[Talk-transit] [GTFS import] How to automatically add bus stops to relations?

2010-09-08 Thread Michał Borsuk
Hello.

Thanks to Roland Olbricht's Public Transport plugin, I have successfully
merged existing bus stops with my GTFS data. There was a part of the work
that required manual human intervention, e.g. mapping existing bus stops to
the imported ones, but the second part, that is mapping bus stops (nodes) to
lines (relations) can be done automatically.

Any ideas how to do it?



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Re: [Talk-transit] [GTFS import] How to automatically add bus stops to relations?

2010-09-08 Thread john whelan
What is the licensing on the GTFS data?

Thanks John

On 8 September 2010 10:26, Michał Borsuk michal.bor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.

 Thanks to Roland Olbricht's Public Transport plugin, I have successfully
 merged existing bus stops with my GTFS data. There was a part of the work
 that required manual human intervention, e.g. mapping existing bus stops to
 the imported ones, but the second part, that is mapping bus stops (nodes) to
 lines (relations) can be done automatically.

 Any ideas how to do it?



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Re: [Talk-transit] [GTFS import] How to automatically add bus stops to relations?

2010-09-08 Thread Khoa Tran
Hi Michal,
We're developing an application to do just exactly what you want. We have
successfully run a test on Hillsborough Area Regional Transit (HART) in
Tampa, FL, USA. However, it's in a premature stage and need just a little
bit more of the GUI. If you don't mind, you can post the link of your GTFS
dataset and let us run a test on your dataset. We'll let you know the
result. Otherwise, you can visit the application's website at
http://code.google.com/p/gtfs-osm-sync/ . It's a java desktop application
and there's no jar file available yet. But we'll put something up very soon
with instructions on how to use the app.

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Michał Borsuk michal.bor...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello.

 Thanks to Roland Olbricht's Public Transport plugin, I have successfully
 merged existing bus stops with my GTFS data. There was a part of the work
 that required manual human intervention, e.g. mapping existing bus stops to
 the imported ones, but the second part, that is mapping bus stops (nodes) to
 lines (relations) can be done automatically.

 Any ideas how to do it?



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Re: [Talk-transit] [GTFS import] How to automatically add bus stops to relations?

2010-09-08 Thread Michał Borsuk
On 8 September 2010 18:55, Khoa Tran ktr...@mail.usf.edu wrote:

 Hi Michal,
 We're developing an application to do just exactly what you want. We have
 successfully run a test on Hillsborough Area Regional Transit (HART) in
 Tampa, FL, USA. However, it's in a premature stage and need just a little
 bit more of the GUI. If you don't mind, you can post the link of your GTFS
 dataset and let us run a test on your dataset. We'll let you know the
 result.


Unfortunately the dataset is larger than the licence, i.e. it contains parts
of other regions for which I have no permission to process and I don't
touch. I could possibly provide you the data once I'm finished processing
it, as I need to review stop names (it's done partially).

One problem I've encountered so far: does your program accept data within
qoutation marks? Our bus stops contain commas in the names, which is a GTFS
requirement, but didn't go well with the Public transport plugin for JOSM.

Otherwise, you can visit the application's website at
 http://code.google.com/p/gtfs-osm-sync/ . It's a java desktop application
 and there's no jar file available yet. But we'll put something up very soon
 with instructions on how to use the app.


I've been to your website, but where's the executable?


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Re: [Talk-transit] [GTFS import] How to automatically add bus stops to relations?

2010-09-08 Thread Khoa Tran
Because the application will upload a large amount of data into OSM, I'd
like to write some clear instructions first before put up the executable
file (jar file in this case). Otherwise, the OSM server would have false
data.
Below is what the application generates:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=28.05112lon=-82.42484zoom=17
http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=28.05112lon=-82.42484zoom=17
I'll try my best to put up the executable file by the end of this week. But
if you have your dataset before that, please post it cause I haven't tested
the application well yet (only on 2 dataset).

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Michał Borsuk michal.bor...@gmail.comwrote:



 On 8 September 2010 18:55, Khoa Tran ktr...@mail.usf.edu wrote:

 Hi Michal,
 We're developing an application to do just exactly what you want. We have
 successfully run a test on Hillsborough Area Regional Transit (HART) in
 Tampa, FL, USA. However, it's in a premature stage and need just a little
 bit more of the GUI. If you don't mind, you can post the link of your GTFS
 dataset and let us run a test on your dataset. We'll let you know the
 result.


 Unfortunately the dataset is larger than the licence, i.e. it contains
 parts of other regions for which I have no permission to process and I don't
 touch. I could possibly provide you the data once I'm finished processing
 it, as I need to review stop names (it's done partially).

 One problem I've encountered so far: does your program accept data within
 qoutation marks? Our bus stops contain commas in the names, which is a GTFS
 requirement, but didn't go well with the Public transport plugin for JOSM.

 Otherwise, you can visit the application's website at
 http://code.google.com/p/gtfs-osm-sync/ . It's a java desktop application
 and there's no jar file available yet. But we'll put something up very soon
 with instructions on how to use the app.


 I've been to your website, but where's the executable?


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Re: [Talk-transit] [GTFS import] How to automatically add bus stops to relations?

2010-09-08 Thread Michał Borsuk
On 8 September 2010 20:41, Khoa Tran ktr...@mail.usf.edu wrote:

 Because the application will upload a large amount of data into OSM, I'd
 like to write some clear instructions first before put up the executable
 file (jar file in this case). Otherwise, the OSM server would have false
 data.
 Below is what the application generates:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=28.05112lon=-82.42484zoom=17
  http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=28.05112lon=-82.42484zoom=17

Too good for my data as far as bus stops go. I have to review all the bus
stops, because offset of 50m is quite usual.

Are you sure we're talking about the same thing? Because all I'm looking for
is to match relations/lines from one dataset with stops from another. Stops
have to be added separately.



 I'll try my best to put up the executable file by the end of this week. But
 if you have your dataset before that, please post it cause I haven't tested
 the application well yet (only on 2 dataset).


OK, I'll try to somehow filter out foreign data, and post it for a test.



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