Re: [Talk-us] Tagging of county roads
At 2010-05-25 22:55, Apollinaris Schoell wrote: On 26 May 2010, at 24:25 , Alan Mintz wrote: It seems that the county road number should go in the ref tag, and this is what I've seen in some cases, but where should the county and state go? I've used is_in:county and is_in:state_code in the past for other things (like bridges and mileposts), but people don't seem to like these, and they're not exactly right - I'm not trying to say where the roads are, just complete the reference tag with what's on the signage. you answered already, is_in is wrong for this purpose. the ref tag is the place to use. Currently, for example, I'd tag Santiago Canyon Road in Orange County, CA, as: highway=secondary ref=S18 is_in:county=Orange is_in:state_code=CA what does the S mean in the ref? It's just a part of the reference numbering. County road references are a letter followed by one or more numbers, and this is how it's signed (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Route_S18_%28California%29 for the example mentioned below). is it a state route or a county road? I'm talking about county roads, not state routes. I think most use CA for state hw. It's hard to tell if this is correct. Even hw shields are inconsistent. most shields in california use the number only but some shields and official documents use other abbrev like SR. I think to match the what's on the ground rule we should change CA to SR, but it's very common across US already and only if there is a broad consensus this should be done It seems you are talking about state routes here, not county roads. Does it make sense to add a network=US:CA:Orange tag (like the relation) instead of the is_in:* tags? this is as wrong as is_in tags, someone invented it to tag for a renderer. network=Orange should be sufficient and correct. But there are counties named Orange in other states, which is why I want to include the state somehow - it's as important a part of the complete reference as the county. -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Tagging of county roads
On 26 May 2010, at 10:11 , Alan Mintz wrote: what does the S mean in the ref? It's just a part of the reference numbering. County road references are a letter followed by one or more numbers, and this is how it's signed (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Route_S18_%28California%29 for the example mentioned below). is it a state route or a county road? I'm talking about county roads, not state routes. In other counties in CA they are J, never seen the S for county roads. good to know I think most use CA for state hw. It's hard to tell if this is correct. Even hw shields are inconsistent. most shields in california use the number only but some shields and official documents use other abbrev like SR. I think to match the what's on the ground rule we should change CA to SR, but it's very common across US already and only if there is a broad consensus this should be done It seems you are talking about state routes here, not county roads. yes, similar situation tough. quite inconsistent in reality and in osm Does it make sense to add a network=US:CA:Orange tag (like the relation) instead of the is_in:* tags? this is as wrong as is_in tags, someone invented it to tag for a renderer. network=Orange should be sufficient and correct. But there are counties named Orange in other states, which is why I want to include the state somehow - it's as important a part of the complete reference as the county. not really needed, the state and country polygons with the coordinates define where it is. sure there is some redundant info in osm and it doesn't harm to have more data. in general the better tag structure and very common approach is to define a namespace like this network=Orange network:state=CA (or california to make it human readable) network:country=US, but this is probably overkill this is much easier to understand for humans and it is easier to parse by applications. packing all info into a single tag value by some cryptic codes is tagging for a specific application. -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
