Re: [Talk-us] South Carolina State Highways - primary overload

2013-12-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/9 James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com

 There is no way almost all of the State Highways in SC can be primary.
 Just look at almost any other state.  None are overloaded with primaries.



+1, also there are almost no secondary highways which also seems strange.

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Re: [Talk-us] South Carolina State Highways - primary overload

2013-12-09 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/12/9 Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com

 Even weirder:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/34.3071/-80.9977

 is this stretch of SC 34 that goes primary-secondary-primary for no real
 reason I can see.



+1, this one should probably be primary.

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Re: [Talk-us] South Carolina State Highways - primary overload

2013-12-09 Thread Mike N

On 12/9/2013 12:42 AM, James Mast wrote:

So, does anybody else agree with me on this subject of primary
overload in South Carolina?  If so, how do we go about fixing this with
a reasonable approach?  Looking at some of the history of some of the
ways, it seems that only one user was doing the upgrade from secondary
to primary/trunk over the past 4+ months.


 Disclaimer: I'm not familiar with DOT classifications in general.

 At first, the user seemed to be knowledgeable about highway 
classifications for the segments in question.   But I agree - now that 
nearly everything was just changed to primary, it seems to be both less 
useful and inconsistent with most of the rest of the US.   It seems that 
the intent was to match some other map rendering or road classification 
which has fewer classification levels.



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Re: [Talk-us] A new tracing layer for TIGER 2013

2013-12-09 Thread Eric Fischer
Thanks for the report!

Can you be a little more specific about what you want to show more contrast:

* Between TIGER roads and iD or JOSM roads?
* Between TIGER roads and the aerial imagery?
* Between TIGER roads and railroads?
* Between different classes of TIGER roads?
* Something else?

If you have a screenshot of two things that look alike to you and that
should be distinguishable, that would be a big help.

I don't think the 2012 TIGER layer uses any color at all, unless the color
was too subtle for me to see too.

Eric



On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:

 On Sunday, December 8, 2013, Eric Fischer wrote:

 There are only a few colors involved: streets are yellow and railroads
 are blue, and both are a little brighter if they have changed since the
 2006 data. Service roads are drawn a little thinner than the rest,
 following the example of the 2012 TIGER layer.


  More contrast, please!  I can't tell the difference between the colors.
  The change in colors are too subtle to tell apart.  And that's coming from
 me, I have a JOSM stylesheet that colors maxspeed=* to color the same as
 JOSM colors GPX for car speeds, and I can tell the difference between 30,
 35, 40, and 45 MPH at a glance.


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Re: [Talk-us] A new tracing layer for TIGER 2013

2013-12-09 Thread Ian Dees
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Eric Fischer e...@pobox.com wrote:

 I don't think the 2012 TIGER layer uses any color at all, unless the color
 was too subtle for me to see too.


It does not: only white lines and text with a black outline.
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Re: [Talk-us] A new tracing layer for TIGER 2013

2013-12-09 Thread Paul Johnson
Between changed and unchanged.


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Eric Fischer e...@pobox.com wrote:

 Thanks for the report!

 Can you be a little more specific about what you want to show more
 contrast:

 * Between TIGER roads and iD or JOSM roads?
 * Between TIGER roads and the aerial imagery?
 * Between TIGER roads and railroads?
 * Between different classes of TIGER roads?
 * Something else?

 If you have a screenshot of two things that look alike to you and that
 should be distinguishable, that would be a big help.

 I don't think the 2012 TIGER layer uses any color at all, unless the color
 was too subtle for me to see too.

 Eric



 On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:

 On Sunday, December 8, 2013, Eric Fischer wrote:

 There are only a few colors involved: streets are yellow and railroads
 are blue, and both are a little brighter if they have changed since the
 2006 data. Service roads are drawn a little thinner than the rest,
 following the example of the 2012 TIGER layer.


  More contrast, please!  I can't tell the difference between the colors.
  The change in colors are too subtle to tell apart.  And that's coming from
 me, I have a JOSM stylesheet that colors maxspeed=* to color the same as
 JOSM colors GPX for car speeds, and I can tell the difference between 30,
 35, 40, and 45 MPH at a glance.


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Re: [Talk-us] A new tracing layer for TIGER 2013

2013-12-09 Thread Eric Fischer
Thanks. I'll try to make that clearer in the next revision.

Eric


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:

 Between changed and unchanged.


 On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Eric Fischer e...@pobox.com wrote:

 Thanks for the report!

 Can you be a little more specific about what you want to show more
 contrast:

 * Between TIGER roads and iD or JOSM roads?
 * Between TIGER roads and the aerial imagery?
 * Between TIGER roads and railroads?
 * Between different classes of TIGER roads?
 * Something else?

 If you have a screenshot of two things that look alike to you and that
 should be distinguishable, that would be a big help.

 I don't think the 2012 TIGER layer uses any color at all, unless the
 color was too subtle for me to see too.

 Eric



 On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:

 On Sunday, December 8, 2013, Eric Fischer wrote:

 There are only a few colors involved: streets are yellow and railroads
 are blue, and both are a little brighter if they have changed since the
 2006 data. Service roads are drawn a little thinner than the rest,
 following the example of the 2012 TIGER layer.


  More contrast, please!  I can't tell the difference between the colors.
  The change in colors are too subtle to tell apart.  And that's coming from
 me, I have a JOSM stylesheet that colors maxspeed=* to color the same as
 JOSM colors GPX for car speeds, and I can tell the difference between 30,
 35, 40, and 45 MPH at a glance.


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Re: [Talk-us] [Imports-us] People ignoring NYC import pause, tasks done outstripping validation

2013-12-09 Thread ingalls
Unfortunately I have an exam here in the next new minutes so I won't be
able to attend either, a recording, if possible, would be fantastic!


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:

 I got word that Eric won't be able to make the meeting.

 Can we record it so that he (or anyone else) can watch it later?

 - Serge

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[Talk-us] OSM US Annual General Meeting tonight

2013-12-09 Thread Ian Dees
Hi all,

This is a reminder that tonight at 8PM EST (in ~1 hour) we'll be holding
our Annual General Meeting for members of OpenStreetMap US.

You'll find the previous announcement with more information here:

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-November/012183.html

If you are an active member you'll receive an e-mail with the hangout link
shortly before the meeting.

-Ian
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[Talk-us] OSM US Annual General Meeting Tonight

2013-12-09 Thread Ian Dees
Hi all,
This is a reminder that tonight at 8PM EST (in ~50 minutes) we'll be
holding our Annual General Meeting for members of OpenStreetMap US.
You'll find the previous announcement with more information here:
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-November/012183.html
If you are an active member you'll receive an e-mail with the hangout link
shortly before the meeting.
-Ian
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Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Annual General Meeting tonight

2013-12-09 Thread Ian Dees
You can watch using the YouTube link without a plugin and participate via
the IRC channel.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Mike Dupont
jamesmikedup...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Hi there,
 google hang outs dont work on my computer, (debian sid) the plugin just
 crashes.
 too bad we dont have anything that is free/libre open source to use,
 mike

 On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Ian Dees i...@openstreetmap.us wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  This is a reminder that tonight at 8PM EST (in ~1 hour) we'll be holding
 our
  Annual General Meeting for members of OpenStreetMap US.
 
  You'll find the previous announcement with more information here:
 
 
 https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2013-November/012183.html
 
  If you are an active member you'll receive an e-mail with the hangout
 link
  shortly before the meeting.
 
  -Ian

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