Re: [Talk-us] State abbreviations
Toby Murray wrote: Well I started downloading data from the XAPI... Turns out Alaska doesn't seem to have a boundary relation! Or am I missing something? Alaska's border is also the US border, which *is* there... ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] FW: [osm-professional] Regional Street Centerline Solution - Minneapolis- St. Paul metro area - RFP
On 13 Jul 2010, at 6:34 , Ian Dees wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:39 AM, McGuire, Matthew matt.mcgu...@metc.state.mn.us wrote: For example: - The proposal requires unique, persistent IDs for landmarks/points of interest. OSM does not have an accepted way of storing persistent IDs. there is a wikipedia project trying to achieve this. As far as I understand they try to do some local search and pattern match of tags. But there is no way to get persistent ID. A POI node can be changed to to a way or relation whenever better knowledge allows to do this. - Addressing information (even if it is address ranges) is a necessity. Anything we can do to make entering address information easier and more interesting would increase the usefulness of OSM for a much wider range of people. this is a lot of work and given that Tiger offers address interpolation already there is not so much incentive to do this. building an address DB based on Tiger provides a consistent quality but anything in osm will vary widely. In the long term individual address data will be useful for osm. But this is a huge project and will need 10-100x more active mappers at least. some counties or cities may provide such data. Then we can for sure import it. - Updates and changes that are accepted into and created from the dataset need to be stored somehow in a status database. This sounds a lot like our history page, but the history page is full of changesets that don't have changes in the region. As has been discussed before, a tool to view a real history for an area would be useful. should be easy to implement by parsing minutely/hourly diffs. the history page requires queries to the main DB and if someone starts to do heavy access they might get blocked by the admins Having said that, does anyone want to work with me on a proposal, even if it only ends up giving us feedback on our data from a real external group? the way osm works is so different that this doesn't make much sense. a DB where anyone at any time can modify, delete data will require constant tracking for which they will definitely need their own db. So why even bother with osm at all. using the osm toolchain is an option which can make sense. then all kinds of extensions like limited access for can be implemented. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] FW: [osm-professional] Regional Street Centerline Solution - Minneapolis- St. Paul metro area - RFP
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Apollinaris Schoell ascho...@gmail.comwrote: the way osm works is so different that this doesn't make much sense. a DB where anyone at any time can modify, delete data will require constant tracking for which they will definitely need their own db. So why even bother with osm at all. using the osm toolchain is an option which can make sense. then all kinds of extensions like limited access for can be implemented. Part of the point I was trying to make was that if our response to requests like this is always something along the lines of the way OSM works is different so it doesn't make much sense, then maybe we're doing something wrong. Who will use our data (beyond plopping OpenLayers down and using OSM tiles) if there are no tools to allow it to work with outside entities? the whole point of starting osm was to do things different. to allow editing for non GIS folks, make new things possible. If someone needs traditional GIS then use traditional GIS. They want shape import and shape export. Any GIS system does this out of the box. if osm provides more or better data there will be users for it. users will combine public data from other sources and osm data. I see absolute no reason to dump all public data to osm just because it exists, maintain an external version control and do a conversion back to traditional GIS. as soon as data is exported from osm it is tainted with the license and will never be of much us for such projects. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] student dues for OSM-US chapter
The board voted tonight to create a student dues category at $15/year. The changes to the membership signup have been rolled out, at http://www.openstreetmap.us/membership/ Richard Welty Secretary, OSM-US ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
