Re: [Talk-us] Rails with trails

2012-06-28 Thread Nathan Edgars II

On 6/27/2012 10:46 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:

Ideally a map of rail trails
should include them (e.g. the one in Trains magazine's May 2011
issue), but there's no easy way to determine if a trail is one.


I would map the ways independently when the trail is adjacent to the rails.


Duh? The question is what *additional* tags to put on the trail.

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[Talk-us] An amusing story of a GNIS entry

2012-06-28 Thread Nathan Edgars II

http://www.fuzzyworld3.com/3um/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3183

I suppose the question is whether OSM should have this place (assuming 
someone verifies that the sign is gone). Currently it does as part of 
the GNIS import: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/153418203/history


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Re: [Talk-us] Rails with trails

2012-06-28 Thread Phil! Gold
* Nathan Edgars II  [2012-06-27 12:59 -0400]:
> But another popular kind of rail trail, a "rail with trail", cannot
> be found in this manner.
[snip]
> Does anyone have any ideas for tagging? The simplest would be
> something like rail_with_trail=yes or maybe railway=adjacent.

Either of those would work.  Between those two, I'm inclined toward
railway=adjacent so the search would be something like
"highway=(path|footway|cycleway) and railway=(abandoned|adjacent)".

Another possibility would be to use rail_trail=yes, which would apply to
any rail trail.  It would be implied by a non-motor-vehicle highway= tag
and railway=abandoned, but could always be specified to be unambiguous.

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Re: [Talk-us] An amusing story of a GNIS entry

2012-06-28 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Thu, 2012-06-28 at 06:49 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
> http://www.fuzzyworld3.com/3um/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=3183
> 
> I suppose the question is whether OSM should have this place
> (assuming 
> someone verifies that the sign is gone). Currently it does as part of 
> the GNIS import:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/153418203/history 

I don't see the harm in leaving it in, especially after reading the
story about it.

-- 
Shawn K. Quinn 


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Re: [Talk-us] Creating PDF maps

2012-06-28 Thread Clifford Snow
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Paul Norman  wrote:

> You’re asking two separate questions, one is on creating a PDF map, the
> other is a style sheet that shows something other than what osm.xml (the
> standard style on osm.org) does.
>
> ** **
>
> I wrote mapbook (https://github.com/pnorman/mapbook) which will create a
> PDF using Mapnik’s default AGG renderer. It works with any mapnik style
> file, although I find that osm.xml is not well suited to print. You can
> also render directly to a PDF as vectors with mapnik, but this is lower
> quality and larger than a high resolution bitmap.
>

I pulled mapbook.  This looks very promising.  A question about height and
width.  How do you determine those values?  And what are columns?  Right
now I can't run the code, I'm missing some packages, but that should be
easy enough to resolve.

> 
>
> ** **
>
> I had a look at the area in JOSM and I can’t see much data that the
> osm.xml style doesn’t render. What amenities were you thinking of that
> aren’t rendering?
>

I don't see benches and guideposts (tag information=guidepost).  It may be
my lack of knowing where to look also. But when I look at OpenStreetMap
those amenities don't show up.

> 
>
> ** **
>
> Incidentally, could someone verify if
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/159553109 exists? It shows on the
> high zoom imagery but not the lower zoom, and the lower zoom may be more
> recent.
>
> **
>
You are right.  I walk right past there getting gps tracings for trails.
The building is gone.  Much of what was an old military base is being
converted in to natural habitat.   I suspect it was pulled down about the
same time that much of the housing was removed.

Thanks,
Clifford

> **
>
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