Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Importing Tesla Superchargers
Charles Samuels writes: > On Sunday, April 12, 2015 01:12:12 AM Andy Allan wrote: >> > Right now, if a tag doesn't match with supercharge.info, I overwrite >> > OSM's. >> >> Could you explain this a bit further? For example, if supercharge.info >> has capacity 6, and I correct this to capacity 8, does your script >> then overwrite my tag and change it back to the incorrect value? > > Correct. My intent is that I expect OSM to be no better than > supercharge.info, > so for now it's easiest to just overwrite. Then on following runs of it, I > manually investigate the changes made in OSM and reconcile the differences. You may actually be right about the likelihood of correctness, and this may lead to an expected value of < 0.1 errors per year. However, imports changing data entered by hand is something that crosses a cultural bright line, and I find it concerning that you're heading down that path. I say that as someone who is usually much more on the pro-import side. To stay within OSM norms, the thing to do is leave the existing data alone, and publish a list someplace of mismatches. It's fine to write to the person who added it and explain that there's a mismatch and ask if they are sure. The other notion in imports is to test out the process before you do it. Have you run the conflation code against the osm database, and how many cases are there where osm already has a charger station but the tags dont' match? pgpaZFTtXNvGv.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Importing Tesla Superchargers
On Sunday, April 12, 2015 02:45:11 PM Wolfgang Zenker wrote: > * Charles Samuels [150412 22:21]: > > On Sunday, April 12, 2015 01:12:12 AM Andy Allan wrote: > >>> Right now, if a tag doesn't match with supercharge.info, I overwrite > >>> OSM's. > >> > >> Could you explain this a bit further? For example, if supercharge.info > >> has capacity 6, and I correct this to capacity 8, does your script > >> then overwrite my tag and change it back to the incorrect value? > > > > Correct. My intent is that I expect OSM to be no better than > > supercharge.info, so for now it's easiest to just overwrite. Then on > > following runs of it, I manually investigate the changes made in OSM and > > reconcile the differences. > > Sounds like the perfect way to drive away mappers, in other words: a pretty > bad idea. Investigating existing differences and reconciling the two data > sets looks like a much better (and acceptable) way to me. Ok, I will modify the program to show conflicts so they can be resolved manually. Charles ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Importing Tesla Superchargers
* Charles Samuels [150412 22:21]: > On Sunday, April 12, 2015 01:12:12 AM Andy Allan wrote: >>> Right now, if a tag doesn't match with supercharge.info, I overwrite >>> OSM's. >> Could you explain this a bit further? For example, if supercharge.info >> has capacity 6, and I correct this to capacity 8, does your script >> then overwrite my tag and change it back to the incorrect value? > Correct. My intent is that I expect OSM to be no better than > supercharge.info, > so for now it's easiest to just overwrite. Then on following runs of it, I > manually investigate the changes made in OSM and reconcile the differences. Sounds like the perfect way to drive away mappers, in other words: a pretty bad idea. Investigating existing differences and reconciling the two data sets looks like a much better (and acceptable) way to me. Wolfgang ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Importing Tesla Superchargers
On Sunday, April 12, 2015 01:12:12 AM Andy Allan wrote: > > Right now, if a tag doesn't match with supercharge.info, I overwrite > > OSM's. > > Could you explain this a bit further? For example, if supercharge.info > has capacity 6, and I correct this to capacity 8, does your script > then overwrite my tag and change it back to the incorrect value? Correct. My intent is that I expect OSM to be no better than supercharge.info, so for now it's easiest to just overwrite. Then on following runs of it, I manually investigate the changes made in OSM and reconcile the differences. Charles ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Am I doing this right? Houses w/ addresses
On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Harald Kliems wrote: > In areas with detached houses, the Android app Keypadmapper has worked > pretty well for me. Once house numbers get too dense (worst case: Montreal, > where each apartment in a duplex or triplex will have it's own house > number) it starts getting tricky assigning the number to the correct > building. And yeah, Mapillary imagery can definitely be useful for address > data. > Keypad mapper is wonderful because you are not as conspicuous when using pen and paper. I've tried using ranges were I drop the leading two digits while entering five digit numbers. There's a bunch of post processing when you actually enter the data. With any technique that I use, I always feel like Billy in the family circus. It is amazing where people put addresses. Commercial buildings can be the worst case to try and find the number. http://familycircus.com/comics/april-5-2015/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Happy weekend - join the #Mapathon!
Madison Maptime Mapathon will begin in 1.5 hours, and it's a beautiful day here! In case there are Madisonians on the list who for some strange reason have missed the event announcment, please do come! http://maptime.io/madison/event/2015/04/12/event/ On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 11:28 AM Serge Wroclawski wrote: > Just want to report that the OSM NYC Meetup yesterday went great! > > It's a shame that I didn't know the weather today would be a so much > warmer, but there's no way to plan for things like that weeks in > advance... > > - Serge > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Alex Barth wrote: > > Join this weekend at the US wide spring #mapathon. Find the official > > locations on the OpenStreetMap US blog or just join from home. All you > need > > to join is tag your edits #mapathon in the changeset comment. As always, > > outdoors surveys and indoors activities are welcome! > > > > http://openstreetmap.us/2015/04/spring-mapathon/ > > > > Happy weekend everyone - > > > > Alex > > > > -- > > Alex Barth > > Vice President > > OpenStreetMap United States Inc. > > > > ___ > > Talk-us mailing list > > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Happy weekend - join the #Mapathon!
Just want to report that the OSM NYC Meetup yesterday went great! It's a shame that I didn't know the weather today would be a so much warmer, but there's no way to plan for things like that weeks in advance... - Serge On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Alex Barth wrote: > Join this weekend at the US wide spring #mapathon. Find the official > locations on the OpenStreetMap US blog or just join from home. All you need > to join is tag your edits #mapathon in the changeset comment. As always, > outdoors surveys and indoors activities are welcome! > > http://openstreetmap.us/2015/04/spring-mapathon/ > > Happy weekend everyone - > > Alex > > -- > Alex Barth > Vice President > OpenStreetMap United States Inc. > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
