[Talk-us] Remapping coastlines
Paul Norman has been looking at coastlines as it relates to the license change. Turns out we have a big problem along the west coast. Does anyone know what the best usable source for coastline data in the US is? Surely there is something better than PGS? I poked around looking at some NHD data but didn't see an explicit coastline data set. But since I haven't worked with NHD much and, being in a landlocked state, haven't touched coastlines at all I'm looking for some input from someone with more experience on the subject. Thoughts? Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] South Carolina North Carolina border shifting to the South
On 3/24/2012 1:37 AM, Toby Murray wrote: On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 8:35 PM, James Mastrickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: I just saw this mentioned on MSNBC and thought I would let everybody know about this since we would have to adjust the border in the future when it becomes official. It seems that North Carolina will gain 150 feet of current South Carolina. This will mostly cause problems in the Charlotte area. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46832892/ns/us_news-life/ This is a fascinating lesson about authoritative data if you ask me :) There are many places where borders don't match the original definition. Usually they end up changing the definition. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Remapping coastlines
From: Toby Murray [mailto:toby.mur...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 1:22 AM To: talk-us Subject: [Talk-us] Remapping coastlines Paul Norman has been looking at coastlines as it relates to the license change. Turns out we have a big problem along the west coast. Does anyone know what the best usable source for coastline data in the US is? Surely there is something better than PGS? I poked around looking at some NHD data but didn't see an explicit coastline data set. But since I haven't worked with NHD much and, being in a landlocked state, haven't touched coastlines at all I'm looking for some input from someone with more experience on the subject. Thoughts? Pictures of the west coast and the great lakes, the two problem areas http://maps.paulnorman.ca/coastlines-na-lakes.png http://maps.paulnorman.ca/coastlines-na-west.png The east coast and gulf aren't too bad in comparison. Is adopting changesets an option if blars just uploaded PGS data for the west coast? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Problem user
What do we do about user balrog-kun? He apparently declined the new terms, but he is using an alternate account that has accepted the new terms. He is a prolific editor in the areas I work in (San Antonio and California). Would we end up deleting everything he has touched? (And in effect, from my limited experience, a relatively large portion of the country.) -Alexander ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Problem user
On 3/24/2012 9:06 AM, Alexander Jones wrote: What do we do about user balrog-kun? He apparently declined the new terms, but he is using an alternate account that has accepted the new terms. He is a prolific editor in the areas I work in (San Antonio and California). Would we end up deleting everything he has touched? (And in effect, from my limited experience, a relatively large portion of the country.) I believe this has been, or will be resolved: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2012-January/007233.html ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Problem user
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 3/24/2012 9:06 AM, Alexander Jones wrote: What do we do about user balrog-kun? He apparently declined the new terms, but he is using an alternate account that has accepted the new terms. He is a prolific editor in the areas I work in (San Antonio and California). Would we end up deleting everything he has touched? (And in effect, from my limited experience, a relatively large portion of the country.) I believe this has been, or will be resolved: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2012-January/007233.html This should already be taken into account in the license change algorithm. I worked with him on IRC to come up with a query of all of his changesets outside of Poland and put them all on the changeset exclude list: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quick_History_Service/Changeset_Lists#balrog-kun_bot.2Fbbox_edits He will still show up in various history views (JOSM history, the deep history viewer on mapki.com, etc) as having declined the license but the objects he has touched should not be showing as license dirty in the JOSM license check plugin or the Potlatch license view. Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Problem user
Toby Murray wrote: On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 3/24/2012 9:06 AM, Alexander Jones wrote: What do we do about user balrog-kun? He apparently declined the new terms, but he is using an alternate account that has accepted the new terms. He is a prolific editor in the areas I work in (San Antonio and California). Would we end up deleting everything he has touched? (And in effect, from my limited experience, a relatively large portion of the country.) I believe this has been, or will be resolved: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2012-January/007233.html This should already be taken into account in the license change algorithm. I worked with him on IRC to come up with a query of all of his changesets outside of Poland and put them all on the changeset exclude list: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quick_History_Service/Changeset_Lists#balrog- kun_bot.2Fbbox_edits He will still show up in various history views (JOSM history, the deep history viewer on mapki.com, etc) as having declined the license but the objects he has touched should not be showing as license dirty in the JOSM license check plugin or the Potlatch license view. Toby Got it. Thanks. -Alexander ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Remapping coastlines
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote: On 3/24/2012 4:22 AM, Toby Murray wrote: I poked around looking at some NHD data but didn't see an explicit coastline data set. I believe feature code 44500 (Sea/Ocean) is what OSM would call Coastlines - and normally excluded from NHD imports, and contained in the ?area? NHD datasets. OK... I must be doing something wrong. I'm trying to get shapefiles out of the national map viewer. In the shopping cart it clearly says shapefile. But it keeps sending me a file geodatabase which I can't read as it requires ArcGIS or custom compiling OGR with the ESRI SDK linked in. Which... I could probably do but I have too many things on my plate to mess with that right now. It would be awesome if someone else could either do the coastlines or at least help me out by getting some usable coastline data from somewhere. Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Proposed import: GeoBase Coastlines into Northwest Washington state
I propose replacing the PGS coastlines (largely imported by blars) in Northwest Washington state with GeoBase coastlines. GeoBase data covers part of NW Washington state (e.g. Canadian NHD area 08HAD00 covers the Washington coastline from Port Angeles to Port Townsend). Most of the existing PGS coastlines are scheduled for removal and this is a higher accuracy data source. GeoBase is well documented from Canada, so I'm just sending this to talk-us@. Sample data, imported from the same source, can be seen with the BC coastline from Alaska to Vancouver. I will not be replacing any objects except coastlines from PGS and coastlines traced from landsat or other low resolution imagery. The impacted coastlines will stretch from the northwest tip of the coastline near Neah Bay to Port Townsend and the Canada-US border to the coastline west of Anacortes as well as the San Juan islands. The tagging will be natural=coastline source=GeoBase, with appropriate changeset source tags indicating the exact file. The ways will undergo a mild simplification to reduce overnoding. I believe the basins I will be looking at are 08MHA00, 08MHF00, 08HAC00, 08HAD00, 08HA0X2 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
