[Talk-transit] Using route part relations in Route relations
Hi, I mapped all the PT going through my city during the past years. There are many common parts to these itineraries and it's cumbersome to have to mend them one by one on a regular basis. It would be a lot easier if it were possible to create route part relations, for example from one stop to the next and then be able to use these relations in the actual route relations. This would enable to map deviations for longer lasting road works as well. I could of course simply do this, but then no map rendering will be displaying them correctly anymore... If we could, one day, get this through and decided, I can create a Python script to help with the transition and another one to regularly do quality control checks. These scripts would run inside JOSM. Kind regards, Polyglot ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Using route part relations in Route relations
On 7/24/2012 6:38 AM, Jo wrote: It would be a lot easier if it were possible to create route part relations, for example from one stop to the next and then be able to use these relations in the actual route relations. This would enable to map deviations for longer lasting road works as well. There already exists relation type=route,route=bus. type=route_master then includes members of this relation. Does this address your issue? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route_master ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Using route part relations in Route relations
On 24/07/12 13:19, Mike N wrote: On 7/24/2012 6:38 AM, Jo wrote: It would be a lot easier if it were possible to create route part relations, for example from one stop to the next and then be able to use these relations in the actual route relations. This would enable to map deviations for longer lasting road works as well. So you want route part which might be used by several different routes and its variants. I get your point and have to say I had thought about similar before but I think it was/will get reject cause of complexity. You will end up with at least one more level of relations with the relation hierarchy even though it would save me a lot of work especially where I have several lines with up to six or seven variants all following the same road. There already exists relation type=route,route=bus. type=route_master then includes members of this relation. Does this address your issue? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route_master This is used to get all route variants in one relation cu fly ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] Using route part relations in Route relations
On 7/24/2012 10:32 AM, Jo wrote: Well, to be honest, I had hoped that everybody who is doing PT would have been screaming for this by now. It's a message on talk-fr by somebody who wants to start doing this for cycle route relations that triggered me into proposing it yet again. I have proposed it already when the PT scheme was introduced, but they didn't want to include it back then, as they feared it might be hard enough already to get it passed, without it. Of course it's an extra layer in the hierarchy, but it would be a lot more logical than the way it's done now. As far as adding complexity goes, it would actually reduce the number of relations a particular way would be part of. Somebody told me they got a bit scared after seeing this video: I see what you're referring to now. At one time I had fantasies of turning my OSM routes + a GTFS tool that works with OSM data over to the local transit authority to use with OpenTripPlanner. However when I performed the steps to modify a route by adding a loop in the center, I was quickly corrected. While they'll be able to use OpenTripPlanner, their future work will be with some general GTFS management tool, not OSM. ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
