[Talk-transit] NaPTAN - Time for the rest?

2010-03-13 Thread Thomas Wood
Hello all,
It's now been more than a year since we got permission to import the
NaPTAN dataset, so far only 53 of the 143 counties that we have the
data for have been imported.

So, in short, is it time for the rest to be dumped in?

Discussion please.

Regards,
Thomas

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Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN - Time for the rest?

2010-03-13 Thread Bryce McKinlay
That certainly sounds good to me.

Along those lines, what are the chances of importing updated data from
a newer edition of NaPTAN for the existing regions? In London I know
of several areas where bus stops have been relocated/reconfigured
recently (Camden Town, South Kensington) so OSM is already out of
date.

I've mentioned this before, but the other thing I'd really like to see
imported from NapTAN is the pedestrian entry/exit locations for rail
and tube stations!

Bryce


On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Thomas Wood
grand.edgemas...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all,
 It's now been more than a year since we got permission to import the
 NaPTAN dataset, so far only 53 of the 143 counties that we have the
 data for have been imported.

 So, in short, is it time for the rest to be dumped in?

 Discussion please.

 Regards,
 Thomas

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Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN - Time for the rest?

2010-03-13 Thread Roger Slevin
Thomas

If you want a refresh of the NaPTAN dataset, then just ask me  and I
will arrange for this be made available.  I appreciate that this could be a
two-edged sword  it would update the data, but in the areas where work
has already been done on the data from a year ago, it may over-write any
local edits made to that data - or has this already been taken into account,
so that new data would sit alongside existing data and would only be
accepted if it is appropriate at each location?

Cheers

Roger

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Subject: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN - Time for the rest?

Hello all,
It's now been more than a year since we got permission to import the
NaPTAN dataset, so far only 53 of the 143 counties that we have the
data for have been imported.

So, in short, is it time for the rest to be dumped in?

Discussion please.

Regards,
Thomas

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Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN - Time for the rest?

2010-03-13 Thread Chris Hill
I would certainly hope that any updates are not used to overwrite 
existing local edits. I have spent far too many hours checking and 
updating the data to have a newer version overwrite it. A smart merge 
would be more useful, I would write it if required.

As too 'dumping in' the remaining county data I would prefer that it is 
handled locally where possible. The NaPTAN data is useful and good in 
parts but needs checking and improving too.

I think too much data is imported just because it is available - I 
prefer imports to add value. NaPTAN can add value but that is best 
realised by someone local to the import managing it.

Cheers, Chris

Roger Slevin wrote:
 Thomas

 If you want a refresh of the NaPTAN dataset, then just ask me  and I
 will arrange for this be made available.  I appreciate that this could be a
 two-edged sword  it would update the data, but in the areas where work
 has already been done on the data from a year ago, it may over-write any
 local edits made to that data - or has this already been taken into account,
 so that new data would sit alongside existing data and would only be
 accepted if it is appropriate at each location?

 Cheers

 Roger

 -Original Message-
 From: talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org
 [mailto:talk-transit-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Wood
 Sent: 13 March 2010 12:45 PM
 To: osm; OSM - Talk GB
 Subject: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN - Time for the rest?

 Hello all,
 It's now been more than a year since we got permission to import the
 NaPTAN dataset, so far only 53 of the 143 counties that we have the
 data for have been imported.

 So, in short, is it time for the rest to be dumped in?

 Discussion please.

 Regards,
 Thomas

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