Re: [Talk-us] Proposition for changing the common name tag

[Minh Nguyen]

On 2018-08-16 09:51, Daniel Koć wrote:

Hi,

I wanted to let you know about proposed change in tagging the name of 
USA and I seek for the feedback about it - see the proposition here:


https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=63384 


There are arguments to be made for either name, but `name=United States` 
`official_name=United States of America` seems like a perfectly 
common-sense way to tag it.


I had always assumed it was tagged `name=United States of America` 
because of the vastness and blankness of this country in the 
openstreetmap-carto style at zoom level 3 in Web Mercator projection. 
(Canada needs a longer name, clearly.) But that would be mapping for the 
renderer, so by all means shorten it.


Some of the `name:*` tags on the U.S. relation seem to have taken after 
`name` by unnecessarily including the equivalent of "of America". For 
example, `name:es=Estados Unidos de América` and `name:fr=États-Unis 
d'Amérique`. By contrast, there are few `official_name:*` tags on the 
U.S. relation. These tags might need to be reviewed -- perhaps checked 
against Wikipedia article titles -- to ensure that they too follow 
common practice in the respective languages.


On 2018-08-16 10:33, Jack Burke wrote:
> I am opposed to this suggestion, because there are two countries called
> "United States" in North America: the United States of America, and the
> United States of Mexico.

To be pedantic, the official name in Spanish is "Estados Unidos 
Mexicanos", rather than "Estados Unidos de México". So the official 
English name is "United Mexican States", not "United States of Mexico".


Even if Venezuela hadn't changed its official name from "United States 
of Venezuela" (Estados Unidos de Venezuela), I'd still stick to "United 
States" for the U.S., because it wouldn't cause any confusion between 
the two countries. It would be very different if someone were to propose 
`name=America`, reasoning that it's the most common name.


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Re: [Talk-us] buggy buildings in Maryland

[Elliott Plack]

Here's a potential fix: use the SimplifyArea JOSM Plugin.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/SimplifyArea

The plugin is built for fixing over-noded and buggy imports.

As a test, I downloaded the plugin and then downloaded some of
Annapolis sailor's buildings.

This building should only contain four nodes:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/525751797

This building should only contain eight nodes:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/526209538

The plugin successfully reduced the nodes for both buildings without
affecting the shape, unlike the simplify way tool.

I tested it on a larger swath of 500 buildings and it took less than a
second to run.

I haven't uploaded any of the changes yet, but I think this would be a good
path forward.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 8:02 PM Frederik Ramm  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 08/16/2018 08:08 PM, Elliott Plack wrote:
> > I'd say go ahead and remove the extraneous nodes
>
> This has now been done.
>
> > and also any buildings
> > that are either version 0 or do not have any new tags (like names or
> > addresses)
>
> It appears that of the 177,151 buildings still there, only 29,513 have
> tags other than building=*. In most cases, these other tags are
> addr:street and addr:housenumber.
>
> I'll let this rest for a bit to give others a chance to chime in.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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