Re: [Talk-us] Motorway vs trunk
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 15:50 -0500, Richard Welty wrote: On 2/26/10 3:14 PM, Nakor Osm wrote: What is the distinction made between trunk and motorways for tagging in the US. As an example should this portion of US41 ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.8967lon=-87.6177zoom=14 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.8967lon=-87.6177zoom=14 ) be a motorway or a trunk? for all practical purposes, a trunk is a motorway-wannabe, but with grade level crossings of some sort, either with stop signs for the lesser roads, or traffic lights. you generally won't see driveways or businesses directly on trunks, there will often be frontage roads for that. the portion of US 41 you point out is a bit schzoid, mostly grade separated but with a scattering of grade level crossings. the points with grade level crossings should certainly be trunk. Well, it's going to look goofy on the map to have dotted green and blue lines. I'd say that you also need to consider how long the segment is. I have a divided road with fences on both sides and limited access near my house. There's a 25ft stretch of it with limited access. Is that a motorway for 25ft? ;) I think that motorways need to be relatively long. At least a number of miles of solid motorway to *be* a motorway. -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Motorway vs trunk
At 2010-02-26 12:50, Richard Welty wrote: On 2/26/10 3:14 PM, Nakor Osm wrote: What is the distinction made between trunk and motorways for tagging in the US. As an example should this portion of US41 ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.8967lon=-87.6177zoom=14 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.8967lon=-87.6177zoom=14 ) be a motorway or a trunk? for all practical purposes, a trunk is a motorway-wannabe, but with grade level crossings of some sort, either with stop signs for the lesser roads, or traffic lights. you generally won't see driveways or businesses directly on trunks, there will often be frontage roads for that. Agreed. IMO, what downgrades a motorway to a trunk is the presence of anything that stops traffic on the main roadway for intersecting traffic (signals, stop signs, or yield signs). Really, anything more than just a very occasional road intersection that does not occur via ramps, or driveway, should be grounds to call it a trunk (or even lower). In the example, I'd call US41 trunk from Monroe St down to Waldron Dr, and motorway above and below that (at least for the area I looked at), simply based on the appearance of ramp-style intersections vs. traffic-signal-controlled perpendicular intersections. I'm guessing that speed limits would give further justification. -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Motorway vs trunk
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Dave Hansen d...@sr71.net wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 15:50 -0500, Richard Welty wrote: the portion of US 41 you point out is a bit schzoid, mostly grade separated but with a scattering of grade level crossings. the points with grade level crossings should certainly be trunk. Well, it's going to look goofy on the map to have dotted green and blue lines. I'd say that you also need to consider how long the segment is. I have a divided road with fences on both sides and limited access near my house. There's a 25ft stretch of it with limited access. Is that a motorway for 25ft? ;) Yikes, Dave. Somebody could take you at face value and suggest that on the wiki. I think that motorways need to be relatively long. At least a number of miles of solid motorway to *be* a motorway. Exactly. Consider the whole road. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] National Forest signs
How should one tag the name signs at the entrance to a national forest (e.g. http://sites.google.com/site/am909geo/osm-1/DSCS5938_small.jpg?attredirects=0d=1 )? boundary=national_park is an error according to JOSM rendering rules. landuse=forest renders and icon in JOSM, but I thought landuse=* was generally for areas? -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
