Re: [Talk-us] Updated redaction oneway map
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Toby Murray wrote: > I just updated my "oneway" map that shows ways with a oneway tag but > without a highway tag that were last touched by the redaction bot. I > have been updating the tiles every couple of days but at the > suggestion of someone on IRC I just added bridge and lanes tags to the > list in addition to oneway. The world is rendered to z10, most of > europe to z11 and specific high density cities to z13. (Several places > in the US, Europe and Australia) If you want a specific area rendered > to a higher zoom, feel free to send me a bbox. > > If you use these tiles as an imagery layer in JOSM as suggested at the > bottom of the page, be sure to flush your tile cache for that layer > every couple of days to pick up changes. (right click with this as the > only visible imagery layer and select the "Flush tile cache" option) > > I can see the .osm file I render from shrinking every time I update so > progress is being made! It started at over 10 MB and was about ready > to go under 5 MB when I added the additional tags which put it back up > over 6. > > http://ni.kwsn.net/~toby/OSM/maps/redaction.html Earlier today I noticed that I had a slight error in my rendering rules. I added bridge, lanes and tunnel to the list of queried tags but not to the rendering. So I just uploaded a new set of tiles with fresh data (as of a couple hours ago) and the new rendering rules. So there may be additional problem ways to check now. Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] New version of US redaction map
On 8/13/2012 11:11 PM, Paul Norman wrote: It’s all CC BY-SA right now so you’d be okay now, but I think it’d be a problem in the future under both CC BY-SA and ODbL if you were mix the data in this way. I'd think this is not actually importing any information directly from the redacted copyrighted CC BY-SA data: it's just using it to set or clear a flag. Much as if you were heading out to do a survey, printed Google navigation directions, and found that the Google directions are wrong when you get there - you'd conclude "Mismatch", but still rely only on survey and approved sources to create OSM data. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] New version of US redaction map
It’s all CC BY-SA right now so you’d be okay now, but I think it’d be a problem in the future under both CC BY-SA and ODbL if you were mix the data in this way. From: Martijn van Exel [mailto:m...@rtijn.org] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 7:09 PM To: Mike N Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] New version of US redaction map On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Mike N wrote: On 8/13/2012 12:48 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: The main new thing is that it now shows deleted ways as well Very nice - this map and Toby's are very useful. I see that the deleted ways are purple. One thing I have noticed is that it would be nice to detect a new roadway having been added under the old deleted roadway, and automatically remove the notification. Interesting idea. My US database is currently catching up with reality, so I can't really try until that has completed, but I do have an idea how to make that work. Without relying on human tagging like in the Inspektor. What I would do is select all (current) ways that overlap the bounding box of the deleted way and that are created after 7/15, then calculate the hausdorff distance between the deleted way's geometry and the results of that query. If we get a close match, it is *very likely* that the way has already been remapped. Identical highway= tags may further corroborate this. What I am not so sure about is using the non-compliant geometry and tags this way, from a legal perspective. Anyone who can offer any ideas on that? Martijn -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] New version of US redaction map
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Mike N wrote: > On 8/13/2012 12:48 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > >> The main new thing is that it now shows deleted ways as well >> > > Very nice - this map and Toby's are very useful. I see that the > deleted ways are purple. > > One thing I have noticed is that it would be nice to detect a new > roadway having been added under the old deleted roadway, and automatically > remove the notification. > > Interesting idea. My US database is currently catching up with reality, so I can't really try until that has completed, but I do have an idea how to make that work. Without relying on human tagging like in the Inspektor. What I would do is select all (current) ways that overlap the bounding box of the deleted way and that are created after 7/15, then calculate the hausdorff distance between the deleted way's geometry and the results of that query. If we get a close match, it is *very likely* that the way has already been remapped. Identical highway= tags may further corroborate this. What I am not so sure about is using the non-compliant geometry and tags this way, from a legal perspective. Anyone who can offer any ideas on that? Martijn -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] New version of US redaction map
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Mike N wrote: > On 8/13/2012 12:48 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: >> >> The main new thing is that it now shows deleted ways as well > > > Very nice - this map and Toby's are very useful. I see that the deleted > ways are purple. > > One thing I have noticed is that it would be nice to detect a new roadway > having been added under the old deleted roadway, and automatically remove > the notification. You can mark notifications as resolved on the OSMI redaction bot layer. http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=redactionbot ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] New version of US redaction map
On 8/13/2012 12:48 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: The main new thing is that it now shows deleted ways as well Very nice - this map and Toby's are very useful. I see that the deleted ways are purple. One thing I have noticed is that it would be nice to detect a new roadway having been added under the old deleted roadway, and automatically remove the notification. Thanks, Mike ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] New version of US redaction map
Hi all, I redid my redaction map a little. You may remember my map is a little more general-purpose than Toby's which focuses on ways that have apparently been stripped of a highway= tag as well as touched nodes. Mine focuses on the road network as a whole, showing the ways last touched by the redaction bot broken down by class (motorway, trunk, etc). The main new thing is that it now shows deleted ways as well (including nonsensical JOSM links in the popup ballons for them). Also, I decided to go with raster layers for z < 12 to reduce server & client load. Let me know what you think. http://lima.schaaltreinen.nl/redaction/ Best Martijn -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
