[Talk-us] Twitch MapRoulette session Tuesday

2020-08-09 Thread Martijn van Exel
Hi all,

I've been doing some informal Twitch streaming sessions just doing some JOSM 
mapping, and it was quite fun. I will do another one this Tuesday specifically 
about creating a MapRoulette Challenge. I will be starting at 19:00 US Mountain 
Time[1].

If you have an idea for a MapRoulette Challenge that you'd like me to cover, 
let me know and I'll do my best.

My Twitch channel is here: https://www.twitch.tv/mvexel 

Hope to see some of you then;

[1] 
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20200811T19=220=Twitch+%23OpenStreetMap+MapRoulette+Session=cursive
 

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Re: [Talk-us] Potential Import of Addresses for Thurston County, WA, USA

2020-08-09 Thread Mark Wagner
On Sun, 09 Aug 2020 03:53:55 -0700
Raven King  wrote:

> Hello:
> 
> I discovered that Thurston County, WA publishes a database of
> addresses stored as gps pins inside a shape file. 
> The data can be found here:
> https://gisdata-thurston.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/thurston-address-points-tcomm?geometry=-122.915%2C47.023%2C-122.914%2C47.023
> 
> The license can be seen where it has a link labeled "Custom License"
> next to a picture of a lock. I didn't see anything in there that would
> prohibit our use of this, but extra eyes are needed. 

The most interesting clauses in the license is:

"Users are not authorized to license, re-license, assign, release
publish, transfer, sell or otherwise make available any portion of
these Data, or any information from GIS data derived from these
Datasets, to a third party in any format revealing Thurston County as
the source of the data."

This solves the attribution issue quite nicely: we're *forbidden* to
credit this data to Thurston County. 

> The database has 128,639 addresses. My goal would be to import the
> entirety of it into OSM, as Thurston county has very few addresses in
> OSM. They would be imported as points, since the database has them
> stored as points.
> 
> The caveats I see are as follows:
> * The database probably has some addresses that are wrong. While
> everything I could verify has been correct, I only checked about 100
> addresses. 

A quick look at the data in JOSM doesn't reveal any large-scale
problems.  Some observations: 

* Almost every point corresponds to a building or some other object
  (eg. a parking lot) that would reasonably be expected to have an
  address.  There are a few oddities, such as a wetland.

* There are a few multi-story apartment buildings where the address
  points don't correspond to the actual locations of the units.

* I think you'll want to build street names off the "StreetName",
  "St_PreMod", "St_PreDir", "St_PreType", "St_PosDir", and "St_PosType"
  fields rather than any of the other fields.

* There are seven duplicate addresses in the data.

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Re: [Talk-us] Anyone familiar with Rocky Mountain National Park (RMNP)?

2020-08-09 Thread Mike Thompson
Mateusz, Kevin, Thanks for the advice.  I will probably reach out to the
original mapper again, and if no source is provided, delete the names.

Mike

On Sun, Aug 9, 2020 at 11:27 AM Kevin Kenny  wrote:

> The 'names' look like someone's field notes: 'Tarn A', 'Tarn B', 'Tarn C',
> 'Tarn Off the Map', 'Tarn Off the Trail', rather than something that the
> locals would call them.
>
> Of course, people's field notes leak into imported data sources all the
> time.
>
> For the sake of not firing the first shot in an edit war, since the mapper
> is responsive, ask if there's any objection to removing the questionable
> names?
>
> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 3:15 PM Mike Thompson  wrote:
>
>> I thought the names of these water bodies[0] in RMNP were suspect because:
>> 1) The names do not appear in the GNIS,
>> 2) The names do not appear on the USGS topo
>> 3) The names do not appear in the NHD
>> 4) The names do not appear on the RMNP map that is handed out to visitors
>> 5) I have hiked past here several times but have never seen signs naming
>> these bodies of water.
>> 6) I asked the mapper that added the names what their source was, and
>> they said they didn't remember.
>> 7) I have several hiking books covering RMNP and none mention these water
>> bodies using these names.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> [0]
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429681825
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429451427
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429681824
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429681823
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429451428
>>
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Re: [Talk-us] Anyone familiar with Rocky Mountain National Park (RMNP)?

2020-08-09 Thread Kevin Kenny
The 'names' look like someone's field notes: 'Tarn A', 'Tarn B', 'Tarn C',
'Tarn Off the Map', 'Tarn Off the Trail', rather than something that the
locals would call them.

Of course, people's field notes leak into imported data sources all the
time.

For the sake of not firing the first shot in an edit war, since the mapper
is responsive, ask if there's any objection to removing the questionable
names?

On Sat, Aug 8, 2020 at 3:15 PM Mike Thompson  wrote:

> I thought the names of these water bodies[0] in RMNP were suspect because:
> 1) The names do not appear in the GNIS,
> 2) The names do not appear on the USGS topo
> 3) The names do not appear in the NHD
> 4) The names do not appear on the RMNP map that is handed out to visitors
> 5) I have hiked past here several times but have never seen signs naming
> these bodies of water.
> 6) I asked the mapper that added the names what their source was, and they
> said they didn't remember.
> 7) I have several hiking books covering RMNP and none mention these water
> bodies using these names.
>
> Mike
>
> [0]
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429681825
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429451427
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429681824
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429681823
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429451428
>
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[Talk-us] Potential Import of Addresses for Thurston County, WA, USA

2020-08-09 Thread Raven King
Hello:

I discovered that Thurston County, WA publishes a database of addresses
stored as gps pins inside a shape file. 
The data can be found here:
https://gisdata-thurston.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/thurston-address-points-tcomm?geometry=-122.915%2C47.023%2C-122.914%2C47.023

The license can be seen where it has a link labeled "Custom License"
next to a picture of a lock. I didn't see anything in there that would
prohibit our use of this, but extra eyes are needed. 

The database has 128,639 addresses. My goal would be to import the
entirety of it into OSM, as Thurston county has very few addresses in
OSM. They would be imported as points, since the database has them
stored as points.

The caveats I see are as follows:
* The database probably has some addresses that are wrong. While
everything I could verify has been correct, I only checked about 100
addresses. 
* There may be some overlap with buildings that already had addresses
entered. Since Thurston County has very few addresses in OSM, I don't
see this being a huge issue.

I have never done an import, and I do not know what the process for
both consensus and the actual import would be.

Sincerely,
Raven King


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[Talk-us] weeklyOSM #524 2020-07-28-2020-08-03

2020-08-09 Thread weeklyteam
The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 524,
is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of 
things happening in the openstreetmap world:

 https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/13472/

Enjoy! 

Did you know that you can also submit messages for the weeklyOSM? Just log in 
to https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login with your OSM account. Read more about 
how to write a post here: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm 

weeklyOSM? 
who: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
where?: 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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Re: [Talk-us] Anyone familiar with Rocky Mountain National Park (RMNP)?

2020-08-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us
Though I am sadly unfamiliar with Rocky Mountains -
but especially given (6) you are not obligated to make
even more research.


Aug 9, 2020, 10:44 by talk-us@openstreetmap.org:

> In such case removing this names should be fine.
>
>
> Aug 8, 2020, 21:12 by miketh...@gmail.com:
>
>> I thought the names of these water bodies[0] in RMNP were suspect because:
>> 1) The names do not appear in the GNIS,
>> 2) The names do not appear on the USGS topo
>> 3) The names do not appear in the NHD  
>> 4) The names do not appear on the RMNP map that is handed out to visitors
>> 5) I have hiked past here several times but have never seen signs naming 
>> these bodies of water.
>> 6) I asked the mapper that added the names what their source was, and they 
>> said they didn't remember.
>> 7) I have several hiking books covering RMNP and none mention these water 
>> bodies using these names.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> [0]
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429681825
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429451427
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429681824
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429681823
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429451428
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: [Talk-us] Anyone familiar with Rocky Mountain National Park (RMNP)?

2020-08-09 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-us
In such case removing this names should be fine.


Aug 8, 2020, 21:12 by miketh...@gmail.com:

> I thought the names of these water bodies[0] in RMNP were suspect because:
> 1) The names do not appear in the GNIS,
> 2) The names do not appear on the USGS topo
> 3) The names do not appear in the NHD  
> 4) The names do not appear on the RMNP map that is handed out to visitors
> 5) I have hiked past here several times but have never seen signs naming 
> these bodies of water.
> 6) I asked the mapper that added the names what their source was, and they 
> said they didn't remember.
> 7) I have several hiking books covering RMNP and none mention these water 
> bodies using these names.
>
> Mike
>
> [0]
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429681825
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429451427
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429681824
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429681823
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/429451428
>
>

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