Re: [Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport
On 11/27/2014 3:08 PM, Saikrishna Arcot wrote: Not sure if this is the right list or the tagging list is better, but I see some bus and subway routes in the Atlanta area that use the older version of tagging public transport routes. Should these be updated to use the newer version of tagging? I would say to go for it. Be aware that one or more of the popular map rendering style sheets only render the old style transport, so retain the old style tags if you need it rendered everywhere it currently shows. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM topics at Kansas Linux Fest
I'm tentatively scheduled to work that day...could you narrow down the location in Kansas? On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mike Dupont wrote: > Howdy, > I am working on an free/libre open source software/open knowledge > festival in Kansas on March 21-22 2015, > kansaslinuxfest.us and would like to invite OSM people to talk and attend! > mike > > -- > James Michael DuPont > Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://www.flossk.org > Saving Wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion > http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport
I was one of the people that did a lot of work on those. Go for it. Let me know if you need help. Bill On Nov 27, 2014 3:09 PM, "Saikrishna Arcot" wrote: > Hi all, > > Not sure if this is the right list or the tagging list is better, but I > see some bus and subway routes in the Atlanta area that use the older > version of tagging public transport routes. Should these be updated to use > the newer version of tagging? > > -- > Saikrishna Arcot > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] OSM topics at Kansas Linux Fest
Howdy, I am working on an free/libre open source software/open knowledge festival in Kansas on March 21-22 2015, kansaslinuxfest.us and would like to invite OSM people to talk and attend! mike -- James Michael DuPont Member of Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova http://www.flossk.org Saving Wikipedia(tm) articles from deletion http://SpeedyDeletion.wikia.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Updating tagging of public transport
Hi all, Not sure if this is the right list or the tagging list is better, but I see some bus and subway routes in the Atlanta area that use the older version of tagging public transport routes. Should these be updated to use the newer version of tagging? -- Saikrishna Arcot signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] admin level for US states
I can't speak to the other countries you mention, but Japan's prefectures are the equivalent of US states, and both are admin_level 4. The Japanese "states" (doshusei) listed for admin_level 3 on the wiki page seem to be some sort of experiment in regional administration. More info in English here: http://www.mutantfrog.com/2010/12/03/the-new-kansai-regional-league/ On Wednesday, November 26, 2014, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2014-11-25 10:59 GMT+01:00 Sarah Hoffmann : > >> admin_levels have been invented "in order that different borders can be >> rendered consistently among countries" according to the wiki[1]. >> > > > +1, that's also what I am after. > > > >> That's >> also what I remember. "State eqivalent" doesn't mean that they must be >> organised exactly in the same way but that they are roughly at the same >> level of administrative hierarchies. >> > > > +1 > my point was, that they aren't. Italian regions aren't roughly at the same > level of administrative hierarchy than are the US States, and I guess also > the French regions aren't. > Japan does have states on admin level 3. > > > >> Under that definition US states are >> the same as German bundesländer, French regions, Canadian provinces etc. >> even though their political influence and internal organzisation is >> wildly different. >> > > > how could you compare hierarchical levels if the organization is wildly > different? > > > >> >> There is a lot of software around that works under the assumption that >> US states (and the equivalents in other countries) can be found at >> admin_level=4. >> > > > and this would break if level 3 was used? > > > >> The current admin level hierarchy is not perfect but >> it works for most practical applications. >> > > > actually it seems that changing the rendering to administrative polygons > rather than using place nodes will create/reveal some inconsistencies and I > was trying to fix this / find a solution. Maybe you are right and the > solution is not in modifying the US state admin level but changing > elsewhere. It simply seemed kind of an inconsistency to have the US state > at the same level as German Länder and French Region, but maybe that was a > misinterpretation of the admin levels. > > cheers, > Martin > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Who controls data: Google Maps, others erasing Hollywood sign, but it's in OSM
Could you include the new node in the relation as role=label? That's at least somewhat documented... On Thursday, November 27, 2014, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2014-11-26 18:30 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wiseman >: > >> That was me -- but I would argue it's an unusual way to tag it -- it's >> not the individual letters that are important, it's the whole piece. > > > > yes, that is clear, and the data in OSM also reflected this by having a > site relation to group all the letters into the actual monument. That > relation is the object to put the name, wikipedia link, tourism=attraction > tag etc. (and they are all there). > > > >> You wouldn't tag each president in Mount Rushmore and leave it at that, >> right? > > > > I wouldn't leave it as that, but I also wouldn't tag them singularly and > then add another node for the whole, I'd rather try to combine the > "individual presidents" into a whole piece of artwork by using a relation. > > > cheers, > Martin > > > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Who controls data: Google Maps, others erasing Hollywood sign, but it's in OSM
2014-11-26 18:30 GMT+01:00 Andrew Wiseman : > That was me -- but I would argue it's an unusual way to tag it -- it's not > the individual letters that are important, it's the whole piece. yes, that is clear, and the data in OSM also reflected this by having a site relation to group all the letters into the actual monument. That relation is the object to put the name, wikipedia link, tourism=attraction tag etc. (and they are all there). > You wouldn't tag each president in Mount Rushmore and leave it at that, > right? I wouldn't leave it as that, but I also wouldn't tag them singularly and then add another node for the whole, I'd rather try to combine the "individual presidents" into a whole piece of artwork by using a relation. cheers, Martin ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
