Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number

2013-01-25 Thread Alexander Jones
Paul Johnson wrote:

 Would it be appropriate to include addr:housename?
 On Jan 24, 2013 1:52 PM, Jason Remillard
 remillard.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just skip the addr:housenumber tag?

 On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Paul Johnson
 ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
  I've run into a situation trying to map a public school.  Address as
  the post office knows it:
 
  Midway Public Schools
  3rd Street
  Council Hill, OK 74428
 
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I found the district's website[1], and even it has PO Box 127 as its 
mailing address. The Multiple addresses proposal[2] includes addr:pob=* 
for PO boxes, so that might work.

Alexander

[1] http://midway.k12.ok.us/
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Multiple_addresses


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Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number

2013-01-25 Thread Paul Johnson
A PO Box doesn't work for navigation purposes, which is what I thought we
were focusing on.  Oddly enough, the school does have a mailbox on Third
near Pine.  House numbers don't appear to be a thing in Council Hill, I
didn't see anything there (though I was pushing a deadline and running
behind, hence only focusing on Midway Schools, so I might have missed it;
the schools were definitely was unnumbered).


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:52 AM, Alexander Jones happy5...@gmail.comwrote:

 Paul Johnson wrote:

  Would it be appropriate to include addr:housename?
  On Jan 24, 2013 1:52 PM, Jason Remillard
  remillard.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Just skip the addr:housenumber tag?
 
  On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Paul Johnson
  ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
   I've run into a situation trying to map a public school.  Address as
   the post office knows it:
  
   Midway Public Schools
   3rd Street
   Council Hill, OK 74428
  
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 I found the district's website[1], and even it has PO Box 127 as its
 mailing address. The Multiple addresses proposal[2] includes addr:pob=*
 for PO boxes, so that might work.

 Alexander

 [1] http://midway.k12.ok.us/
 [2]
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Multiple_addresses


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Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number

2013-01-25 Thread Anthony
This and many other annoying addressing schemes used to be common, but
I thought the enhanced 911 system did away with this sort of thing.  I
did a quick google search and I can't find any address for that school
though.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
 A PO Box doesn't work for navigation purposes, which is what I thought we
 were focusing on.  Oddly enough, the school does have a mailbox on Third
 near Pine.  House numbers don't appear to be a thing in Council Hill, I
 didn't see anything there (though I was pushing a deadline and running
 behind, hence only focusing on Midway Schools, so I might have missed it;
 the schools were definitely was unnumbered).


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Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number

2013-01-25 Thread Paul Johnson
301 would put it at 3rd and Pine (logically, I'm not 100% that Council Hill
works this way for sure), though I do have it on good authority that this
school (which is combined), has no house number.


On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:

 I see in some listings a Midway Elementary School at 301 Pine
 Street.  Is this the building you're referring to?  Are the high
 cchool and the elementary school one building?

 On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
  This and many other annoying addressing schemes used to be common, but
  I thought the enhanced 911 system did away with this sort of thing.  I
  did a quick google search and I can't find any address for that school
  though.
 
  On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org
 wrote:
  A PO Box doesn't work for navigation purposes, which is what I thought
 we
  were focusing on.  Oddly enough, the school does have a mailbox on Third
  near Pine.  House numbers don't appear to be a thing in Council Hill, I
  didn't see anything there (though I was pushing a deadline and running
  behind, hence only focusing on Midway Schools, so I might have missed
 it;
  the schools were definitely was unnumbered).
 

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Re: [Talk-us] Go Map!! is in the Apple app store

2013-01-25 Thread Steve Coast
yes;

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Go_Map



On Jan 25, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 Cool, getting my iPhone next week, so can't wait to try it out!
 
 Is it listed on the OSM wiki yet?
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote:
 I'd like to highly recommend a brand-new, native, and free* iOS OSM editor: 
 Go Map!!
 
 https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=592990211mt=8
 
 The author is a member of the Seattle OSM community, so I'm biased, but I 
 think it rocks.
 
 Regards, 
 Jeff
 
 * as in free beer!
 
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[Talk-us] Next Mappy Hour: Jan 28, Ian Dees on OSM US server resources

2013-01-25 Thread Alex Barth
We continue with our biweekly Virtual Mappy Hour on Monday January 28th
8.30PM Eastern.

This time Ian Dees is going to join us and walk us through the community
server resources maintained by the OSM US chapter:

http://www.openstreetmap.us/2013/01/osm-us-servers/

Come with your questions, looking forward!
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Re: [Talk-us] Go Map!! is in the Apple app store

2013-01-25 Thread Josh Doe
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote:

 I'd like to highly recommend a brand-new, native, and free* iOS OSM
 editor: Go Map!!


 https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=592990211mt=8

 The author is a member of the Seattle OSM community, so I'm biased, but I
 think it rocks.


Would this be the same Bryce Cogswell of Sysinternals fame? Can't wait to
try it out this weekend. PushPin is great, but sometimes I want a little
bit more.

-Josh
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Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Go Map!! is in the Apple app store

2013-01-25 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Whoops, sorry. It says editor quite clearly.. Should read emails b4 
replying...
From the go,
-Jaakko
Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel
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Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta

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Re: [Talk-us] Go Map!! is in the Apple app store

2013-01-25 Thread Apollinaris Schöll
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote:

 I'd like to highly recommend a brand-new, native, and free* iOS OSM
 editor: Go Map!!


 https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=592990211mt=8

 The author is a member of the Seattle OSM community, so I'm biased, but I
 think it rocks.


Yes it rocks! super easy usage and full functionality. I'd say the first
osm editor with a good touch interface.



 Regards,
 Jeff

 * as in free beer!

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Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Go Map!! is in the Apple app store

2013-01-25 Thread Apollinaris Schöll
have used Vespucci until a year ago. At that time the user interface was
way to complicated. I know it has improved since but cant test anymore
without a Android device.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Has anyone tried Vespucci and GoMap to compare for us?

 Janko

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Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number

2013-01-25 Thread stevea
There is at least one town in the USA, Carmel, California (sometimes 
called Carmel-by-the-Sea as there is also a Carmel Valley which is 
a half-hour drive from Carmel inland).  Carmel does not use addresses 
per se using house numbers.  I have no idea how the Post Office does 
things -- it really must be quite annoying to them, but they 
evidently manage somehow.


At least in the business district, you'll hear a description of where 
a business is located as something like:  On Dolores between Fifth 
and Sixth.  That's how I've heard it on at least one radio ad.


Clearly, in Carmel (and perhaps Council Hill, Oklahoma?), we'll need 
to leave the addr:housenumber out of OSM's data entirely, as there 
really is no such thing.  Some houses may have or be reasonably 
well-known with what fits into OSM as an addr:housename, and indeed 
there may even be a scheme (same one used by the Post Office?) which 
does something similar to what the radio ads do for businesses.  For 
example, a particular residential house in Carmel might be assigned 
as an address node tag:


addr:housename=Casanova Street, East side, third house south of 9th

I'm whole-cloth inventing this as an example, and again, it would be 
good to know what the Post Office does.  (Or even 911, if it is 
discernable, as that might be more definitive as it seems more 
local).  But the main reason I share this knowledge is to demonstrate 
that there is at least one place in the USA that has no numbered 
addresses as we commonly experience them.


SteveA
California



This and many other annoying addressing schemes used to be common, but
I thought the enhanced 911 system did away with this sort of thing.  I
did a quick google search and I can't find any address for that school
though.

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:

 A PO Box doesn't work for navigation purposes, which is what I thought we
 were focusing on.  Oddly enough, the school does have a mailbox on Third
 near Pine.  House numbers don't appear to be a thing in Council Hill, I
 didn't see anything there (though I was pushing a deadline and running
 behind, hence only focusing on Midway Schools, so I might have missed it;
 the schools were definitely was unnumbered).

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Re: [Talk-us] Addresses with no house number

2013-01-25 Thread Clay Smalley
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote:

 **
 For example, a particular residential house in Carmel might be assigned as
 an address node tag:

 addr:housename=Casanova Street, East side, third house south of 9th

I think that's better fit for the key addr:full=*. See
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr

 I'm whole-cloth inventing this as an example, and again, it would be good
 to know what the Post Office does.

I believe the common way to do things over there is to say Dolores 3rd NW
of 8th if you want to describe the place on the west side of Dolores
Street that is the third house north of 8th Street.
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