Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Mapping error

2010-05-20 Thread Richard Weait
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:33 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
 Anyone near Carlsbad, CA? The guy sent me an image too showing where the bug
 is.

 Yours c.
 Steve
 Begin forwarded message:

 From: Gerry Sikora gerrysik...@mac.com
 Date: May 19, 2010 9:51:11 MDT
 To: st...@asklater.com
 Subject: Mapping error

 Sorry I can't correct an error, but I hoping that you can pass this along.
 There is a relatively new housing development in Carlsbad California.  The
 open map shows what I believe is a road proposal of the developer and not
 the as built map.   Some of the names are correct but that's about it.

I've added Gerry's report to OpenStreetBugs.  Anybody in / near
Carlsbad care to check this out?

http://openstreetbugs.schokokeks.org/?lat=33.10058lon=-117.29969zoom=15layers=B00T

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[Talk-us] Cloudmade california.osm: dups or osmosis bug?

2010-05-20 Thread David Carmean

Is it the dataset or osmosis that is giving me a single 2-node duplicate 
for each postGIS table created by osmosis?

Or PEBCAK?


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Re: [Talk-us] Appalachian Trail data

2010-05-20 Thread Sam Vekemans
Yup,
Then it's a good reason to go an physically survey it.
It's fine to load the .gpx file onto your device... as long as your
physically hiking/waking/driving to the TrailHeads, it's fine to use... then
you manualy update OSM that way.

... just because the AT data is Official  doesn't mean that it is actually
accurate to the physical land.

I am finding the same with the Trans Canada Trail  gpx data.   In some
cases, the source data was collected a long time ago and local area trail
groups have changed the trail but didn't tell the Master Source of Trans
Canada Trail that it's been updated.  (and sometimes the origional data was
collected when the trail is along railbeds that are in Canyons so the GPS
recieves a poor signal.   In those area's i see a 20 meter difference.   And
in other areas i found that the route is changed.

Happy Hiking :-)

You can also post your trail/route over on GPSies.com   that system will
donate your GPS tracks to OSM.   So it's a Win-win.  (GPSies.com also uses
OpenCycleMap as a background map so that's great too)

Cheers,
Sam Vekemans
Across Canada Trails

... PS.  Im getting ready to bike the entire Trans Canada Trail.  but
there is one problem. .. the Trans Canada Trail is a Greenway  and not a
Biking Trail nor is it a hiking trail  ... LOL  :-)
... at least the Appalachian Trail is actually a designated Hiking
Trail,
PPS.  yes, im also working on the National Hiking Trail  (unfortunately the
folks working on it have sold their sole to the Trans Canada Trail)  :(
... so that knowone will be able to actually use the TCT end-to-end 
oh well, more work for me :-)   (see above username)  :-)
 but 1st I need a detailed basemap.  So for you, it's a good thing that
TIGER has already been imported, so its just a matter of correcting as you
go.


On Thu, May 20, 2010  8:10 PM, Eric Christensen e...@christensenplace.uswrote:

 I'm getting ready to hike a small portion of the Appalachian Trail (AT)
 and was looking for data to put into my GPS.  It appears that portions
 of the AT have been added to OSM with some missing sections.

 The Appalachian Trail Conservancy has some interesting information on
 their website[1] which looks like good information for OSM but I don't
 see any licensing information, at first glance.

 Has anyone contacted them about possible inclusion of their data into
 OSM?  If not, I could try to work with them so we could include their
 data.  It would be a great asset to have.


 [1]

 http://www.appalachiantrail.org/site/c.mqLTIYOwGlF/b.4805623/k.438D/Appalachian_Trail_GIS_and_GPS_Data.htm

 Thanks,
 Eric Christensen


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[Talk-us] Address Lookup

2010-05-20 Thread Val Kartchner
On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 08:54 -0500, Lord-Castillo, Brett wrote:
 If someone were to use OSM for dispatching, dispatching software generally 
 requires a destination address to be associated with a corresponding street 
 in order to dispatch to an address point (as opposed to dispatching to an 
 interpolated street geocode). That would be one reason for associating 
 objects with the streets they are on. It is also useful for non-USPS situs 
 addresses (for example, parcel lot addresses for office buildings or condos).
 
 Brett Lord-Castillo
 Information Systems Designer/GIS Programmer
 St. Louis County Police
 Office of Emergency Management
 14847 Ladue Bluffs Crossing Drive
 Chesterfield, MO 63017
 Office: 314-628-5400
 Fax: 314-628-5508
 Direct: 314-628-5407
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 
 Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 23:00:45 -0400
 From: David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Street Naming Conventions
 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org
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 On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Phil! Gold phi...@pobox.com wrote:
  * David ``Smith'' vidthe...@gmail.com [2010-05-14 23:58 -0400]:
  5) The value of addr:street=* should contain the abbreviated form of
  the street name according to USPS standards, regardless of the way the
  street name is signed.
 
  The point of addr:street is to associate the address to a particular road,
  so its value needs to match the name of the road. ?(There's also the
  associatedStreet relation, but more people use the addr:street tag.)
 
 As Frederik already asserted, that's incorrect.  But if for some
 reason you need to associate an object with a street without using an
 AssociatedStreet relation, you could always give the street its own
 addr:street tag with the same value as all of the objects along it,
 which uses the same USPS-based abbreviation.  But I'm not sure what is
 accomplished by associating objects with the street they're on.  (As
 far as I know, the original point of the associatedStreet relation was
 to automatically imply addr:street values for all of the objects by
 using the street's name or addr:street value.  What you said is kind
 of backwards from that.)

The goal of Open Street Map is to eventually do everything that
commercial map products do.  This would include address lookup.

I've looked around and the way of associating addresses with streets
doesn't seem to work very well.  The simplest way (requiring the fewest
nodes) still requires a lot of work.

For instance, for an example I've picked a street around my area: West
2550 North.  This is just the ways needed for the streets themselves.
(I didn't include the names on the cross streets because they don't
matter for this example.)

AB  C   D   E
||  |   |   |
||  |   |   |
+--+-+--+---+---+---+---+--
   ||   |   |   |   |
   ||   |   |   |   |
   FG   H

From what I understand, next to each place where another street
intersects this street I will have to create another node (on each side
of the street) tagged with addr:street and addr:housenumber.  I will
need to connect the nodes on each side of the street with a relation.
The relation I will need to tag with addr:interpolation and even/odd,
as appropriate.  This makes the simple street above now look like
this:

AB  C   D   E
||  |   |   |
||  |   |   |
**--*---*---*---*---*-*
+--+-+--+---+---+---+---+--
**--*---*---*---*---*-*
   ||   |   |   |   |
   ||   |   |   |   |
   FG   H

This is a LOT of data to manually add.  Is there a simpler way?

No, I don't have a better idea.

- Val -


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