Re: [Talk-us] Percentage of data imported vs mapped

2010-06-26 Thread Greg Troxel

Val Kartchner  writes:

> On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 06:51 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
>> This is true for roads, but TIGER/massgis did not have hiking trails.
>> Around Boston there are starting to be a lot of trails mapped - I keep
>> noticing improvements by others.  Plus there's parking lots and
>> buildings in built-up areas.
>
> I've wanted to tag the trail heads for the paths I've added.  I've
> searched for such a tag in the wiki with no luck.  It would be like the
> tag for parking: An area would indicate parking as well while a point
> may indicate parking.

trailhead as a point is an interesting concept, and hard to pin down.
It seems to apply to bigger trails more than anything else.
Conceptually, what distinguishes something you'd call a trailhead?  To
me, a trailhead doesn't necessarily have good parking, but somehow
stands out as a hike start/end location because the trail that comes to
the road is particularly important.

If a trailhead is just amenity=parking and information=board, we have a
way to represent those.

So I think what's really missing is some way to label some
highway=footway as more important than others.




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Re: [Talk-us] umapper, linux, and YOU!

2010-06-26 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Nakor  wrote:
> On 06/26/2010 12:43 PM, Nakor wrote:
>>
>> On 06/26/2010 11:53 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't work for me, either. It loads, but I get a half-blue map that I
>>> can't do anything with.

well that was annoying, but i now have flash 10.1 and can see the map.
thanks to everyone who helped me pinpoint this!

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Re: [Talk-us] umapper, linux, and YOU!

2010-06-26 Thread Nakor

On 06/26/2010 12:43 PM, Nakor wrote:

On 06/26/2010 11:53 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:


Doesn't work for me, either. It loads, but I get a half-blue map that I
can't do anything with.


Same behavior for me:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100330
Fedora/3.5.9-2.fc12 Firefox/3.5.9

Shockwave Flash

File name: nswrapper_64_64.libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 10.0 r45


 From Adobe website: You have version 10,0,45,2 installed

Thanks,

N.


I updated Firefox and I was still seeing the issue. I then updated flash 
and it works fine now:


Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.10) Gecko/20100622 
Fedora/3.5.10-1.fc12 Firefox/3.5.10


Shockwave Flash

File name: nswrapper_32_64.libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 10.1 r53

From Adobe website: You have version 10,1,53,64 installed

Thanks,

N.

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Re: [Talk-us] umapper, linux, and YOU!

2010-06-26 Thread Nakor

On 06/26/2010 11:53 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:


Doesn't work for me, either.  It loads, but I get a half-blue map that I
can't do anything with.


Same behavior for me:

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100330 
Fedora/3.5.9-2.fc12 Firefox/3.5.9


Shockwave Flash

File name: nswrapper_64_64.libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 10.0 r45


From Adobe website: You have version 10,0,45,2 installed

Thanks,

N.

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Re: [Talk-us] Trailhead tagging

2010-06-26 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:30 AM, Val Kartchner  wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 06:51 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
>> Bill Ricker  writes:
>> This is true for roads, but TIGER/massgis did not have hiking trails.
>> Around Boston there are starting to be a lot of trails mapped - I keep
>> noticing improvements by others.  Plus there's parking lots and
>> buildings in built-up areas.
>
> I've wanted to tag the trail heads for the paths I've added.  I've
> searched for such a tag in the wiki with no luck.  It would be like the
> tag for parking: An area would indicate parking as well while a point
> may indicate parking.

This come up on talk this week as well.  Check the replies there.
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2010-June/051260.html

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Re: [Talk-us] umapper, linux, and YOU!

2010-06-26 Thread Dave Hansen
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 06:02 -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote:
> last night i made a map on umapper from my windows box. was able to
> create and view it fine.
> this morning i went to view it from my lenny machine and i am unable
> to pan / view the map.
> 
> the site is flash based, but i am able to look at other flash sites
> without issue.
> are there other versions of flash that are out in the world that can
> see and pan this link?
> 
> http://www.umapper.com/maps/view/id/70013/
> 
> i want to know if this is just my build of flash, or a general linux
> wont go there?
> 
> iceweasel 3.0.6 libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux

Doesn't work for me, either.  It loads, but I get a half-blue map that I
can't do anything with.  Could be some kind of 32 vs. 64-bit issue.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.3) Gecko/20100408
Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Firefox/3.6.3

Shockwave Flash
File: libflashplayer.so
Version: 
Shockwave Flash 10.0 r45

This:

http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

says:

You have version 10,0,45,2 installed

-- Dave


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Re: [Talk-us] Percentage of data imported vs mapped

2010-06-26 Thread Val Kartchner
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 06:51 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
> Bill Ricker  writes:
> This is true for roads, but TIGER/massgis did not have hiking trails.
> Around Boston there are starting to be a lot of trails mapped - I keep
> noticing improvements by others.  Plus there's parking lots and
> buildings in built-up areas.

I've wanted to tag the trail heads for the paths I've added.  I've
searched for such a tag in the wiki with no luck.  It would be like the
tag for parking: An area would indicate parking as well while a point
may indicate parking.

- Val -


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Re: [Talk-us] umapper, linux, and YOU!

2010-06-26 Thread Bill Ricker
I am still on Ubuntu Karmic, and can see a map on that link

adobe-flashplugin/karmic uptodate 10.1.53.64-1karmic1
firefox-3.0/karmic-security uptodate 3.5.9+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1

-- 
Bill
n1...@arrl.net bill.n1...@gmail.com
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[Talk-us] umapper, linux, and YOU!

2010-06-26 Thread jeremy jozwik
last night i made a map on umapper from my windows box. was able to
create and view it fine.
this morning i went to view it from my lenny machine and i am unable
to pan / view the map.

the site is flash based, but i am able to look at other flash sites
without issue.
are there other versions of flash that are out in the world that can
see and pan this link?

http://www.umapper.com/maps/view/id/70013/

i want to know if this is just my build of flash, or a general linux
wont go there?

iceweasel 3.0.6 libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux

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Re: [Talk-us] Percentage of data imported vs mapped

2010-06-26 Thread Greg Troxel

Bill Ricker  writes:

> not having to reverse engineer the map since the TIGER was available
> (and other sources are coming available some faster some slower Eg,
> MASS was loaded from state data not Tiger) results in much more
> 'studio' work (fixing TIGER overpasses to pass over not intersect,
> fixing TIGER ramps to intersect the motorway so oneways go right) and
> much less of what the rest-of-OSM call 'real mapping' field
> work. Every year in any community, there are a few new streets, some
> new big buildings, a few realigned intersections, but there are no
> vast areas of white empty map to go on a mapping expedition.

This is true for roads, but TIGER/massgis did not have hiking trails.
Around Boston there are starting to be a lot of trails mapped - I keep
noticing improvements by others.  Plus there's parking lots and
buildings in built-up areas.

So there are opportunities for 'real mapping', and I find it perfectly
cool to build on what's there, and don't find myself wishing at all that
we didn't have massgis data.


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