Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OHM] Fwd: moving data from OSM to OHM - what should the markers be?
Am 18.05.2015 um 15:11 schrieb Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net: in OSM, i tag at least the basic, visible course as highway=track, with start_date and end_date when known (which is usually the case for US and Canada tracks - i have references which I am not familiar with the context/setting but wouldn't use highway track for a way that is not built for agricultural/forestral/fishing purposes, highway=raceway would be better (also because your start and end date tags are referring to this, not to the highway=track) cheers Martin ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OHM] Fwd: moving data from OSM to OHM - what should the markers be?
On 5/18/15 9:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 18.05.2015 um 15:11 schrieb Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net: in OSM, i tag at least the basic, visible course as highway=track, with start_date and end_date when known (which is usually the case for US and Canada tracks - i have references which I am not familiar with the context/setting but wouldn't use highway track for a way that is not built for agricultural/forestral/fishing purposes, highway=raceway would be better (also because your start and end date tags are referring to this, not to the highway=track) well, it's no longer used as a raceway, which is the reason for going to the disused: namespace for that tag. in theory they could become active again, although in most cases that's very, very unlikely. i doubt there will ever be a rendering specific to disused raceways and i dont think we want them rendered the same way as active raceways. disused: is there and works for this. it's really kind of a hole in the tagging system. they were never public roads and aren't now. they're not currently active raceways, but they are visible artifacts. i could omit the highway tag altogether, in which case they would not render on openstreetmap.org, which is ok with me. this is why i'm looking for input. i'm really pretty ok with not providing a highway tag at all, as there isn't really a version that's right. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OHM] Fwd: moving data from OSM to OHM - what should the markers be?
[this is a lightly revised version of something i sent over to the OHM mailing list last night] i didn't really get any input here, but i have made some progress in deciding what to do about the issue with visible remnants of old race tracks. i think that what i'm doing is consistent with the norms for tagging in both OSM and OHM. in OSM, i tag at least the basic, visible course as highway=track, with start_date and end_date when known (which is usually the case for US and Canada tracks - i have references which are pretty comprehensive.) additionally, i set disused:highway=raceway which the renderer for www.openstreetmap.org ignores. anyone looking at it in JOSM or Potlatch should be able to figure out what is going on and hopefully either ignore it or improve it. in OHM, i give it the full treatment as if it were a current race track, with of course start_date and end_date. the three drag strips i provided as examples (Bee Line, Motion and Motor City) are now tagged in this manner. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search ___ Historic mailing list histo...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/historic signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM TED Style Talk - Fort Collins Colorado
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.com wrote: I have been accepted to deliver a TED style talk at the FoCOFuture Forum (Fort Collins Colorado) on Wednesday May 27th. The title of my presentation is Shaping our Communities Through Maps, and of course it is about OSM! Additional details are here: http://univercityconnections.org/ Mike - Congratulations. I won't be in the area, but would appreciate a link to the talk when it is available. Thanks, Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] OSM TED Style Talk - Fort Collins Colorado
I have been accepted to deliver a TED style talk at the FoCOFuture Forum (Fort Collins Colorado) on Wednesday May 27th. The title of my presentation is Shaping our Communities Through Maps, and of course it is about OSM! Additional details are here: http://univercityconnections.org/ The event is open to the public, so if you are in the area, please attend (preregistration is required). Mike ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Fwd: Re: [OHM] Fwd: moving data from OSM to OHM - what should the markers be?
on a tangentially related note... the first person who comes up to me at SOTM-US and asks will get copies of _History of America's Speedways_ and the 2015 National Speedway Directory. i will have them with me at my talk Saturday morning unless someone asks to me before that. must be in person, no email, text or other electronic requests will be honored. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] OSM TED Style Talk - Fort Collins Colorado
Cliff, Thanks! I think the organizer is videoing the presentations, and I will share a link with the OSM community. Any advice from your speaking experience? I only have seven minutes! Mike On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.com wrote: I have been accepted to deliver a TED style talk at the FoCOFuture Forum (Fort Collins Colorado) on Wednesday May 27th. The title of my presentation is Shaping our Communities Through Maps, and of course it is about OSM! Additional details are here: http://univercityconnections.org/ Mike - Congratulations. I won't be in the area, but would appreciate a link to the talk when it is available. Thanks, Clifford -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Deletion rampage by a certain user
Can the tools filter selected items from a change set when performing undelete? IE. only undelete stuff from Clay? If not is there a reasonable way to export the changeset and manually review then re-upload as new or undeleted items? Sorry not familiar with the details of doing an changeset restore/undelete. Dale Dale Puch On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 7:13 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 05/19/2015 12:51 AM, Clay Smalley wrote: Last winter, I drove around a bunch of neighborhoods with my GPS and manually added them into OSM. I wanted to add a few more neighborhoods today, so I opened up OSM and went to that area, and a significant chunk of my additions were mysteriously deleted. At first glance it really looks as if the user did nothing more than random deletions across the country. I wonder why it hasn't been noticed before. Then again, many of the objects he deleted are ones he had created himself - perhaps he did that with the good intention the clean up after having been told that copying from Google is not allowed. Perhaps your stuff was accidentally deleted with his own? I sent him a message about it, and he hasn't responded. This is pretty frustrating. What can I do about this? We can easily undelete things, however we'd have to make sure we identify the right changesets to undo, else we might re-create things copied from Google! It appears to me that simply undeleting all objects deleted in your list of changesets would have this undesirable effect. Also there's a slight danger of bringing stuff back that was deleted 2 months ago and someone else has meanwhile drawn the missing bit again, which would lead to duplicates. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Deletion rampage by a certain user
Hi, On 05/19/2015 12:51 AM, Clay Smalley wrote: Last winter, I drove around a bunch of neighborhoods with my GPS and manually added them into OSM. I wanted to add a few more neighborhoods today, so I opened up OSM and went to that area, and a significant chunk of my additions were mysteriously deleted. At first glance it really looks as if the user did nothing more than random deletions across the country. I wonder why it hasn't been noticed before. Then again, many of the objects he deleted are ones he had created himself - perhaps he did that with the good intention the clean up after having been told that copying from Google is not allowed. Perhaps your stuff was accidentally deleted with his own? I sent him a message about it, and he hasn't responded. This is pretty frustrating. What can I do about this? We can easily undelete things, however we'd have to make sure we identify the right changesets to undo, else we might re-create things copied from Google! It appears to me that simply undeleting all objects deleted in your list of changesets would have this undesirable effect. Also there's a slight danger of bringing stuff back that was deleted 2 months ago and someone else has meanwhile drawn the missing bit again, which would lead to duplicates. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Deletion rampage by a certain user
Hi all, Last winter, I drove around a bunch of neighborhoods with my GPS and manually added them into OSM. I wanted to add a few more neighborhoods today, so I opened up OSM and went to that area, and a significant chunk of my additions were mysteriously deleted. I investigated a little, and it looks like Cam4rd98 [1] went to various parts of the US and deleted a lot of ways without any explanation over the course of 3 days [2]. In my area in particular (Katy, TX), I noticed he specifically deleted neighborhoods mapped by me and left intact the neighborhoods others had mapped. (side note, this might be retaliation for me calling him out on copying from Google Maps? I'm not sure if he knows that was me, but it might be relevant.) I sent him a message about it, and he hasn't responded. This is pretty frustrating. What can I do about this? Clay [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Cam4rd98 [2] http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~clay/deletions.html ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
