Re: [Talk-us] Key:man_made... Outdated language?

2017-03-11 Thread Russ Nelson
Richard Fairhurst writes:
 > Joshua Houston wrote:
 > > It occurred to me that "man_made" is an outdated term that should be 
 > > phased out from OpenStreetMap language.
 > 
 > FWIW, the lingua franca of OSM tagging is British English: so, colour rather
 > than color, and so on.
 > 
 > man_made is possibly not too different. I can see how it might sound jarring
 > to US ears

Some of us remember that women are humans, too.

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[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2017-03-08

2017-03-11 Thread Dave Hansen
These are based off of Lambertus's work here:

http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel
free to ask.  However, please do not send me private mail.  The
odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by
asking on the talk-us@ list, others can benefit.

Downloads:

http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2017-03-08

Map to visualize what each file contains:


http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2017-03-08/kml/kml.html


FAQ



Why did you do this?

I wrote scripts to joined them myself to lessen the impact
of doing a large join on Lambertus's server.  I've also
cut them in large longitude swaths that should fit conveniently
on removable media.  

http://daveh.dev.openstreetmap.org/garmin/Lambertus/2017-03-08

Can or should I seed the torrents?

Yes!!  If you use the .torrent files, please seed.  That web
server is in the UK, and it helps to have some peers on this
side of the Atlantic.

Why is my map missing small rectangular areas?

There have been some missing tiles from Lambertus's map (the
red rectangles),  I don't see any at the moment, so you may
want to update if you had issues with the last set.

Why can I not copy the large files to my new SD card?

If you buy a new card (especially SDHC), some are FAT16 from
the factory.  I had to reformat it to let me create a >2GB
file.

Does your map cover Mexico/Canada?

Yes!!  I have, for the purposes of this map, annexed Ontario
in to the USA.  Some areas of North America that are close
to the US also just happen to get pulled in to these maps.
This might not happen forever, and if you would like your
non-US area to get included, let me know. 

-- Dave


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[Talk-us] How to apply changesets

2017-03-11 Thread David Niklas
Hello,
I do know what the command line using omosis looks like (and I have
osmosis).
What I don't know is this.

1: Do I need every changes set or just the latest of the year?
2: If I need multiple changesets, can I apply them all at once using
multiple --read-xml-change directives?

Thanks,
David

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Re: [Talk-us] Key:man_made... Outdated language?

2017-03-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Joshua Houston wrote:
> It occurred to me that "man_made" is an outdated term that should be 
> phased out from OpenStreetMap language.

FWIW, the lingua franca of OSM tagging is British English: so, colour rather
than color, and so on.

British English does of course have different cultural assumptions to
American English. As an example in the opposite direction, I remain
genuinely astonished that there is a US movement called "GeoLadies". Here in
Britain, if you described any woman under 80 as a "lady", you would probably
be expecting a slap; it's generally a patronising and slightly pejorative
word with connotations of passivity and indolence, and outside of those
parts of London influenced by the US, I don't see that it's been reclaimed.

That isn't to say that GeoLadies is objectively wrong: it isn't wrong in the
slightest. Just that, inevitably, some cultural references fall differently
in different parts of the world.

man_made is possibly not too different. I can see how it might sound jarring
to US ears but it's not something at which anyone would bat an eyelid in
Britain. (And of course, going to the country where OSM has historically
been strongest, "man" is a neutral pronoun in German.) Nothing is going to
be entirely consistent across all the cultures in which OSM is used.

Of course, there is a great irony in that this thread has been populated by
people called Joshua, Joel, Ian, Brian, Harald, Mike, Frederik, Blake,
Clifford, Kevin, and Richard, so maybe we should shut the heck up and let
some women have their say.

cheers
Richard



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