Re: [Talk-us] How to tag US/CA border crossing telephones?
Wow, didn't think there was any of these left, though I'm aware of a similar situation in Victoria where my last visit (pre-9/11) was greeted with a sign on the top of the Government Street pier that said we needed to call 1-800-CAN-PASS. A customs officer ran down the street from one of the government buildings to meet us... On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Nate Wessel bike...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure if these are common enough to warrant their own tagging scheme, but the US/Canada have these little video phones posted around marinas on the great lakes(at least). The idea is that people crossing the border by boat will call in with the phone and show the immigration officer on the other end their passport and face and tell them that they've crossed the border. It's all very civilized and polite :-) How should we tag these? I took a preliminary stab at one here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3638039953 Thanks, Nate Wessel ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] User yapple seems to have made some bad edits and then gone away
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/yapple/history All are commented as Testing. Do not take it seriously... /Stellan ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] User yapple seems to have made some bad edits and then gone away
I would try 1) adding a comment to the changeset first, saying something like: 'at OpenStreetMap we love to have fun but we take mappping very seriously. Please head over to Opengeofiction if you want to draw fictional maps or use dev.osm.org for playing around.' 2) DMing the user with a similar message. Martijn Martijn van Exel Sent using CloudMagic [https://cloudmagic.com/k/d/mailapp?ct=picv=6.4.27pv=8.3] On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Stellan Lagerström stel...@zezame.com wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/yapple/history All are commented as Testing. Do not take it seriously... /Stellan ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Railway crossing challenge for MapRoulette
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Matijn, By the way, what is the difference between crossing and level_crossing? I treat highway=crossing the same as railway=crossing. That would be a place where a horse, bike, skateboard, foot path, etc. would cross the railway. I also apply all the related highway=crossing tags to the railway=crossing nodes. I've used this mostly around light rail crossings. There are also additional tags that could be added to a level crossing: A level crossing (where a road crosses a railway, usually with a gate and big flashing traffic light). http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dlevel_crossing That would require additional tasks to survey the crossings. Adding the crossings would be a good first step for a survey phase. Armchair mapping any survey mapping can coexist! At 03:30 PM 7/7/2015, you wrote: Hey Mike — Crossings already present in OSM will not be excluded, but can be easily skipped over. In most cases you can see them on the rendered map tiles so no need for a round trip to the editor. Martijn van Exel I see the why Martijn would be hard pressed to exclude crossings that are already in the OSM. He's using the Federal Railway Administration, FRA, data as a punch list in this challenge. Perhaps you can add additional features to a crossing in this challenge, if you know that bells and whistles exist at a crossing. Greg ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Railway crossing challenge for MapRoulette
On Wednesday, July 08, 2015 11:43:50 AM Greg Morgan wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Charlotte Wolter techl...@techlady.com wrote: Matijn, By the way, what is the difference between crossing and level_crossing? I treat highway=crossing the same as railway=crossing. That would be a place where a horse, bike, skateboard, foot path, etc. would cross the railway. I also apply all the related highway=crossing tags to the railway=crossing nodes. I've used this mostly around light rail crossings. I think highway=crossing is for pedestrian crossing on a highway, not a railroad. The wiki[0] specifically calls this out. railway=crossing is for pedestrian crossing of a railway[1] and railway=level_crossing is where a highway crosses a railway[2]. [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcrossing [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dcrossing [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:railway%3Dlevel_crossing --Eric ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] How to tag US/CA border crossing telephones?
Nate Wessel writes: I'm not sure if these are common enough to warrant their own tagging scheme, but the US/Canada have these little video phones posted around marinas on the great lakes(at least). The idea is that people crossing the border by boat will call in with the phone and show the immigration officer on the other end their passport and face and tell them that they've crossed the border. It's all very civilized and polite :-) How should we tag these? I took a preliminary stab at one here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3638039953http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3638039953 Nate, this is an interesting thing to tag! Where to begin?! First, I want to get started on the right foot by suggesting that amenity=telephone seems like the correct place to begin tagging these things. It is also a video phone, which is simply becoming more common in the 21st century, so we want to capture generic video phone (like a phone booth, but with video) vs. specialized video phone, like this one is. I'm not proposing a syntax or tagging scheme (yet), but do I welcome suggestions from the wider perspective of OSM and those knowledgeable about the gamut of video phones and their associated technology as of today, as well as with an eye towards how video phone technology will progress in the near- and longer-term future. THEN, there is the whole topic of how and whether border guards get to, or can, or do, or might, or shall look at your passport when you cross an international border. (I mean legally speaking, no matter how polite or civilized). I suppose a simplified version of how I feel about this is to say if it is legally required, do so... but there are a whole host of gray zones here I'm only touching the tip of the iceberg by mentioning here. So I'll just stop with that aspect of it (as talk-us may not be the appropriate venue -- perhaps a Discussion page in our wiki is) and leave it at that. SteveA California___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Railway crossing challenge for MapRoulette
Great Topic, Interesting that I have been doing my own research into this data set. I can tell you without a doubt that some of the information is way out of date or wrong. (http://fragis.frasafety.net/GISFRASafety/) It is my understanding that railroads are supposed to report data like this to the UTC (utilities and transportation commission) and in some way make it back to the FRA. You can find the more up to date Washington UTC data set here: http://www.utc.wa.gov/regulatedIndustries/transportation/rail/Pages/CrossingInventory.aspx There is a new FRA regulation going into effect in October to place clear emergency contact information at each level_crossing or Highway crossing. Lori Halstead of the Washington UTC hopes that following that deadline that the FRA database will be updated. One example, check any railroad crossing in the city limits of Kirkland, WA; if it is active with a current listing for railroad it is out of date by 5 years as the city owns the right of way and much of it has been turned into a trail with no rail or crossing protections. Best Regards, Nathan P email: natf...@gmail.com On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi all, I have done some work to turn the FRA crossing data into a MapRoulette challenge to fix missing railway crossings. Here is the description I have come up with for now: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4xh49ufnwyxp35r/Screenshot%202015-07-06%2008.43.21.png?dl=0 Please share your corrections / feedback so I can improve this if necessary before I push it live. (In particular I am never sure whether to use crossing or level_crossing.) Thanks, Martijn ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Railway crossing challenge for MapRoulette
On 7/8/2015 2:43 PM, Greg Morgan wrote: I see the why Martijn would be hard pressed to exclude crossings that are already in the OSM. He's using the Federal Railway Administration, FRA, data as a punch list in this challenge. Perhaps you can add additional features to a crossing in this challenge, if you know that bells and whistles exist at a crossing. I was thinking of NY State for example, where all crossings already exist in OSM. Those would just be empty tasks. Since they're all points, it should be easy to do a pre-conflation to exclude existing matches. But I haven't looked at FRA data - perhaps it doesn't include GPS location? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
