Re: [Talk-transit] Question about train stations

2023-10-27 Thread Christopher Parker via Talk-transit
I imagine the consequence of such tagging affects open Railway map?  Generally 
in the us it seems to show such stations as public transit, but maybe this is 
very country specific, of even site specific?
In my opinion it would be required that the station serve a railway line which 
on could purchase tickets or ride free in order to be tagged as public 
transport but I even wonder about Stations that once were active

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> On Oct 27, 2023, at 12:04 PM, Giulio Barba  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, I'm writing to get your opinion on train stations.
> In particular in reality the train stations used as attractions within the 
> theme parks.
> In your opinion, should these stations be tagged using the "public_transport" 
> key?
> Or given the type of service, is it not public transport?
> I also consulted the Italian list and different opinions were given.
> 
> Thank you all.
> Giulio Barba
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Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Mapping train services in Great Britain

2021-06-01 Thread Christopher Parker


On 6/1/2021 10:54 AM, Dave F via Talk-transit wrote:

What's wrong with consulting a timetable?


To consult a timetable you need to know what station to use.

This is currently a problem in open railway map.  You can search the map 
based on the name of the train station, but not based on actual towns or 
other locations.  It is even more of an annoying problem in north 
America where large swaths of the railway network have no passenger 
service and therefor no stations.  If you want to look at railways in 
Tennessee, for example, the closest you can get is Memphis, which is a 
long way and a lot of scrolling from Nashville, Johnson City or Bristol 
(a days drive).  [Of course the real problem here is the US passenger 
rail network, but we aren't going to fix that here.]


Christopher


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Re: [Talk-transit] Question regarding public_transport=stop_position

2020-04-02 Thread Christopher Parker
Lack of consensus means to tread carefully when deleting other people's 
work, in my opinion.  (I'm not talking about corrections, mind you).



On 4/2/2020 9:50 PM, Jarek Piórkowski wrote:

On Thu, 2 Apr 2020 at 20:19, Jack Armstrong  wrote:

The wiki for public_transport=stop_position states, “If the stop on the public 
transport route has a defined platform, there is no benefit in adding 
public_transport=stop_position. In these cases, do not use 
public_transport=stop_position to avoid duplication of information and 
confusion.” You can see the wiki page 
here:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstop_position

The conversations on the wiki discussion page seem to agree that stop_position 
is not needed where a defined platform exists.

I’m mapping railway and light-rail in a metropolitan area. Following the above 
wiki statement, I have removed stop positions where “defined platforms” are 
located. My goal is to follow the wiki, to…the…letter. Honestly, I don’t have a 
preference as to which manner railways are mapped.

A thing with a wiki is that it can be edited by anyone... the
statement you've quoted was added in November 2019
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Apublic_transport%3Dstop_position=revision=1922774=1805518
and is not part of the original voted-upon PTv2 proposal.

Unfortunately by now the various wiki and talk pages are a hash of
people declaring what's "necessary" and what's "confusing".
Traditionally, deciding on how to create tagging systems was done via
new tagging proposals were for, but unfortunately not everyone
respects this voted-upon scheme.


Again, my only goal is map correctly,

To put it bluntly, the OpenStreetMap community does not currently have
a consensus on how to map "correctly". Sorry.

--Jarek

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