Re: [Talk-us] Removing a CDP

2015-05-20 Thread Serge Wroclawski
I agree with Rich Welty- if you know the area and the CDP boundary
makes no sense, then remove it.

The issue in the past has been where some people wanted to remove all of them.

- Serge

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote:
 I would like to remove Machias, Washington admin_level  8 since it does not
 exist as a city in Washington. It has been there for a number of years
 apparently added by a bot. I plan to leave it as a CDP locality node. There
 doesn't seem to be any chance that it will become a city and will most
 likely be annex by Lake Stevens.

 Before I do I'd like to hear people opinion about deleting these
 admin_level=8 for CDP boundaries.

 Clifford

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Re: [Talk-us] Deletion rampage by a certain user

2015-05-20 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Mon, 2015-05-18 at 22:51 +, Clay Smalley wrote:

 
 [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Cam4rd98
 [2] http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~clay/deletions.html

Missing from this list is
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/29727822 which breaks TX 99 near
US 290. I just now found this today. (with help from someone on IRC)

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Re: [Talk-us] Deletion rampage by a certain user

2015-05-20 Thread Clay Smalley
That is in fact on the list, and it's actually the changeset that I
reverted.

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 3:20 PM Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com wrote:

 On Mon, 2015-05-18 at 22:51 +, Clay Smalley wrote:

 
  [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Cam4rd98
  [2] http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~clay/deletions.html

 Missing from this list is
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/29727822 which breaks TX 99 near
 US 290. I just now found this today. (with help from someone on IRC)

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Re: [Talk-us] Deletion rampage by a certain user

2015-05-20 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Wed, 2015-05-20 at 20:27 +, Clay Smalley wrote:
 That is in fact on the list, and it's actually the changeset that I
 reverted.
 
Indeed it is, I'm going cross-eyed from looking at changeset numbers. My
apologies.

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[Talk-us] State of the Map US: ticket sales close June 1

2015-05-20 Thread Alex Barth
If you haven't gotten your ticket yet for State of the Map US do so soon:
ticket sales close on June 1!

You can register over on the conference web site http://stateofthemap.us/

The ticket sales close five days before conference start because we need to
get a UN security pass for all attendees. For the same reason we won't be
able to register on a walk-in basis throughout the conference.

Note that if you haven't booked an accommodation yet, there are still great
and affordable options through New School open:
http://stateofthemap.us/venue

Cheers and looking forward to seeing you in New York City!

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Re: [Talk-us] Removing a CDP

2015-05-20 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Brad,

Thank you for reminding us of what the Census office says that CDPs are.

I would just add that CDPs are used in some places as de-facto cities
or towns, which is why we've rejected proposals to remove them all.

- Serge

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Re: [Talk-us] Removing a CDP

2015-05-20 Thread Brad Neuhauser
Just to reinforce what has already been said, here's what the Census thinks
of CDPs:

Census Designated Places (CDPs) are the statistical counterparts of
 incorporated places, and are* delineated to provide data for settled
 concentrations of population that are identifiable by name but are not
 legally incorporated* under the laws of the state in which they are
 located.   The boundaries usually are defined in cooperation with local or
 tribal officials and generally updated prior to each decennial census.   
 *These
 boundaries, which usually coincide with visible features or the boundary of
 an adjacent incorporated place or another legal entity boundary, have no
 legal status, nor do these places have officials elected to serve
 traditional municipal functions*.   CDP boundaries may change from one
 decennial census to the next with changes in the settlement pattern; a CDP
 with the same name as in an earlier census does not necessarily have the
 same boundary.   CDPs must be contained within a single state and may not
 extend into an incorporated place.   There are no population size
 requirements for CDPs.


https://www.census.gov/geo/reference/gtc/gtc_place.html

Actual local administrative entities tend to be Places and sometimes County
Subdivisions, but it really varies by state. If you want to dig that deep,
you can view info about each state's census geography here:
https://www.census.gov/geo/reference/geoguide.html

Brad

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:13 AM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree with Rich Welty- if you know the area and the CDP boundary
 makes no sense, then remove it.

 The issue in the past has been where some people wanted to remove all of
 them.

 - Serge

 On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us
 wrote:
  I would like to remove Machias, Washington admin_level  8 since it does
 not
  exist as a city in Washington. It has been there for a number of years
  apparently added by a bot. I plan to leave it as a CDP locality node.
 There
  doesn't seem to be any chance that it will become a city and will most
  likely be annex by Lake Stevens.
 
  Before I do I'd like to hear people opinion about deleting these
  admin_level=8 for CDP boundaries.
 
  Clifford
 
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