Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-04 Thread Mike N

On 8/4/2015 5:21 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:

I didn't want to make the instructions too convoluted. We can always
go back in and manually check for these 'unjoined crossings'. I am
just mentioning


 Yes - this should be relatively easy to detect afterwards: duplicate 
node where one or more are marked as level_crossing.



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Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-04 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 It certainly helped speed things up the last time! What I remember is
 prizes get a little messy to organize if you allow non-US participants
 to enter. Other than that all you need is commitment from a company.
 Perhaps an Amtrak gift card!


Who has the OSM-US twitter account? Let's post the Rail Crossing
Maproulette challenge on twitter looking for support from UP, BNSF, Amtrak,
etc. At the very least we might end up with more mappers.

Clifford


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Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-04 Thread Martijn van Exel
I didn't want to make the instructions too convoluted. We can always
go back in and manually check for these 'unjoined crossings'. I am
just mentioning it here because there's a lot of more experienced
mappers here.
Martijn van Exel
skype: mvexel


On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:01 PM Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 Also, please even if you see the crossing rendered, do go in and
 check, because I have seen more than once that the crossing node is
 not a shared node between way and rail. (Hint, use 'j' to join node to
 way and 'm' to merge nodes that are (almost) on top of each other.)

 If that's the case, you should make that clear in the instructions. I have
 marked a bunch of tasks as false-positive without checking based on the
 rendering.

  Harald.

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Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-04 Thread Clifford Snow
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 I didn't want to make the instructions too convoluted. We can always
 go back in and manually check for these 'unjoined crossings'. I am
 just mentioning it here because there's a lot of more experienced
 mappers here.


The instructions are fine. Most of what I've found are false positives and
crossings that need railway=level_crossing. Most that needed the
level_crossing are unconnected although not all. A few were missing the
street/footway/track and some are now bridges.

We still need to do a lot of work on streets in rural areas. I've ended up
fixing a few in order to add the crossing.

Would be nice if a company were to offer some prize for getting this
completed. Union Pacific is pushing for rail crossing safety. We should
consider approaching UP and BN for some incentives for getting people to
map crossings. Martijn, you have more experience with offering prizes, what
is your take?


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Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-04 Thread Harald Kliems
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:01 PM Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 Also, please even if you see the crossing rendered, do go in and
 check, because I have seen more than once that the crossing node is
 not a shared node between way and rail. (Hint, use 'j' to join node to
 way and 'm' to merge nodes that are (almost) on top of each other.)

If that's the case, you should make that clear in the instructions. I have
marked a bunch of tasks as false-positive without checking based on the
rendering.

 Harald.
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Re: [Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge - fix railway crossings

2015-08-04 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hey all,

Just a note that these are only the first 2 tasks of what should
be a ~75k task challenge altogether. So depending on how the FRA
sorted the data, it may expose regional gaps for that reason.

Also, please even if you see the crossing rendered, do go in and
check, because I have seen more than once that the crossing node is
not a shared node between way and rail. (Hint, use 'j' to join node to
way and 'm' to merge nodes that are (almost) on top of each other.)

Thanks again all for participating! Almost 2500 done already. I think
it's a fun challenge too.

Martijn
Martijn van Exel
skype: mvexel


On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 2, 2015 at 8:17 AM, Mike N nice...@att.net wrote:

 It was a pleasant dive into the latest MapRoulette challenge - my
 impression now is that most road-rail intersections in the US have
 previously been touched.  The stats for the fix railway challenge seem to
 confirm this: 75% are skipped or have been previously completed.


 This is a fun and easy challenge. If you have a few minutes to kill, this is
 the challenge.

 Some observations:
 I've left JOSM open since I started. Two sections of the country seem to be
 missing, the Southwest and Southeast. There are a few in California and
 Arizona/NM but nothing so far, as far as I can see, in Mississippi, Alabama,
 Florida, Georgia, Tenn, the Virginias, or the Carolina's.

 It would be nice if the render could add the X to all nearby tracks, at
 least until we complete this challenge. I check if not all of the tracks are
 rendered with an X Some times they are missing other times they are
 mapped.

 Clifford


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