Re: [Talk-tr] Mapping battle site Canakkale (Gallipoli), Turkey [name tag]
left (at least 2 I think) but I've not found them with bing. The Question? Should I now map the named ridges, gullies etc that were used by 'us' (and/or named by 'us') in the action? These would be historic 'English' names e.g. 'second ridge', 'valley of despair', 'cooee gully'. My source for this is copyright .. so I'll need permission from them (or another source). But before I ask for that I'd like an indication that the mapped features would not offend you. Apologies for the english language, if someone could translate it in to Turkish it would be aprecialted. Happy New Year Warin. ___ Talk-tr mailing list Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-tr/attachments/20140106/571ed 7d0/attachment-0001.html> -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 09:17:18 +0200 From: Roman Neum?ller To: talk-tr@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-tr] Mapping battle site Canakkale (Gallipoli), Turkey Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1254; format=flowed; delsp=yes it should be ok using english names you could also use name:en tag... Roman On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 06:03:54 +0200, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: HI, I've found some Turkish maps of the Canakkale area - copyrite expired so they should be useable to OSM. They are old .. say 1916? But should give information on the historical battlefield. Some of these are Turkish! http://www.awm.gov.au/search-awm/collections/?q=G7432.G1+S65&conflict= all&submit=Search Unfortunatly they are presented at 72dpi .. making the finer details unreadable. I've placed a few deatils from one of them .. yet to do more. Did a little housekeeping in the area - road ending near roads but not joined - joined where bing indicates, ways crossing ways - added nodes to make routing possible etc. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, With the forthcoming services at I've taken the trouble of mapping the present memorials (and their associated roads, paths .. in some cases adjacent paths so people don't take the wrong ones) at Canakkale (Gallipoli), Turkey. A few were maped in the south (mainly British, about 4), one road was GPS sourced, other roads looked to be bing tracings. I've tried to get them all (OZ, NZ and Turkish mainly), there maybe a few left (at least 2 I think) but I've not found them with bing. The Question? Should I now map the named ridges, gullies etc that were used by 'us' (and/or named by 'us') in the action? These would be historic 'English' names e.g. 'second ridge', 'valley of despair', 'cooee gully'. My source for this is copyright .. so I'll need permission from them (or another source). But before I ask for that I'd like an indication that the mapped features would not offend you. Apologies for the english language, if someone could translate it in to Turkish it would be aprecialted. Happy New Year Warin. ___ Talk-tr mailing list Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr -- katpatuka.org -- ___ Talk-tr mailing list Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr End of Talk-tr Digest, Vol 50, Issue 2 ** ___ Talk-tr mailing list Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr ___ Talk-tr mailing list Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr
Re: [Talk-tr] Mapping battle site Canakkale (Gallipoli), Turkey
the view of experienced osm volunteers on this issue. I also offer my help to find out current and historic names of the entities. --- Arkadaşlar Merhaba, Ben Gelibolu yer isimlerini, işgal kuvvetlerinin isimleri ile görmeye karşıyım. Sizin de görüş ve önerilerinizi rica ediyorum. -Original Message- From: talk-tr-requ...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-tr-requ...@openstreetmap.org] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 2:01 PM To: talk-tr@openstreetmap.org Subject: Talk-tr Digest, Vol 50, Issue 2 Send Talk-tr mailing list submissions to talk-tr@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-tr-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-tr-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Talk-tr digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: Re: Mapping battle site Canakkale (Gallipoli), Turkey (Warin) 2. Re: Mapping battle site Canakkale (Gallipoli), Turkey (Roman Neum?ller) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 15:03:54 +1100 From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> To: talk-tr@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-tr] Fwd: Re: Mapping battle site Canakkale (Gallipoli),Turkey Message-ID: <52ca2b2a.6080...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" HI, I've found some Turkish maps of the Canakkale area - copyrite expired so they should be useable to OSM. They are old .. say 1916? But should give information on the historical battlefield. Some of these are Turkish! http://www.awm.gov.au/search-awm/collections/?q=G7432.G1+S65&conflict=all&su bmit=Search Unfortunatly they are presented at 72dpi .. making the finer details unreadable. I've placed a few deatils from one of them .. yet to do more. Did a little housekeeping in the area - road ending near roads but not joined - joined where bing indicates, ways crossing ways - added nodes to make routing possible etc. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, With the forthcoming services at I've taken the trouble of mapping the present memorials (and their associated roads, paths .. in some cases adjacent paths so people don't take the wrong ones) at Canakkale (Gallipoli), Turkey. A few were maped in the south (mainly British, about 4), one road was GPS sourced, other roads looked to be bing tracings. I've tried to get them all (OZ, NZ and Turkish mainly), there maybe a few left (at least 2 I think) but I've not found them with bing. The Question? Should I now map the named ridges, gullies etc that were used by 'us' (and/or named by 'us') in the action? These would be historic 'English' names e.g. 'second ridge', 'valley of despair', 'cooee gully'. My source for this is copyright .. so I'll need permission from them (or another source). But before I ask for that I'd like an indication that the mapped features would not offend you. Apologies for the english language, if someone could translate it in to Turkish it would be aprecialted. Happy New Year Warin. ___ Talk-tr mailing list Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-tr/attachments/20140106/571ed 7d0/attachment-0001.html> -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 09:17:18 +0200 From: Roman Neum?ller To: talk-tr@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-tr] Mapping battle site Canakkale (Gallipoli), Turkey Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1254; format=flowed; delsp=yes it should be ok using english names you could also use name:en tag... Roman On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 06:03:54 +0200, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: HI, I've found some Turkish maps of the Canakkale area - copyrite expired so they should be useable to OSM. They are old .. say 1916? But should give information on the historical battlefield. Some of these are Turkish! http://www.awm.gov.au/search-awm/collections/?q=G7432.G1+S65&conflict= all&submit=Search Unfortunatly they are presented at 72dpi .. making the finer details unreadable. I've placed a few deatils from one of them .. yet to do
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Hi Warrin, Firstly, thank you for your kind request for our opinion. I am new to osm, so my words reflect my view. I think the data you input must be based on Turkish names. Maybe it can be multilangual if it is possible. The people who visit the battle field would get much from Turkish names because they are the names currently used. Remember that Allied Powers was at Gallipoli just for 8 months. So I am against to see the landmarks with their naming. Of course the memorials, and some important land marks which has referring in English literature or army content can be good for anyone. I request the view of experienced osm volunteers on this issue. I also offer my help to find out current and historic names of the entities. --- Arkadaşlar Merhaba, Ben Gelibolu yer isimlerini, işgal kuvvetlerinin isimleri ile görmeye karşıyım. Sizin de görüş ve önerilerinizi rica ediyorum. -Original Message- From: talk-tr-requ...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-tr-requ...@openstreetmap.org] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 2:01 PM To: talk-tr@openstreetmap.org Subject: Talk-tr Digest, Vol 50, Issue 2 Send Talk-tr mailing list submissions to talk-tr@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-tr-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-tr-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Talk-tr digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fwd: Re: Mapping battle site Canakkale (Gallipoli), Turkey (Warin) 2. Re: Mapping battle site Canakkale (Gallipoli), Turkey (Roman Neum?ller) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 15:03:54 +1100 From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> To: talk-tr@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-tr] Fwd: Re: Mapping battle site Canakkale (Gallipoli),Turkey Message-ID: <52ca2b2a.6080...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" HI, I've found some Turkish maps of the Canakkale area - copyrite expired so they should be useable to OSM. They are old .. say 1916? But should give information on the historical battlefield. Some of these are Turkish! http://www.awm.gov.au/search-awm/collections/?q=G7432.G1+S65&conflict=all&su bmit=Search Unfortunatly they are presented at 72dpi .. making the finer details unreadable. I've placed a few deatils from one of them .. yet to do more. Did a little housekeeping in the area - road ending near roads but not joined - joined where bing indicates, ways crossing ways - added nodes to make routing possible etc. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 5:57 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi, With the forthcoming services at I've taken the trouble of mapping the present memorials (and their associated roads, paths .. in some cases adjacent paths so people don't take the wrong ones) at Canakkale (Gallipoli), Turkey. A few were maped in the south (mainly British, about 4), one road was GPS sourced, other roads looked to be bing tracings. I've tried to get them all (OZ, NZ and Turkish mainly), there maybe a few left (at least 2 I think) but I've not found them with bing. The Question? Should I now map the named ridges, gullies etc that were used by 'us' (and/or named by 'us') in the action? These would be historic 'English' names e.g. 'second ridge', 'valley of despair', 'cooee gully'. My source for this is copyright .. so I'll need permission from them (or another source). But before I ask for that I'd like an indication that the mapped features would not offend you. Apologies for the english language, if someone could translate it in to Turkish it would be aprecialted. Happy New Year Warin. ___ Talk-tr mailing list Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-tr/attachments/20140106/571ed 7d0/attachment-0001.html> -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 09:17:18 +0200 From: Roman Neum?ller To: talk-tr@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-tr] Mapping battle site Canakkale (Gallipoli), Turkey Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1254; format=flowed; delsp=yes it should be ok using english names you could a
