

2016-02-25 Fir de Conversatie Gabriel Sebastian Moise
Si eu tot azi l-am primit ! Am crezut ca azi a fost trimis ...


În data de 25 februarie 2016, 17:55, Strainu [via GIS] <
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> Salut,
>
> Am observat că mailul de la checkin.com a fost trimis pe 17 ianuarie,
> dar a ajuns de-abia azi la mine în inbox (sunt sigur, pentru că sunt
> adeptul unui 0-unread inbox) La voi a ajuns din ianuarie sau a fost
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[Talk-ro] Voi ati primit mailul de la checkin.com?

2016-02-25 Fir de Conversatie Strainu
Salut,

Am observat că mailul de la checkin.com a fost trimis pe 17 ianuarie,
dar a ajuns de-abia azi la mine în inbox (sunt sigur, pentru că sunt
adeptul unui 0-unread inbox) La voi a ajuns din ianuarie sau a fost
reținut de filtrele listei? Dacă a fost reținut, cine se ocupă de
moderare? Aveți nevoie de ajutor ca să meargă mai repede?

Mersi,
  Strainu

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Re: [Talk-ro] Romania Admin Level 6 are ways, not relations?!

2016-02-25 Fir de Conversatie Strainu
2016-02-25 12:30 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft :
> Do you mean that the city administrative division dont apply in romania or
> that it haven't been done yet because of missing source data ?

Don't confuse the city with the village and the administrative
divisions (UAT - unitate administrativ teritorială).

The administrative division of Romania is as follows:
 - the country
 - counties (NUTS level 3) + Municipiul București (the upper one)
 - municipalities (aka UATs: municipii, orașe, comune and Municipiul
București (the lower one))

The following are NOT administrative divisions:
- development regions (NUTS level 2)
- individual settlements (cities, towns and villages) - these can be
administered by any kind of municipality. For big cities, the
individual settlement and the administrative division are the same,
but this is not a rule.

As an example, search for "Calafat" at
https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/ (can't find a permalink,
sorry). As you can see, the administrative boundary includes the city
of Calafat, but also a few villages.

What we have in OSM are the limits of individual settlements, but not
of administrative divisions. There have been talks about importing the
administrative divisions, but I guess nobody assumed the task in the
end.

All the best,
Strainu



>
> Le 25 févr. 2016 10:52, "Strainu"  a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Juergen,
>>
>> AFAIK, we actually don't have any administrative limits imported at
>> that level. What you see are some village limits, which have 2
>> sources: some very old data from the Ministry of Culture and the
>> Corina Land Cover import. Villages are not administrative divisions of
>> Romania and the their boundaries are extremely fluid. I see we have
>> *some* administrative limits imported, but those appear on the
>> Boundaries Map.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>Strainu
>>
>> 2016-01-17 21:06 GMT+02:00 CheckIn.com :
>> > Hello Romanian OSM-supporters,
>> >
>> > it seems that the administrative boundaries for Romania are not saved as
>> > relations (as in all other countries) but as waypoints. I do not know if
>> > there is a reason for this, but it makes managing of Romanian data more
>> > difficult.
>> >
>> > Any chance those waypoints can be changed to relations? If yes, they
>> > i.e.
>> > also show up in https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/
>> >
>> > Thanks a million to consider to change those. I wouldn't know how to it
>> > myself ... or if there's a good reason for this "error"! If you need a
>> > list
>> > of such relations we found, just mail me.
>> > Cheers - Juergen
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Re: [Talk-ro] Romania Admin Level 6 are ways, not relations?!

2016-02-25 Fir de Conversatie Gabriel Sebastian Moise
Hmmm, maybe this is the reason that some navigation software does not find
some address numbers ? Only OsmAnd and Mapfactor can find them ! Or maps.me
can't search for numbers if they are on the buildings ! maybe they search
if there is a separate point of address near the street and not on the
building !

Stăncești, Prahova, Romania !


2016-02-25 12:31 GMT+02:00 Jean-Baptiste Holcroft [via GIS] <
ml-node+s19327n5868459...@n5.nabble.com>:

> Do you mean that the city administrative division dont apply in romania or
> that it haven't been done yet because of missing source data ?
> Le 25 févr. 2016 10:52, "Strainu" <[hidden email]
> > a écrit :
>
>> Hi Juergen,
>>
>> AFAIK, we actually don't have any administrative limits imported at
>> that level. What you see are some village limits, which have 2
>> sources: some very old data from the Ministry of Culture and the
>> Corina Land Cover import. Villages are not administrative divisions of
>> Romania and the their boundaries are extremely fluid. I see we have
>> *some* administrative limits imported, but those appear on the
>> Boundaries Map.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>Strainu
>>
>> 2016-01-17 21:06 GMT+02:00 CheckIn.com <[hidden email]
>> >:
>> > Hello Romanian OSM-supporters,
>> >
>> > it seems that the administrative boundaries for Romania are not saved as
>> > relations (as in all other countries) but as waypoints. I do not know if
>> > there is a reason for this, but it makes managing of Romanian data more
>> > difficult.
>> >
>> > Any chance those waypoints can be changed to relations? If yes, they
>> i.e.
>> > also show up in https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/
>> >
>> > Thanks a million to consider to change those. I wouldn't know how to it
>> > myself ... or if there's a good reason for this "error"! If you need a
>> list
>> > of such relations we found, just mail me.
>> > Cheers - Juergen
>> > CheckIn.com
>> >
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Re: [Talk-ro] Romania Admin Level 6 are ways, not relations?!

2016-02-25 Fir de Conversatie Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
Do you mean that the city administrative division dont apply in romania or
that it haven't been done yet because of missing source data ?
Le 25 févr. 2016 10:52, "Strainu"  a écrit :

> Hi Juergen,
>
> AFAIK, we actually don't have any administrative limits imported at
> that level. What you see are some village limits, which have 2
> sources: some very old data from the Ministry of Culture and the
> Corina Land Cover import. Villages are not administrative divisions of
> Romania and the their boundaries are extremely fluid. I see we have
> *some* administrative limits imported, but those appear on the
> Boundaries Map.
>
> Best regards,
>Strainu
>
> 2016-01-17 21:06 GMT+02:00 CheckIn.com :
> > Hello Romanian OSM-supporters,
> >
> > it seems that the administrative boundaries for Romania are not saved as
> > relations (as in all other countries) but as waypoints. I do not know if
> > there is a reason for this, but it makes managing of Romanian data more
> > difficult.
> >
> > Any chance those waypoints can be changed to relations? If yes, they i.e.
> > also show up in https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/
> >
> > Thanks a million to consider to change those. I wouldn't know how to it
> > myself ... or if there's a good reason for this "error"! If you need a
> list
> > of such relations we found, just mail me.
> > Cheers - Juergen
> > CheckIn.com
> >
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Re: [Talk-ro] Romania Admin Level 6 are ways, not relations?!

2016-02-25 Fir de Conversatie Strainu
Hi Juergen,

AFAIK, we actually don't have any administrative limits imported at
that level. What you see are some village limits, which have 2
sources: some very old data from the Ministry of Culture and the
Corina Land Cover import. Villages are not administrative divisions of
Romania and the their boundaries are extremely fluid. I see we have
*some* administrative limits imported, but those appear on the
Boundaries Map.

Best regards,
   Strainu

2016-01-17 21:06 GMT+02:00 CheckIn.com :
> Hello Romanian OSM-supporters,
>
> it seems that the administrative boundaries for Romania are not saved as
> relations (as in all other countries) but as waypoints. I do not know if
> there is a reason for this, but it makes managing of Romanian data more
> difficult.
>
> Any chance those waypoints can be changed to relations? If yes, they i.e.
> also show up in https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/
>
> Thanks a million to consider to change those. I wouldn't know how to it
> myself ... or if there's a good reason for this "error"! If you need a list
> of such relations we found, just mail me.
> Cheers - Juergen
> CheckIn.com
>
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[Talk-ro] Romania Admin Level 6 are ways, not relations?!

2016-02-25 Fir de Conversatie CheckIn.com

Hello Romanian OSM-supporters,

it seems that the administrative boundaries for Romania are not saved as 
relations (as in all other countries) but as waypoints. I do not know if 
there is a reason for this, but it makes managing of Romanian data more 
difficult.


Any chance those waypoints can be changed to relations? If yes, they 
i.e. also show up in https://osm.wno-edv-service.de/boundaries/


Thanks a million to consider to change those. I wouldn't know how to it 
myself ... or if there's a good reason for this "error"! If you need a 
list of such relations we found, just mail me.

Cheers - Juergen
CheckIn.com

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