Re: [Talk-transit] Line diagrams

2010-08-31 Thread Michał Borsuk
On 31 August 2010 10:05, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote:

  Looks to me like the platform is where the passengers wait (at the “bus
 stop”) and the “stop” role is where the bus physically stops on the way.


From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_stop :

The most widely accepted approach is to place bus stops nodes off *to one
side of the highway way*, so *not* with node being part of the way.  

Sorry, but to me it looks like yet another fun thing to complicate the
matter more than necessary. I use platform only where there is a
terminus-like structure, that is where there is more than one bus stop.




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Re: [Talk-transit] Line diagrams

2010-08-31 Thread Steffen

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Absender: Michał Borsuk
Datum: 30.08.2010 22:19



On 30 August 2010 18:34, Steffen dido_...@web.de
mailto:dido_...@web.de wrot

[3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/13639


Why are the bus stops in the relation above separately
mapped as a node (IMHO correct), and yet again as a platform?

It is mapped ala Oxomoa/ÖPNV-Schema. look here [4]

[4] 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Oxomoa/%C3%96PNV-Schema#Linienvariante 
or 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Oxomoa/Public_transport_schema#Line_variant



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Re: [Talk-transit] Line diagrams

2010-08-31 Thread Ed Loach
The nodes tagged highway=bus_stop (with role platform) are off to one side of 
the highway, so not part of the way. It is the nodes in the way that have the 
role stop. I personally wouldn’t bother with the latter as it should be obvious 
that the bus stops at the nearest point in the way in the relation where 
passengers transfer from the relevant platform “node” to the way. 

 

Ed

 

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On 31 August 2010 10:05, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote:

Looks to me like the platform is where the passengers wait (at the “bus stop”) 
and the “stop” role is where the bus physically stops on the way.


From http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_stop :

The most widely accepted approach is to place bus stops nodes off to one side 
of the highway way, so not with node being part of the way.  

Sorry, but to me it looks like yet another fun thing to complicate the matter 
more than necessary. I use platform only where there is a terminus-like 
structure, that is where there is more than one bus stop. 

 




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Re: [Talk-transit] Line diagrams

2010-08-31 Thread Michał Borsuk
On 31 August 2010 17:36, Steffen dido_...@web.de wrote:



[3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/13639


 Why are the bus stops in the relation above separately
 mapped as a node (IMHO correct), and yet again as a platform?


 It is mapped ala Oxomoa/ÖPNV-Schema.


Then drop the scheme at once. It is crazy. I bet  that it is responsible for
the suggestion that one route should be mapped twice, once in each
direction.




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Re: [Talk-transit] Line diagrams

2010-08-31 Thread Steffen

--- Original Nachricht ---
Absender: Michał Borsuk
Datum: 31.08.2010 18:14


On 31 August 2010 17:36, Steffen dido_...@web.de
mailto:dido_...@web.de wrote:



[3]
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/13639


Why are the bus stops in the relation above separately
mapped as a node (IMHO correct), and yet again as a
platform?


It is mapped ala Oxomoa/ÖPNV-Schema.


Then drop the scheme at once. It is crazy. I bet  that it is
responsible for the suggestion that one route should be
mapped twice, once in each direction.


Here is the whole one [4]. I hope, that is what you mine.

Steffen

[4] 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Oxomoa/Public_transport_schema



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Re: [Talk-transit] Line diagrams

2010-08-30 Thread Michał Borsuk
On 30 August 2010 18:34, Steffen dido_...@web.de wrot

 [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/13639


Why are the bus stops in the relation above separately mapped as a node
(IMHO correct), and yet again as a platform?



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[Talk-transit] Line diagrams

2010-02-24 Thread Roland Olbricht
Hello everybody,

to encourage mapping public transport, Tiziano and I have developed a line 
diagram generator that displays nice diagrams from (sufficiently properly 
mapped) bus routes. A showroom example is
http://78.46.81.38/misc/showroom.svg
generated by the URL

http://78.46.81.38/api/sketch-
line?network=APS%20Mobilit%C3%A0ref=22style=paduamax-cors-
below=12correspondences=100
(takes about a minute)

The tool is documented at
http://78.46.81.38/public_transport.html

Cheers,

Roland

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Re: [Talk-transit] Line diagrams

2010-02-24 Thread Melchior Moos
Wow, well done!

2010/2/24 Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.de

 Hello everybody,

 to encourage mapping public transport, Tiziano and I have developed a line
 diagram generator that displays nice diagrams from (sufficiently properly
 mapped) bus routes. A showroom example is
 http://78.46.81.38/misc/showroom.svg
 generated by the URL

 http://78.46.81.38/api/sketch-
 line?network=APS%20Mobilit%C3%A0ref=22style=paduamax-cors-
 below=12correspondences=100http://78.46.81.38/api/sketch-%0Aline?network=APS%20Mobilit%C3%A0ref=22style=paduamax-cors-%0Abelow=12correspondences=100
 (takes about a minute)

 The tool is documented at
 http://78.46.81.38/public_transport.html

 Cheers,

 Roland

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