Re: [Talk-us] National Park Mapping Party?

2009-06-17 Thread Sarah Manley
All,

I would be really interested in organizing a National Parks Mapping  
Party event. It would be great to have them going on throughout the US  
during the summer months. Does anyone have contacts with NPS staff? It  
would be ideal to get on their programs,. Maybe have group hikes that  
are mapping?

I live in the Bay Area, and would volunteer to organize a Yosemite  
Trip for last August/early September. OSM at Yosemite could use some  
work 
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.85&lon=-119.568&zoom=10&layers=B000FTF 
) I have never been out there, so send advice if you are interested  
and want to help me in planning.

If Yosemite is a bit too far for bay area folks, we could start with a  
focus on Point Reyes 
(http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.997&lon=-122.705&zoom=11&layers=B000FTF 
).

Cheers,
Sarah


On Jun 16, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Ian Dees wrote:
>>
>> If there is significant interest in it, I can quite easily adapt my
>> shp-to-osm to read .e00 files. I believe the GIS file reader  
>> library I'm
>> using has a plugin for .e00 files.
>
> That'd be awesome if you would.  The NPS has a lot of data available
> in .e00 format.  I'd like to at least get the park boundaries
> imported.
>
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Re: [Talk-us] National Park Mapping Party?

2009-06-17 Thread Tyler
>
> do you have a link for a USGS WMS server for JOSM? Is there a topo layer
> available in WGS84?
>

Do I ever.

http://terraservice.net/ogcmap.ashx?version=1.1.1&request=GetMap&Layers=drg&Styles=&SRS=EPSG:4326&format=image/jpeg&;

from
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Beej71#Terraserver_Aerial_Photos_with_the_JOSM_WMS_Plugin

see also: http://columbo.nrlssc.navy.mil/ogcwms/servlet/WMSServlet for many,
many, many, more WMS data sources (remember be sure to check the licensing
on data)
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Re: [Talk-us] National Park Mapping Party?

2009-06-17 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
>
> Do I ever.
>
>
> http://terraservice.net/ogcmap.ashx?version=1.1.1&request=GetMap&Layers=drg&Styles=&SRS=EPSG:4326&format=image/jpeg&;
>

this one isn't in wgs84 for drg layer. viewing is ok but can't be used in
josm
areal photo layer is working in wgs84


>
> from
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Beej71#Terraserver_Aerial_Photos_with_the_JOSM_WMS_Plugin
>
> see also: http://columbo.nrlssc.navy.mil/ogcwms/servlet/WMSServlet for
> many, many, many, more WMS data sources (remember be sure to check the
> licensing on data)
>
> huge list  will try to find some useful and license free one.
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Re: [Talk-us] National Park Mapping Party?

2009-06-17 Thread Dale Puch
Just a caution.
I was just checking this out and noticed that the highest zoom level
was shifted for the spot I checked.  The second highest matched yahoo
aerials, and existing OSM data pretty well.

So always verify your reference data.

Dale

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Tyler wrote:
>> do you have a link for a USGS WMS server for JOSM? Is there a topo layer
>> available in WGS84?
>
> Do I ever.
> http://terraservice.net/ogcmap.ashx?version=1.1.1&request=GetMap&Layers=drg&Styles=&SRS=EPSG:4326&format=image/jpeg&;
> from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Beej71#Terraserver_Aerial_Photos_with_the_JOSM_WMS_Plugin
> see also: http://columbo.nrlssc.navy.mil/ogcwms/servlet/WMSServlet for many,
> many, many, more WMS data sources (remember be sure to check the licensing
> on data)
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Re: [Talk-us] National Park Mapping Party?

2009-06-17 Thread Tyler
Apollinaris wrote:

> this one isn't in wgs84 for drg layer. viewing is ok but can't be used in
> josm

areal photo layer is working in wgs84


All of the http://terraservice.net/ WMS data can be automatically
re-projected into WGS84 (the SRS=EPSG:4326) whether or not it's all wonky
from there is a different story, and when it is off I believe it is due to
the underlying data.

Dale wrote:

> So always verify your reference data.


Definitely, I think at the highest zoom the resolution of the image exceeds
that of the data. I don't really like the USGS topo maps since in this area
all of the data is no longer good (if it ever was)
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[Talk-us] US Interstate ways alignment

2009-06-17 Thread Stephen Johnson
Some of the TIGER ways and nodes for Interstates in my area are way out of 
alignment. They are all over the map if you'll forgive the pun. I have several 
GPS tracks for most of the Interstate lanes. 

My question is what should I align the ways to? The center, inner or outside 
lanes? Is there some consensus for it which I have't found yet?

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Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate ways alignment

2009-06-17 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Stephen Johnson wrote:
> Some of the TIGER ways and nodes for Interstates in my area are way out of 
> alignment. They are all over the map if you'll forgive the pun. I have 
> several GPS tracks for most of the Interstate lanes.
>
> My question is what should I align the ways to? The center, inner or outside 
> lanes? Is there some consensus for it which I have't found yet?

When I'm working with Yahoo imagery, I try to align to the center of
the road which is as close as I can get really.

Cheers,

Adam

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Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate ways alignment

2009-06-17 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Stephen Johnson wrote:
> Some of the TIGER ways and nodes for Interstates in my area are way out of 
> alignment. They are all over the map if you'll forgive the pun. I have 
> several GPS tracks for most of the Interstate lanes.
>
> My question is what should I align the ways to? The center, inner or outside 
> lanes? Is there some consensus for it which I have't found yet?

Ideally, the center of the carriageway (the middle of the paved area).
 In practice, on a 2-lane Interstate the right lane is essentially in
the middle once you factor in the shoulder, while on 3+ lane highways
it will be around the middle lane (where modern standards call for
equal shoulders on both sides of the carriageway).


Chris

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Re: [Talk-us] US Interstate ways alignment

2009-06-17 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 15:23 -0500, Stephen Johnson wrote:
> Some of the TIGER ways and nodes for Interstates in my area are way
> out of alignment. They are all over the map if you'll forgive the pun.
> I have several GPS tracks for most of the Interstate lanes. 
> 
> My question is what should I align the ways to? The center, inner or
> outside lanes? Is there some consensus for it which I have't found
> yet?

I'll echo Adam and Chris and say "align to the center of the driving
width".  Given one GPS track, it's easy to know where to put the line.
Given more than one, plus aerial imagery, you might never be sure.  ;-)
Use your judgement.  


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Re: [Talk-us] National Park Mapping Party?

2009-06-17 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
nobody is perfect.
terraserver has some major scanning errors in Yosemite and in other  
places too.
so far havn't found any on yahoo images but others reported them 


On 17 Jun 2009, at 12:36 , Dale Puch wrote:

> Just a caution.
> I was just checking this out and noticed that the highest zoom level
> was shifted for the spot I checked.  The second highest matched yahoo
> aerials, and existing OSM data pretty well.
>
> So always verify your reference data.
>
> Dale
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Tyler wrote:
>>> do you have a link for a USGS WMS server for JOSM? Is there a topo  
>>> layer
>>> available in WGS84?
>>
>> Do I ever.
>> http://terraservice.net/ogcmap.ashx?version=1.1.1&request=GetMap&Layers=drg&Styles=&SRS=EPSG:4326&format=image/jpeg&;
>> from 
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Beej71#Terraserver_Aerial_Photos_with_the_JOSM_WMS_Plugin
>> see also: http://columbo.nrlssc.navy.mil/ogcwms/servlet/WMSServlet  
>> for many,
>> many, many, more WMS data sources (remember be sure to check the  
>> licensing
>> on data)
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Re: [Talk-us] [Geowanking] Public source for National and State Park and Forest boundaries?

2009-06-17 Thread Tyler
I apologize for the cross-posting but there are relevant conversations now
on both OSM-talk and geowanking regarding this data.
I just took a quick look at a dozen or so different parks comparing the
federal lands data I linked earlier with the data Andrew Turner just posted.
Unsuprisingly the NPS data is of higher resolution at each of the sites I
checked out, and in a couple of cases the federal lands data has huge
inaccuracies (though it mostly looks like problems with borders between
federal lands). The federal lands data also lacks a projection (appears to
be NAD 1983).

If you use the federal lands data, I also suggest you toss the NPS boundary
data on there and use that where appropriate.

-Tyler Ritchie

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Andrew Turner
wrote:

> Here is a full catalog of NPS GIS data:
>
> http://science.nature.nps.gov/nrdata/index.cfm
>
> particularly: http://science.nature.nps.gov/nrdata/datastore.cfm?ID=47653
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Andrew
> Johnson wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Is there a public data source that contains boundary files for all the
> U.S.
> > National Parks and Forests? Perhaps also state parks?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Andrew
>
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