Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles

2012-01-16 Thread Nick Hocking
Thanks Ian,

This in conjunctin with Bing imagery makes finding new neighbourhoods
really easy.

Of course at the same time I always clean up a few nearby decliner edits as
well.
And where a decliner has taken over  a Tiger road it is now very easy to
just
blow it away and remap it from the new Tiger stuff.

Nick
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Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles

2012-01-16 Thread Kristian M Zoerhoff
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:11:49PM -0600, Ian Dees wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 In order to assist with road name checking I've set up a Mapnik layer
 rendering from TIGER 2011 ROADS data. It consists of a transparent tile
 with a white line (of varying thickness for the different MTFCC's) for the
 road and white text for the road's full name. I did this with JOSM in mind
 (which will stack imagery layers). I haven't tested it in P2 but would be
 happy to set up a different style for users of P2. It's designed for higher
 zooms and I don't do anything particular for low zooms. In fact it looks
 pretty noisy and slow, but it still works.
 
 The JOSM TMS URL is http://{switch:a,b,c}.
 tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2011_roads/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
 
 I have grand plans to create vector layers as well (to allow for
 spot-importing of TIGER data), but I don't have time to do that currently.
 Let me know if you have any ideas to make it better.

I got it working in Potlatch 2 [*], but as someone else mentioned, the white 
layer is invisible on Potlatch's default manilla background. The 
black-outlined text labels are fine.

Otherwise, it looks awesome. Nice work!



* As http://tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2011_roads/$z/$x/$y.png in the 
Background menu. 

-- 

Kristian M Zoerhoff


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Re: [Talk-us] name expansion bot (Re: Imports information on the wiki)

2012-01-16 Thread Val Kartchner
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 18:47 +0100, andrzej zaborowski wrote:
 Perhaps checking if either the name= tag or the direction_suffix tag
 has ever been edited by a human would be a good measure.  The ways
 which have been edited might need to be manually reviewed if they
 contain an unexpanded N, E, W or S.

In my area I know of two separate streets named E Avenue and an E
Street.  The first bot going through got two of these, but I contacted
the owner before it got to the third.  If another bot comes through and
corrects these, it will probably do the same (wrong) thing.

- Val -


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Re: [Talk-us] What is a dual carriageway?

2012-01-16 Thread Val Kartchner
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 10:45 -0700, Martijn van Exel wrote:


 I only map two separate ways when there's a median you can't cross, so
 the two directions are physically separate. By that rationale, it
 should be one way feature. I am curious if other mappers use the same
 convention.

That's the way that I map it too.  Except that reminds me of a section
of road that I have to fix to follow the convention I've used elsewhere.

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[Talk-us] Finding new roads

2012-01-16 Thread Nick Hocking
I believe that OSm's most usefull attribute is to be up to date.

The only real way to do this is with a local mapper but bringing
the USA up to Tiger 2011 up-to-datedness would be a great start.


Are there tools to

1. Compare named OSM roads with Tiger 2011 roads and highlight
just the  new ones.

2.Compare Bing imagery with Tiger 2011 and highlight any
apparent sealed roads that do not have Tiger 2011 ways.

Roads currently traced but not named can already be targeted
well using OSMI highways facility and could be fixed first.

Nick
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Re: [Talk-us] Finding new roads

2012-01-16 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe that OSm's most usefull attribute is to be up to date.

 The only real way to do this is with a local mapper but bringing
 the USA up to Tiger 2011 up-to-datedness would be a great start.


 Are there tools to

 1. Compare named OSM roads with Tiger 2011 roads and highlight
 just the  new ones.

I forget who originally posted this but the only thing along these
lines that I've seen before is to convert new TIGER data to .osm and
then load it up as a second layer in JOSM. Change the inactive color
to something bright and then load current OSM data on top as the
active layer. At an appropriate zoom level the bright colored,
inactive background layer with new data will only show where there is
not any existing OSM data to blot it out.

But that is kind of cumbersome and will only work for relatively small
areas. An ideal solution would be to come up with tiles that only
render data from TIGER 2011 that doesn't already exist in OSM and then
have a tool to facilitate importing missing areas. But that doesn't
exactly strike me as easy.

Alternatively, we could grow the community and not have to rely on
TIGER. This also seems hard though :(

Toby

Toby

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