[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2012-12-26
These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel free to ask. However, please do not send me private mail. The odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by asking on the talk-us@ list, others can benefit. Downloads: http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2012-12-26 Map to visualize what each file contains: http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2012-12-26/kml/kml.html FAQ Why did you do this? I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact of doing a large join on Lambertus's server. I've also cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently on removable media. http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2012-12-26 Can or should I seed the torrents? Yes!! If you use the .torrent files, please seed. That web server is in the UK, and it helps to have some peers on this side of the Atlantic. Why is my map missing small rectangular areas? There have been some missing tiles from Lambertus's map (the red rectangles), I don't see any at the moment, so you may want to update if you had issues with the last set. Why can I not copy the large files to my new SD card? If you buy a new card (especially SDHC), some are FAT16 from the factory. I had to reformat it to let me create a 2GB file. Does your map cover Mexico/Canada? Yes!! I have, for the purposes of this map, annexed Ontario in to the USA. Some areas of North America that are close to the US also just happen to get pulled in to these maps. This might not happen forever, and if you would like your non-US area to get included, let me know. -- Dave ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] shawnee county landuse
Well I have been looking into the law today, and I talked to the gis expert at the county. First of all we are not importing the peoples names, so anyone doing a mass mailing would be be just getting the address. The data that we imported is being bought by many companies he said. And the address information is being also available from the post as well. I am going to talk to more people in the county or the state, but my first contact said there should be no problem. All we are importing is the fact that there is a house there with that number and the zipcode and the type of landuse. On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Sorry, I did not finish that. I have already written to legal about it. Trulia and Zillow are using this data in full. I have stripped out all personal and contact information so I think that it should not fall under the no selling of contact info clause. The data is basically PD/ disclaimed http://www.snco.us/Ap/B_prop/Disclaimer.shtm the relevant law is : Kansas Open Records Act Statement By accessing this site, you are required to make the following certification pursuant to K.S.A. 45-220(c)(2): the requester does not intend to, and will not: (A) Use any list of names or addresses contained in or derived from the records or information for the purpose of selling or offering for sale any property or service to any person listed or to any person who resides at any address listed; or (B) sell, give or otherwise make available to any person any list of names or addresses contained in or derived from the records or information for the purpose of allowing that person to sell or offer for sale any property or service to any person listed or to any person who resides at any address listed. maybe you could say that you can use osm to create an address db, but i think we should look into it mike On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: 2. **What is the license that this data is under? I did not see a copyright statement. This is basically PD data from the government. under the open data act the only restriction is that the http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_45/Article_2/#45-216 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Proposed import: Alaska Boroughs/CPDs
Paul - I'm grateful for your efforts here. I'd like to use this import as a test case for further discussing our current import guidelines and policies. In particular: - Is 3 days a suitable duration for reviewing proposed imports? - Should there be an entry for this import on the Import Catalogue page? - Should the Alaska import use a separate account from other imports you've coordinated? Yes, these q's may sound a little snarky (hopefully in a friendly way ; ) ), but I am sincerely interested in resolving answers to these questions so we can help clarify guidance moving forward. (my take on the answers are: no (2 weeks minimum), no (that page is a disaster), and no clue.) Thanks, Jeff On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: From: Paul Norman [mailto:penor...@mac.com] Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Proposed import: Alaska Boroughs/CPDs Given that the comments received have been generally positive and the concerns raised are addressed I'm going to go ahead and start post- processing the data so I can merge it in as well as figuring out how the heck to identify all the existing imported borough/CPD boundaries, all tagged differently. Completed successfully. Because the boundaries are now much less nodey the boundaries went from about 170k nodes to 25k nodes. I added wikipedia=* and website=* tags as applicable. Wikipedia tags should help Nominatim determine importance when there are two places with the same name. As most states aren't adding counties at the rate that Alaska has added boroughs I doubt it'll come up again but I documented the SQL I used to identify and delete the existing boundaries without conflicts on deleted nodes at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Alaska/TIGER_Counties. Thanks for cleaning this up. Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- Jeff Meyer Global World History Atlas www.gwhat.org j...@gwhat.org 206-676-2347 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] shawnee county landuse
While we didn't discuss it in terms of this specific law, this does match my conversation with the Riley county GIS department. As long as names aren't used, they do not have any problems with their information being used in OSM. Toby On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Well I have been looking into the law today, and I talked to the gis expert at the county. First of all we are not importing the peoples names, so anyone doing a mass mailing would be be just getting the address. The data that we imported is being bought by many companies he said. And the address information is being also available from the post as well. I am going to talk to more people in the county or the state, but my first contact said there should be no problem. All we are importing is the fact that there is a house there with that number and the zipcode and the type of landuse. On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Sorry, I did not finish that. I have already written to legal about it. Trulia and Zillow are using this data in full. I have stripped out all personal and contact information so I think that it should not fall under the no selling of contact info clause. The data is basically PD/ disclaimed http://www.snco.us/Ap/B_prop/Disclaimer.shtm the relevant law is : Kansas Open Records Act Statement By accessing this site, you are required to make the following certification pursuant to K.S.A. 45-220(c)(2): the requester does not intend to, and will not: (A) Use any list of names or addresses contained in or derived from the records or information for the purpose of selling or offering for sale any property or service to any person listed or to any person who resides at any address listed; or (B) sell, give or otherwise make available to any person any list of names or addresses contained in or derived from the records or information for the purpose of allowing that person to sell or offer for sale any property or service to any person listed or to any person who resides at any address listed. maybe you could say that you can use osm to create an address db, but i think we should look into it mike On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: 2. What is the license that this data is under? I did not see a copyright statement. This is basically PD data from the government. under the open data act the only restriction is that the http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_45/Article_2/#45-216 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] shawnee county landuse
Given the extreme concern many people have about protecting the integrity of OSM data, why not just get a brief email from Riley County GIS stating just that? If there's no explicit statement clarifying this on the web, an email from a county official would be better safe than sorry, no? On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: While we didn't discuss it in terms of this specific law, this does match my conversation with the Riley county GIS department. As long as names aren't used, they do not have any problems with their information being used in OSM. Toby On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Well I have been looking into the law today, and I talked to the gis expert at the county. First of all we are not importing the peoples names, so anyone doing a mass mailing would be be just getting the address. The data that we imported is being bought by many companies he said. And the address information is being also available from the post as well. I am going to talk to more people in the county or the state, but my first contact said there should be no problem. All we are importing is the fact that there is a house there with that number and the zipcode and the type of landuse. On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Sorry, I did not finish that. I have already written to legal about it. Trulia and Zillow are using this data in full. I have stripped out all personal and contact information so I think that it should not fall under the no selling of contact info clause. The data is basically PD/ disclaimed http://www.snco.us/Ap/B_prop/Disclaimer.shtm the relevant law is : Kansas Open Records Act Statement By accessing this site, you are required to make the following certification pursuant to K.S.A. 45-220(c)(2): the requester does not intend to, and will not: (A) Use any list of names or addresses contained in or derived from the records or information for the purpose of selling or offering for sale any property or service to any person listed or to any person who resides at any address listed; or (B) sell, give or otherwise make available to any person any list of names or addresses contained in or derived from the records or information for the purpose of allowing that person to sell or offer for sale any property or service to any person listed or to any person who resides at any address listed. maybe you could say that you can use osm to create an address db, but i think we should look into it mike On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: 2. What is the license that this data is under? I did not see a copyright statement. This is basically PD data from the government. under the open data act the only restriction is that the http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_45/Article_2/#45-216 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Imports mailing list impo...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports -- Jeff Meyer Global World History Atlas www.gwhat.org j...@gwhat.org 206-676-2347 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] shawnee county landuse
This is about shawnee county, not riley. I am working on getting a written confirmation, until then I will not import any more data, just continue to clean up what I have imported. mike On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: While we didn't discuss it in terms of this specific law, this does match my conversation with the Riley county GIS department. As long as names aren't used, they do not have any problems with their information being used in OSM. Toby On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Well I have been looking into the law today, and I talked to the gis expert at the county. First of all we are not importing the peoples names, so anyone doing a mass mailing would be be just getting the address. The data that we imported is being bought by many companies he said. And the address information is being also available from the post as well. I am going to talk to more people in the county or the state, but my first contact said there should be no problem. All we are importing is the fact that there is a house there with that number and the zipcode and the type of landuse. On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: Sorry, I did not finish that. I have already written to legal about it. Trulia and Zillow are using this data in full. I have stripped out all personal and contact information so I think that it should not fall under the no selling of contact info clause. The data is basically PD/ disclaimed http://www.snco.us/Ap/B_prop/Disclaimer.shtm the relevant law is : Kansas Open Records Act Statement By accessing this site, you are required to make the following certification pursuant to K.S.A. 45-220(c)(2): the requester does not intend to, and will not: (A) Use any list of names or addresses contained in or derived from the records or information for the purpose of selling or offering for sale any property or service to any person listed or to any person who resides at any address listed; or (B) sell, give or otherwise make available to any person any list of names or addresses contained in or derived from the records or information for the purpose of allowing that person to sell or offer for sale any property or service to any person listed or to any person who resides at any address listed. maybe you could say that you can use osm to create an address db, but i think we should look into it mike On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: 2. What is the license that this data is under? I did not see a copyright statement. This is basically PD data from the government. under the open data act the only restriction is that the http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/Chapter_45/Article_2/#45-216 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://flossk.org Saving wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com Contributor FOSM, the CC-BY-SA map of the world http://fosm.org Mozilla Rep https://reps.mozilla.org/u/h4ck3rm1k3 Free Software Foundation Europe Fellow http://fsfe.org/support/?h4ck3rm1k3 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] shawnee county landuse
On 12/27/12 2:46 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: This is about shawnee county, not riley. I am working on getting a written confirmation, until then I will not import any more data, just continue to clean up what I have imported. thank you. we really do need to take this much care whenever we bring in a new data source. richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
