Re: [Talk-us] United States Bicycle Route System ballot(s) pending AASHTO approval
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, September 18, 2020 1:53 PM, stevea wrote: > There are at least four new national bicycle routes "pending" in the USBRS! > (Ballots by state Departments of Transportation before AASHTO's Autumn 2020 > round): > USBR 201 in Maryland. This one has now been completed. The way is only good in one direction (east-to-west), however, and doesn't take into account the dual carriageways along the way. I like to see the nice, pretty straight line on the relation so I'm not sure if a separate relation is needed for going the opposite direction (east bound) or if one should just tag the other side of the road where applicable. In any case, this is done for the most part. - Sparks -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail wsFzBAEBCAAGBQJfaQElACEJEIB2q94CS7PRFiEECXyCw1LfxkpQwuOjgHar 3gJLs9FBoxAAxdDm3nCQ7Ht0RF723jEh6hRSp8810f/BdrqrS1UTxFFqnCUI uoP510wGFmLBHXXp73JvNg3MvqvXvn9QVBvrZs230+TzASNFpuw2gr47pojx 5hOt/9R69CUjNLhw+4cNVzpkEfvfPa1oJ+ySxdKtySULzkg/JehWfVL1CDQV 82JrC4AjWs0wWgoVFJkuM8GcskuRUxaVR/jffYhXP6dYVbVHM9bOD/4nbRRz nQ+fctc6pqwcueHKGPgqOFG/u1HVmFHXM0HaFV+ri3GDJFIdPizaHllI6Q30 yKorEzsZVUe2sSokoD1JfqXKmSxiTXtWmh1AXZ521SWPIEMlZpzPhzhtQEV5 nJWLsxQLOvY95XU7F6JgPFvbivGILNePjfj6vqudgGpcJC6J1o2rVc48oT1D Tx13FghKoFnUJIiVrwhVUooESadjJ3fFUoEMTv1cf6dxCdCtnJeDpK6NYtmS ecz54I7KEbK2SIf38snecTzCWpxTqqh+h1Z6YPXhK1dz67j+mAgp7G6yruJi aTjnx5qX+IvOn0NzNiYfGzaVK/bb3GRTpl6w5aymhNV03ltpLMHpqofcUeuP Yh3GTAJg5xTzhikE631EpR//MiB/lNmZOahRUT6Go8MXCwIvOFdvUQxnTdK4 FTVNXpXHd0V/QuGOnkR6dGzCk3EVaVQ+RJI= =v376 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Mapping the Future I-87?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 For the last few months, I've been seeing "Future I-87" signs along portions of US-64 and US-17 in North Carolina. I-87[0] exists on a section of highway near Raleigh, NC, and will eventually extend to Norfolk, VA. Should I start a relation for "Future I-87" and add those sections of highway that are already known to be part of the project to the relation? Thanks, Eric "Sparks" [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_87_(North_Carolina) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail wsFzBAEBCAAGBQJfQt1cACEJEIB2q94CS7PRFiEECXyCw1LfxkpQwuOjgHar 3gJLs9EUjA//ZBY8eSZoXnTN2ByudvCW06VeICe4rsqsGiZCtengmk4X1Lpr 3kn/+FmIU3q9Xf7UN2Ymsj6vhJFphCFqDhYFx91mSRWYzylIG4HYne9uNaNt wmQ7OF4k2ioFHoQYJikz7JaLQ1F4ugke7Oy5n7sqdXgeP2oNqfVVVURtyVKt 1h3m1mR5hgjuudxQPONwV6TJ2gX+XBIeKjEAdHXLo6Ock4rdcg5ZCL8kmxZx izRdqt9UQiyhi8ZQJ8L72LnhRQuHez13c4X3hKNBz79IQlLoXGC4TZECrcUy apfhn/YjvQ4MDs9dhQl+cEQ7W3Mq/+OOZZCfg0YUsaPxBpFtsiH+JEEjImwP aDaHXbjWteAUqT8LkDQntI5Otv3JEt31xI668OfMPQJqn3vYrpEH7qXKMCQu p8i5gn0ispeDKJUpsP1toxN6Esc4SwL6R+DJdHfm4EcrxUd0+FwJ2vmkYqrz uvY6deYg/S6fPDIbTselRKKcAC7t0CUtBFDsY2vyboSwclWvqB91V9SLc2W3 DNFEfY8QLn4HIFBeF+fOAw0vuYSz+KEjoE7CWY0HRv8BPdT7JyXsimUydTkT EZb2i4UqLtkN+vacfsLzPnLplj/xEk5dgbdnAM92bIpHz9Ni3I2QxRuvsQYD qWexjkVJJYmWX7yWtpc1LMDeLJ7soCJLPOg= =bv1B -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Marking structure as damaged or condemned
Tropical Storm Isaias left several homes in my neighborhood severely damaged and condemned. Is there a proper way to map these structures? Thanks, Eric ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] access=private on driveways
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 10:15 AM, Matthew Woehlke wrote: > The (possible) problem with having access implied by service=driveway is > that a lot of access roads to stores/businesses/offices are also > service=driveway... although I suppose you could argue these have the > same semantics; you shouldn't be using them unless you're actually going > to the location to which they provide access. (Which isn't to say that > no one ever violates this...) This ^^^ is, I believe, the crux of the matter. Driveways shouldn't (or should rarely be) access=private as they are actually access=destination. There are obvious times when you WANT someone to use your driveway. Are there times to mark a highway=* as access=private? Sure. But I don't think driveways should be, by default, thought of as private when they are expected to be used by people with a valid need to access the property. I believe that's what access=destination was designed for. It works on driveways and it works on neighborhood streets in gated communities (keeps the router from trying to route through the neighborhood) if my understanding is correct (at least it's worked well for me). R, Eric "Sparks" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail wsFcBAEBCAAGBQJfDccYAAoJEIB2q94CS7PRBPMQAMxSnFlcZIkyCBUGT4Gf U1n/O7OpZxDGSsNmWgD14xbJnOhQUuE75wWibnpioAnDTkSaxr+QuBLp9k/q LDzezu7zIFIkZNGWtG0AopR1H9cHbWFX4MnjgObIxonIKsSAxEjGjhhJeSge EfL8AE5CkcQQF8GWtqipnhQbWP+sIbrSfCdJKXiIbzfP6lXvAqUY0DPUQTsg SFD2nFUYwIkcV88ez2tEvBjtIzwBh0gSboLe14/fRSyAT1nl5Y8YRxbsfyY0 Q7ilBSz8BMLXH52afhnPaARbf7usYu1JBUbASiLoCN4eKZwVxNasZzawsVG/ guRnUsSSPdkWmu5AtJ4DPStbp3PbvBYVEue6V9Y7XHzFLqBckkP4lvhxXzKo n7A7Dga6i/l6aFAjyishAio4PzNqBk8LXOrXBQCjv4ChmKvJx96sGiXasz5V TQ2BQbV1z5pdd19DmSPwfseYmpYP/1wWsjIWi1BxBUVZh0QPNVLj32x9uG4Q FywjoR76EP59LS6wYinrxL5ndip42DevxRnKaG906lalQnEbwKlFpmsIg9bw wO1fF8Mx9JOawcYlUiX0JLq59nzPdR38AXjfrFHshoOQs6Ynn8z3fZBPsIAF R7nJaKT6rw3Uc0ONFgX6k3ApjYvEm0j8G9IkSHaM7Xmcgn7RTyvm8EWx6Uem QeTd =wdt9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Updating opening_hours for COVID-19.
Sure, I get that. The flip side is that it is likely to get confusing what is open and when with all the changes occurring. It would be good to have a resource to help people determine where they can go if they need something. Eric Original Message On Mar 19, 2020, 10:06, Rihards wrote: > On 19.03.20 15:49, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: >> On 3/13/20 15:36, Eric Christensen via Talk-us wrote: >>> I've been updating the opening_hours for businesses and services as I >>> hear about them closing or changing their hours of operation for >>> COVID-19. I'm also adding a note in the description with any >>> information the source is providing. >>> >>> Seems like a good idea to keep people updated to what's open and what's not. >>> >>> I wonder if anyone else is also doing this as well? >> >> Bad idea since these are emergency changes and unlikely to be permanent. >> I am putting in the "normal" hours where they are known, with the >> understanding that people should know locations will be changing their >> hours because of the situation and OSM's data will by necessity be out >> of date for this item. > > I decided not to do that pretty quickly - we will have a huge number of > changes later, as I expect many places to not just change their > permanent hours, but close. > -- > Rihards > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Wilderness areas separate from forest?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Sorry for the late entry to the discussion but I did have a little information to add here. Wilderness, at least at the federal level, enjoys a different protection from that of a national forest. There is to be no development or tree harvesting in such areas and even wildfire management may be different. I wouldn't necessarily start combining the two together as they are managed differently and have different purposes and landuse protections. Eric "Sparks" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail wsFcBAEBCAAGBQJeC7ILAAoJEIB2q94CS7PRxsUP/3U96edPZ2FWSN6TnqjU 4THwLHaUHz2qOQTNjm0Ctef7BZbDgck7omAELU2OJUpYELoU71vvqu9PRvI0 YMupqUoHf41jU7RZ0VIZglq9hCo5/SZDJ7MMghNQ6ANewF00bUsFToVWltJp hGT/07jw5Tz6gdZ/b5B9J9VLDqz4w5CXOCjMmhhY3LJ9kyn6E8DkBQa7seSV lIHc8WuEIs127wpMuIQAfykg9BEEBy/3suIpUSzF6YR5Nb6uTn3KQifGFoP0 XwMUR7cKcMrdz/j8PW24rpazrbA3UmelcbA7pasOPd3Z8icHRCxhBilWIQt2 bIIPU9Q8809pxwTKpY8hHizl6lWTjnvLcdG4JG8L7G9PidnC3gl64HMtN4YF 5e8A2qUrYycm27meWMlhGr/R3wDUtkJd343uZn7OCAK2qUR5Ms5wA0MYCT7j 40l5e52JQ6TbcrVMzmzfuioE+i06BZ7sCsTOySl3PtC/YP1hjQc+lHyi2MpQ EzUKJbUnjGH2in2mimJUxq9rq3xCEGQMTmXws7fnF7AlWuOShg+kDaWvwj9G Fi5f+TrBuKGgdPFAIgDcpVnKWgtWkGxIvV0h6l1mCpFCRi+mT8COHp8SBOAq DB7PpqspjCrAkKafzsIvHf0wfTWaQt+4XJvFjrhVRGFWxFQUPJJpj6Bq1g05 BbSJ =AFMX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Trunk VS primary,
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, December 19, 2019 2:19 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > I actually like your suggestion that highway=trunk does not add much value to > the U.S. map, Eric. > We love to add detail / granularity to OSM so much, it can become hard to > envisage taking some away. > Not saying we should abolish trunk right here and now, but something I'd > consider as one outcome. It does seem like there is a lot of arbitrary conditions separating some of these road types. It would be nice to have solid reasoning for tagging a roadway a certain way instead of how "important" it is. The routing engine should be able to take into account the road surface, number of stop lights, and other factors into consideration if there are multiple routes of similar highways that are "important", IMO. Any idea why trunk was established in the first place? --Sparks -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail wsFcBAEBCAAGBQJd+93IAAoJEIB2q94CS7PRz34QALpd+bUfV2YniWX9qVtb nzFxEsdPp8dzt/s4HewS93wDtSrVKM7rtuPLTnDetFrI4Yl5bZ3JfkrDRfDR KkxYbgU1/Fjrjz/MCJ+aoDh0SwKVwSUDMpX9nJtNxNHfaqjxu6Z86eKLcBX1 ceAUnTMoUQfDnWSH3TUPadQOkwij1r0Ja2EreKuSJwMk+geGs8qlVU0sNf0x 3KooDARDgIvTbul1344kt0QceK42py0P4RjqRsFJnjg9cCGa07BD1pb6R+qk 2xWL9Q0cCnbF/mhCQ1LoQvIzdgQl/4jvccQ7vyBwgkqbg1f63X0dDbQMPT6F mRtZ6almPUg0XP0jO33s7JKruMuO4OaJhMYY7h4N1EscjiDcm1zXzz5OCsXP 2QEKnSDkP6h0DAGL58A3rmI0c8z9qAUT+kVrLU1nJDb4WhUsNcpch87Rswi3 w9VFKBEAYVuD9EwJN37e8xG21SO289alvb1hVGzI914aovSbOElluDrQ3F8p yyD8d7m2wEebEjNzaKRHXVTC1bsiBzruZiUZt9K69Cxv5m3YJHW7giPagKEW V/o6kwBJOrXnwtF9U/AZCA+EhPF7Myb2tfMdPsWzr0kq4Yy0vfb9V7Y7Ldnw MlTc8QtIRUfjejWGV2mXDPxghGQ50YGnipG4NjVuSOhhs/yO3ZDOB0pDorxF VtwA =uMfV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Alaska Highway AK-2 tagging
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, December 16, 2019 8:21 PM, Anthony Costanzo wrote: > Given how these and other major > single-carriageway roads in northern and western Canada are tagged as > Trunk, tagging AK 2 as such would seem to be the option that defers to > regional precedent. Given the discussion we've had so far, unless there is strong opposition to doing so, I'm going to updating the tagging of AK-2 to 'trunk' from Canada to Eielson AFB for consistency. This is what it's tagged in the Yukon and, as SteveA points out, the differences between Trunk and Primary are little. This has been a very good discussion, though. R, Eric Sparks -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail wsFcBAEBCAAGBQJd+DJ4AAoJEIB2q94CS7PRk9QP/1r2BJ0oXsDgko/ohA9a EWDUgL+cR01GSBak4wJmSBXyFaeoOKcBEPRMsPq0iLE4VOXjkycJy9GwuXdr ojYF1wc7xADtdpUkZ08D2EttJEVbMM4UDSDHIIEQjaQD8mnthN0afnrIiVSI Icmr54t/UlieoIl4LCyyzrzn5O1vTXgLZWjcP7jcpK49Arvsrwm2ZB4TVUEa PJSVBjfQTM++mCG1ERr/L65abEETydYSvLT8e1TEAnbP/qYdta/nqDyGoEun O9annjr1XTfk8FcUAaAIzE/kFUQNOkMQ0q9dMl2HduWfAKHlIP3+b7UgrXdl o5gxXDuOKT9S35KVMOle4v5WW1la6rdoX3bm6uGKO5s8WgG6tvusCRURbXhE d3tEC5mNQh4tg2n+J/KX3xYxIK1v++7PxXuvIK4j+xDzbFmy3ynzWt2BgeG/ bWxy2BsPYiEpc9TD54LTroMIB3Qsg7YhMWbjxe1IMpKQIrqa1NitGTQdZadd af9ge15T9iiN0PKfGpf86/t1l/I/ABhROQPwdguCbJExobPNuBSz6DiyFAZU j+1UeIxTGr2mh6AMUVioxO3hoPb+YxrPIF3H6mpk7AtlSOHlX7C4a8Paoprb K1wGieDEbS71yxLmTfJE7qPrSMcvDh8SDqiORB3ODng+4A2ZTBEp0QCPeNqU lpjE =yYTA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Alaska Highway AK-2 tagging
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, December 16, 2019 7:35 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > My reading of the wiki indicates that for the United States a trunk is “a > high speed Arterial Divided highway that is partially grade separated.” [1] > > What is the problem with having the main road between regions/cities/towns > being “primary”? Do you like the rendering of trunk better? > > For myself if I planned a driving trip and was expecting a trunk road I’d > sure be surprised to find areas that are undivided and apparently, from other > responses in this thread, unpaved in sections. > > [1] > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States/Road_classification#Trunk I haven't seen that wiki page before. Looking at the trunk page[0], the highway need not be divided and the U.S.-specific portion says "Surface expressway: A relatively high-speed divided road (at least 40 MPH with a barrier or median separating each direction of traffic), with a limited amount of intersections and driveways; or a major intercity highway. This includes many U.S. Highways (that do not parallel an Interstate) and some state highways.". To me that meets the requirement for AK-2. [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dtrunk --Eric "Sparks" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail wsFcBAEBCAAGBQJd+CzBAAoJEIB2q94CS7PRypkP/RAFBNJ6CdK+ANv9HfQR 5K3wbuqfzB1xkXWEiZf0aVAEvLz7p3z5ZlGUUsTHxbSfUv0IY9IWtSWLerty tabpC1lsu0HM+JQCKcG5qvgtg38TLWMGUGEduODIgu9+9GmgD9Dd1KV1IS8s ujZteX5OMM35M3h3vmCLaEjvjO2fQzXzfPZxOX1gfWoPLTg36UFu+90Ppxlk vGhGvjehnqs8gbNaKtr+K4fNT1NeLsrna0/Hs3mxeeGXZGK+9c4FG/1S0fOJ PCyKFw0+R6DHIcVTgw/EjCWlF19wJvxJm4yr4/pNrQdG3gDdduX/gb8Gi5le P5h4KzSerMNonPdSLIvEcXC3AS2jvovyXbYvKMKC4rUF2emh/BMxr8Bu7kc+ FuNPZxDgg7jbS0yYrajpKQ086uyFYhKy1MyRAJ/RSrQm5l+r4QeopBCcnJSQ UsBZ6fz0E9fG8ZigOdUDQJBAgTUh0mXoQ1YMQsTWevS47J9Lfg8+Fb4WuwPm d4zJtTuzHm9IqRb+C0GfII3ghadKVW8ZGmucg6/uXGVp75Zd4z6Qr5ipcHcM nVXRxhofUDge4bc4UK/OBHsENK9b82y0jQQGY77B3+PBL6Nvcbwy5yXzTKlk AW/JzarZ5sPIGZiHq4xbZLNOmgXNmr4O+GOR9ersK7f2Do/aLIaqImdVdIK4 NHnB =6urk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Alaska Highway AK-2 tagging
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I've noticed that there is some mixed tagging of the Alaska Highway AK-2 from the Canadian border through Delta Junction to where it becomes a divided highway just south and east of Fairbanks at Eielson Air Force Base. Some of the non-divided portions are tagged as trunk while the other (majority) is tagged as primary. The definitions of these two tags are similar enough in the U.S. to almost be interchangeable. Being that this highway links many villages with Canada and the City of Fairbanks and the speed limit is 65 MPH, I would lean towards this highway being tagged as trunk. By the same definition, I'd probably argue the same for the Richardson Highway AK-4. Thoughts? R, Eric "Sparks" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail wsFcBAEBCAAGBQJd+BStAAoJEIB2q94CS7PR7d4QAMWWtHe8EB3ALRrczWY/ f3kpdRyYqP8QYVvc1vdvu+j/hAP8NdFGb+aDLx2YLMerDEu4Lt7B0BMN78vT LD5629ujwkViIpv8AQt97iWLlruEZOczn44Yhr7KIV6itzmmd9VXfXMs8Kzj gOVFdmABwgJd3S/7/tDavgsM49Bh1nvYHkzdUdBwoZ9MuCQbFpoIdj2EPc/W Z/XDDssBUcxDIzWaa8kDWB/FlizE+5v6QkgULiB4c7grEbg/7fNziisdYAWp lwAqkirEFLsYInrtc80bfkHX0pgb8AtFFZnyDyrY3ijU23Y2Qz5o1qn+4jbS PwFCgO6z771vGw3J+RCmKuhOG3fjyW//X0OmtUkAPdiSWKNsPabLlG4/FWib phl+2IDx0wlHqYITBEGRGw6pq96chIinlHzdWNmC82/fGI0IXo1Ic9/r3S2v Uzr8bwATdLl6mRhYZjAvcLg8yHKblG0PvINjwN4exAthSi+qGsoM5bYDBi8V sccUBA0pypUPWCnOVtck4EmMdIJ63b++EoKQ0DUNMGDkpaac6ErKOXDdVt97 ySbzNzfkkAyproGrwmDLeVQ8gt8aoc0vjlQUZpOoKDcuXgZ7mIhWmwn+4kLL WTYYuZn02MVoAsdfbfPB3IyNy9eqmadymFlyNL8AfJC69/0S1TAGLtQFoJjv wQlY =oEIv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Proper way to "close" a ferry route
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, September 9, 2019 11:20 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > I would also remove route=ferry tag. > > I assume here that "temporary" means > "closed for at least week or two", > with closer closure I have doubts about > mapping it in OSM. No, I suspect this might be a while longer. NC-12 for several miles along the east portion of Ocracoke island was buckled by the ocean and a bridge on the island is missing. Repairs from last year's hurricane hadn't even been completed although the roadway had been opened. I suspect this will be a closure of at least a month if not more. I'll go ahead and remove the route=ferry as well. I've also marked the roadway as being "under construction" to prevent any routing that far east although if you've made it onto the island you probably know already. Thanks, Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail wsFcBAEBCAAGBQJddnyBAAoJEIB2q94CS7PR62YQALCF17g+XZmCI6I2vhDS 9jw6LKAgbX7M/ZwbDEDoGMPYsWk9e6LiTgA9i59iTWrCFtZ3vAb4NI3zkMhf nRCcmHdjvK1tFjPt+xEEkTCMWqjiObRxCIjBY0MzfjhrSA81w/FZedDYc0Mm gp3RoRHXzeL5vFniP8F9pMkrMsKnGb3Y6ZvLD4xBFDo4ZstSwEl6t6JIZQny y86JmstpiFZi7n26pr8kGIJAduv/MbtgD4f3PrjEe142SBnjL1/iamDH58Jn 3YYNDyvF8AXSZRAEC04WyiXSk2/NgEdUi8fonTZG3046/wd/kf6hA5Sr7mxW rRpyh5gRFr1SigS017pdnBEulF+CyP2/Ko1qwL5alU24vatbyA/TdXcPKROt EqskOfG8N2hfbmmDBdJROQOMswYgem0AoEJLh/p7/ehMy5d8g4t3y4WciZdD X/0xBtUHv5nJ92IHn87HStG21dfak0G+eyLel+YHIHY7UvvUzBYVLsrIastk QGXwpoahquXTMuVNhQ1HMXKdN6NvD1WCXYqW+HeecPIwp2NrPlWdX4zf43ho iLWu5ijel/MKeX3gWu1dQfaPjOSnNMk/TJa9C8Zt1yRnqKvLyeJ2F03gdvUh VtNAGaJ/uTdhvHgU4qOBsnS0NVUd96BA29HmhmmB8+V9WVna88dIFIXu9FSf HuK0 =k6M1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Website showing the best time to survey with GPS.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, June 27, 2019 7:58 AM, Simon Poole wrote: > The answer the OP was looking for is likely https://www.gnssplanning.com/ Thank you!!! My Google-fu has been failing me lately. Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsFcBAEBCAAGBQJdFLHDAAoJEIB2q94CS7PRrtsP/3moRTHbGoIqMyQGrLQ7 3Qw4XVt7hrTmxzjaKTGK6p5hHYRR6tyhLrhA/IBL/LOORgkIp2AkcCb7eIYZ sn9vJhbhvluV8l2GyT1Tle3hVMGXfE4nj9OQOfLkkJ7jltSHy5+tFt6spQc5 nht9bANCTG76tFlBQR1gB+tUC8/0pm1KUwQQwwr0tmR4aEW90hEvkZ/Ld/8O oT8/466Ec7rj/AFI1UZ19RuTtxYhd8uPAMb3prSg4K6tFBcys8KMIFzyzbhB OTS/yldk09wRu81S6+fXwH142UHO8m0dIQXBZSNqrBqAfijPNgNrFL0Ao4nJ PI5QwQXoUOJzlLvqHKiQihLohM1RyL/f1CCpg1nWKMR1fIc1dZbx87h0tf9/ NG6VNN+iIvkVwEhY/mP/7BPUP1aXKXRiujGJ4G+lbU3xVjaQHouYRMMsoXaq 3StZJCxfQdx6dOw7Zx+dzQtBZlxic6A8PncYvVgqW45FSa2nh35vMm2a4deJ khVlt9PhXAvtADBnO77ub3XsiQpGAsAaPN/lshY9Yjv0kvp8vfGvmoNlwHgC BjXdcXsZ20puf53kzq0x3ssL47bzuyykWtcpbl79gFEEYPToB/Dil5euwNsq VZ/1GeSSqKQVrJx+KUR0yEgUuUto55rTUd6D0J32D7mC6q/4VHokVBqX5G5c ZgiS =IJeN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Website showing the best time to survey with GPS.
I use GPSr devices other than what's in my smartphone. The point is that if all the satellites are clustered directly overhead the diversity isn't great enough to give a truly accurate position on the ground. For best surveying with a GPSr, you want satellites to not only be overhead but toward the horizon (and everywhere in between) as well. Eric ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, June 27, 2019 2:15 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Note that for a typical GPS, especially GPS in smartphone I would expect that > this effects will be not really noticeable in affecting accuracy. > > Maybe except massive solar storms like > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859 > > I tried to check sources, but quick search found nothing really good, except > some things > like > https://www.utdallas.edu/news/2013/5/16-23761_Solar-Flares-May-Interrupt-GPS-Navigation-Research_article-wide.html > "If a flare is particularly large, the resulting turbulence in our upper > atmosphere > could disrupt radio signals and GPS navigation, for example." > > what seems to confirm that you need really unusual activity to have results. > > 27 Jun 2019, 00:18 by talk-us@openstreetmap.org: > >> I was told there was a website that forecasted the best times to do survey >> work with GNSS based upon diversity of satellites in the sky, solar >> activity, etc. Does anyone know what site this is? >> >> Thanks, >> Eric___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Website showing the best time to survey with GPS.
I was told there was a website that forecasted the best times to do survey work with GNSS based upon diversity of satellites in the sky, solar activity, etc. Does anyone know what site this is? Thanks, Eric___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Gated communities
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, March 20, 2019 6:38 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Should all roads inside the gated community be access=private? I wouldn't necessarily mark all the roads as private as I think that would hinder the routing engines. > What tags should be applied to (a) the main gate where visitors and > delivery services are expected to report, and (b) resident-only gates? I've mapped a neighborhood like this before and I think I got the routing to work properly by using gates at non-manned areas with access=private and something else at the guard houses with access=designated or something to that affect. I think that fits the model... Eric "Sparks" -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsFcBAEBCAAGBQJcksYxAAoJEIB2q94CS7PREZoQALxqnyFgf57KuZ8btd9G Rh/ttSnL2ut/P3JBddk++vM3qvxD0N6dAEQDF5X1mMYvYtwkjJ3JUm5WeFSL MTt3teOV1KIJWb7fk8VsysJUatz3Q3Ksty9fevG1t5W2l+9tkXn6eNzMIL5c Ztdabtgrlx/6I04IpQnPcqAjJUh48g5aQYCitfMQf3A/67/CRt0YnsYEa/79 0WmOUmtxLSDdofwOwi3g6CCma6oWiAttnrCfHLQhqbALSlM9e0+VLGICT2ma c3eV0tzE7qvv6Xw3ngos6uVwsnJ5ppnslBax+ZDyRlc5De0ka+XAep/VWJQc oU5Yd6gYj+7xiP+loFRLQoOR2gPSf1C/nPIVBKiD0tWgiEkPK/zHA8jA6C83 a+ZR+BNZ5LXQsSbHGn/4R5jyXBmRSRlsQ3UajVfcaDOteRKsvW2zNQUxQJn/ uzCPE6H1ZkuMjNzr2qT4/IT8TXc8Qyx+rZB/q0OiJfFa1QofNOmy9rsXkxzm bDdcH+swBAe6eXz1snM/hYW8HDn0aba/TPYCK5+q5B3D9ynrIH9HktPVcIs9 wbt4/+qhBe4bxihA5A2vntZyrQJeHqObiMHvN8a4Zs1AiMvzEw70JAth6uYo 0oNrFCnHC3GZrEHZzyyGK/pjKlcevupEn4NIUZvWO1T6ph3rMLiAr241eSSy xykO =y2bt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Anyone interested in fixing Pine Mountain Trail, FDR state park, GA?
I can do it. Sounds right up my alley...
Eric "Sparks"
Original Message
On Feb 6, 2019, 02:56, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Hi,
>
> DWG has received a message from someone at the "Pine Mountain Trail
> Association Board", pointing out several mis-named trails and offering
> to explain further in a telephone call ("CALL ME, not email me, not text
> me"). He's also offering to send a trail map which may be used to take
> correct names from.
>
> He's mixing up OSM and AllTrails and it is not clear whether he refers
> to particular AllTrails issues or genuine OSM issues, though with
> AllTrails using OSM data it is likely that at least some of the issues
> are OSM. He also complains about incorrect mileage shown but that is
> most likely an AllTrails issue.
>
> Would someone be interested in taking up the matter, making the phone
> call, potentially receiving a trail map and fixing what needs to be
> fixed in OSM, if anything? Then I'd forward the message. I'm not posting
> it because it contains telephone numbers and names.
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
> --
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Re: [Talk-us] Forest Routes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, November 29, 2018 3:13 PM, Kevin Broderick wrote: > Doesn't the Forest Service use FR for "Forest Road" at the reference? I'd > think that, or NFR to distinguish from state forest roads, would be the more > appropriate ref, as FS is ambiguous (it doesn't distinguish between a forest > road and a forest trail). I think the highway type would be a better way to distinguish between a roadway and a trail. Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsFcBAEBCAAQBQJcCcG4CRCAdqveAkuz0QAA4GEQALkKnwJgZC0jiku6E6kz cQEILCAHcmiZgiuPd1QaOV7Ixjw0NwN1X7lzNWViU6PYG/Jmv2hRvF7qtmA5 SFxOE+gcsIsDokHvRHNSN1k1OIHQR2CIJyxTGrf20e0HoWNO2YYesKr98HPZ hqiPAASUGFcbk2tjRwugzZGI0OE7uDRv6ppkfdwbZ/CkKBtFfjYhJ/qQpzG/ 9l1JAfIJwN4TCq1MmI3Y9RE1jFezJKy5Ii0dljV6nCT+4AxIzTlae97qc/JL b8D2WVIohNbBa7tWgWaCXAIshJoFPBnvFcSzsBK/S8Vsxwx1M5CHqe0GsaKq L7vEfpGT3+YzewITmkPbq6jAvxLxvguPzZZHvidTFCVSC+5xhXW4wJD9truZ tGjVXLEk/aHNUqyacmX1yVYJMUvRUpx8Gs30UoS+Xf6s0ZQbtXMT+FYiVihv sEsFp7Vfjk9I9vOZqPGNr20Ha1p0YDy0v3Qw7tyn/Hbbyu5evwPldBTHH4Rx xXssMVX1lOVQg7+tZVmCG2Sg6Ahb3zQJESbfC8RBTstajAHar1iqaYv07TXg GSqdbFP5cuqQStbQnOBMdB1Ojduu+qWksGyUriBbrCVo1Pc2t2dwf3v+tGTt 69zj3+/Ck5UhkCokbv2FQauU1R+hKaYVV1qGm1y31+v6tWRTaLeznt/pwx8l sHJQ =NIqb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Forest Routes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 9:49 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > I think you are right. It would be good if we can arrive at a common > prefix and document it on the wiki. 'FS' makes sense. Perhaps even a new > page dedicated to roads that are maintained directly by federal agencies > (NPS, USDA, others?) would make sense. I'd be happy to help set it up. I've noticed that some of these "roads" are showing FS, FT, and another F something when they were imported. Should all these ways use 'FS' or should they use the different prefix based upon what type of way they are (outside of the proper tagging for the way)? Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsFcBAEBCAAQBQJb/v+kCRCAdqveAkuz0QAA5hEQAIdx+eIbu5v2xtBQ7CJD 4FvUPKcr/lWhmh+wKkKiKI9uiXBcxiTgsgGWg/3YzOrBIwr6EYsgprcL5BEt Uga+MeJXEeg3UvChcUjTS77cFHC3btjJWSVkVIfvunIvtbqln7uOp8xibmgy zaHf6Xyi8mf0erIr1A55+XTHGGS0nRgM2AyHzLA3U9Y0O/8ejs1e2Dp4C/sN iCXDxOItONtx6cfg00wsqYHCKaKGfng77dORF5IF6jYkxP/tQPBOk9gCPcvW NAEE1jLMOo3A1F9pc0U3UsmHwujxwfpG3DXV2QiSsjoJ1Bmhh2vD3Q+wmTyK cb9PjCYqkQzG8K7nCIrvJddtc+za5+tWhpVX+n30gOrlOgmNyctnAF/OKrAa wi3WJKfbIFka6/T+lEulBz6XtHxMx2hH3XzOBlvT0UpShbyyxEDELMzM4gB0 SnKzwN9bvOUP2wq+9TjEemSQx0Goo2BjGuVBoWt0Dgv0Q47A8W6c6/kws+2o kn7CTE2OXzRHzi2sKcXu+OWQTNHEhxmITvDBZGnEi/gHCAyJDX4AcdEhQMnF CW0U4IcKlanEXFUbgmr+qrMI9yZsEX2uM+HZzGfx7xOqQpLihudxjgPAi+wG Y+VY+mC85i7dwqxd4o/f9cj7BpuXygN5ZZcNrDmCY1Flde1Eq/1pFYFcnZJr qilr =swxb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Maryland Six-Inch Imagery change
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 For the past few weeks I've not been able to get the Maryland Six-Inch imagery to work in JOSM. Last night I opened a ticket with MD iMAP and have found a fix. Not sure how to get this propagated into JOSM but here's the fix for anyone that is using the imagery: Instead of using WMS use WTMS (wmts:https://geodata.md.gov/imap/rest/services/Imagery/MD_SixInchImagery/MapServer/WMTS/1.0.0/WMTSCapabilities.xml). I haven't had a problem with the three-inch imagery, yet, but this may need to be changed for that as well in the future. Apparently they have seen this problem with some clients that try to cache the information after a recent ESRI update. Sparks -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsFcBAEBCAAQBQJb0fEECRCAdqveAkuz0QAAcWoQAKpnK4DEsz2FuX1ZUWbD kPcKgfIibMIeH0fr0jLrZLGYUf5+k8VOQQzZNaYqJndsqTbg0EuEXvUMtwGN OXgA9RS4tyno/mDnPuhv+Frkmxo8wTa5An4P1uhGzSV2+HonKT2at2VjkxeM qC353hdXohmAR8jRx/NffOQWcov7zlliW+vz/gu7lkv+t4L5DrlqvRpm4Ukr DIQBVbxlLSr3wqn39QEFQrqw/mWflHY+ztogmWaKWd+c9qwDVa0s52ZRv4Da NWEOSxJRq3pesrM4ZiRKrqEsv9QTt2RqqfYw8ob5Lzx02FCZBZ5VMrIRazRl HCn8tCLXtvYPor4jQzLfUJEPGUmLf3unMxMitHEbb1kYHtWHhodzNz2Lfhcm 20zjU4i6REGSdEL2Mi9dqq66RBDTuK6YAuwAC7ns6Z3wCbZk+NyYOktto3pN QkCDpLRetQ4nxwL0+b5eaxgP5GkOs4iYCn0JX1sZzyl3d3wcJsqVzO1Aij0X QU+XfwXkLn4P8ZV1FpG5d72grso+1uqSmOy+rP7b1jdzI3rPf0ZHFn++N2Zr UCKGQTBJnBTZ5fwpgr7DLr03YxGHxxaI+WtMEKVNE1kVJNFQHU8Co5YL/G4+ aE1stM//cul3Ef928VdyzrHBPwyqsDiMR5M+dXVLKvKr9Ubj8IfzJQvHuhAc kTgA =wU/t -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Reverted vandalism - Changeset 62766811
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I just noticed that three days ago "Derek Shorter"[0] decided to make it a lot easier to get around my little town (Chesapeake Beach, MD)[1] by adding several roadways as well as adding a bridge across the Chesapeake Bay. I checked and it appears that the last change this person made prior to this one was a couple of years ago. I also don't see any changes from this account since. I have reverted this person's changes[2] so hopefully all that will go back to normal soon. R, Sparks [0] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Derek%20Shorter [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62766811 [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62865156 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsFcBAEBCAAQBQJbqEx5CRCAdqveAkuz0QAAOR0P/iR7+xPRqc5BxEQZaDA1 G+7I1LV5UQSEWGzWDN8orBn+twsmZRV9I0Qi2RW07T8r5WKUl0AzV4WNCj8G A9eSvqB+5OPasf0QCUnS7BSK1nOmd64p8XSH2qALns2lHvBqrfQEk/Fh89oF zjQ2yjwOZJhTfoTBJm0p3wigTSzcmwJ9MRsLyQl6j7vLRGEJVbzVjZXLaAuR jHCx5oI/kGPGKsAIOvNsVyNnmnKsBmvGAR76hxL7SOhJLvUgKgOZBLaLHIBZ hGJBakE1ttAcqkJgXruRvplxLAFeqC8IwNnYOnR1wxV9GQv/mQbjANGp3sCb W5naAocHMNVAqQjxVWgGtNxRE3tV2tWPugEfYEaq9SEWUOvsLJx2Q8kHrNEF /oJwCCzWBL7+C0/acDJa0w7XLEKKXz5+4Sx3oC7GwU+V3pT7qVPkbUJ9J8QZ /JiaMmxX4fkM6oV7zxILqMXl0jzvRcXCzOVAIEQywxkuD3YAiBah7Su7H2LM bLqFDVirzmxkP2WsqJfYfRYgK507j9W08w52S2cAjFzg3NZZ2msWtuAKJivQ mQrcsG/49fM+jQhEaThM9xyo6gS5j1mbE92gCC/ZzfavZdqTteyPJL1SGiA+ pM0gnWhUfeEZ+S9ZmnqxUoNerp6HzaW6bMChFI1dkPvJrhiz1evGBVeCtTHd oyQY =5XX2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Evacuation Routes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I've added all Virginia hurricane evacuation routes[0]. Still working on North Carolina and I'm looking for a source for Maryland. Perhaps I should be looking for South Carolina sooner... [0] https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/BKj Sparks -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsFcBAEBCAAQBQJbk7y+CRCAdqveAkuz0QAAxzoQAJgRTLd10ka/FcHTe21l D04ChqzetHFWqbNLW32PmOamJPKqk+CUOaGKD7uRYtN9V8+n9lcM3DlUq6u9 bK/LHVhLvA8BcUs3lNAkLcPEEdR6aQDdqSoZr1MGGnrleFcvCvwwB8KFb/rb AgFtQlAT/O/r3kYXnpCHPhtfYt9s7ngx7Q2oT7TyiLXQdZspyhaDkfHE7096 spIDfq2FigxnXcxs2kZlMnpT/rSFXqKdoHmTcxZV6s0zQoHhUs290pj8hVTd boALDNeJrYV2qlQi/Z+SPdG0Tg/Gj0fTTjblxtE44KdB44DMqES7MhOwE2b5 UvD1ZwCyult+8w9M0CTBMTvsISz6Z+YSp1f0zGfYOSchNaoN/FGeFgx1fW4s eD2vqB1NA1Xleh7FRDv/gbwBRdjDXoAvDZZWZQBREx3juc5JbeA7Dv4YvWSq j4fOaGuyFMkwl9MugCXEXleAH8zS2rQnCvqz0tz6uhZmUm0+Aq0riTyjTBVS ZI5/9lNZFlZIXztjheAAl7ilSC6FalRgMvd58cFjG2qHQkMu9Id3I+U2op/e Ap7X1IkLYULxlrdPQ22Nhdo7aGMNmVROa8A24NjytI+SPLbnd2ZgQIy2+cwm FwrW6tSEKqvScdOGzRAB4B58/FpjKP4G3wjybYxai/pZ485GtZu7V0XPaA3s 1tBo =m93j -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Evacuation Routes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 -‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On September 6, 2018 9:51 AM, James Umbanhowar wrote: > Would this fit the route relation model better if we used the following > tagging scheme > > route:road > network:MD:hurricane > > or something similar? When this was discussed on the tagging list scheme wasn't brought up. I was trying to keep it as generic as possible to keep it simple, to make it flexible for all kinds of evacuation routes (not just hurricanes), and to make it work globally. What would be the benefit of using a network be? Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsFcBAEBCAAQBQJbkTcRCRCAdqveAkuz0QAArHYP/2Xb4ROaEv9ueUSGT3Sw TQHFqyDVXR8ZAYOC7C9ttOwWFQQU0DuRF8cYpENDsnPduzjVgWdrkpQslsHP arUcqMU9tx+RoMIJSemnaCGrEWND+mFas0r4c+nJqLlVWwfCTHpEVDSo5jum 6HhsxSS62sUL2rHdaMyzPZN79Nbcruof8Z3pRvbie1x0mGv9cGr9DVC7OFPG CguGOuXgd2cxqYgiv1IoAwh6djBPIpe52Hxoq6RHmdxPg1LnUg37Xi7beDeG HkmCoOgNpUxXehgoPiYor33gdj2PTzrS7mwfYqisL5G+0/dIZ81U/I3yEOMZ HDWVDoWceqhbto9TT+EHj6U/taNCXLBZE9EYcRmt/lQfSW1M25+pywbVqcZ7 wBplc0wqEUlEugqP8mPaAmtXuBKk/PFiz7wGpN3/ZCD+243PnP67DzKIkQH+ JHa93ez92wkOe81sfk66dh8Qf2M+wWFtxvhFCpgRKW2BT4WDPuKGG+pi78th MnI35Dh9OK3qeUUJgfQEKXfqXYPMQKeIN7EZC9WwyeaisJXZ+gyRtw/pPLJF gc9sB9SOsfI3U3RwjxN8kTTsWsDKIQszgKWo8iebGrJEQm+im6UP54myjM14 MvN0N+1P9Guw/1TtxwxXk/SKZYrewRmqG+9+4Ow0lnkcZfdJUQUlHS5uLlKB yM8r =fIqM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Evacuation Routes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On September 6, 2018 6:38 AM, Rihards wrote: > That page says "Cycle routes or bicycle route are named or numbered or > otherwise signed routes. May go along roads, trails or dedicated cycle > paths." > > Is that correct? *sigh* That was a copy/paste error. I've fixed that, or at least started to fix that. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsFcBAEBCAAQBQJbkRsXCRCAdqveAkuz0QAAlJ4QALEGqEhHdvfosxSPK93K wjZHSHaTWCZrlGLx6bNmQJtiuSKWiTlt8eVmilws5FnnS9SUlRdsGX6SxVlb q8JfxqedQa/EEgwgArkxcBvYF8oDcpG1CiRrRJxq7WDdbcLlbSfy7AhIZ25K ED57YWyXzNH7L6szdqaQrD1AEONWFbd4BAqzgw/Ul0xhdbWU2Ty5RYBtL/8P yp9DfVKQdhXBQAaG9k0JuhEsTmj7WrtSYsSyCsmSj4P5JXr1ZwtmZqh8AeCM ycRH9sWE5LfgK3HiABx+I2ozlgNCQeDS/vE/FL/HLYd/+iZ8GFk22Lto2sFa geijeacbkowRGvFe3o+v1ThqWLKPe+3Xvt0W/0qzZxlsAxGLzCSUIVAMGwyV yb2gTNUGRN7mLKX2I4ZG1Mn6K86sP1EquOYwELB0yGLa7jl6D2zn8c/5CBZl dDjurBtnE6ldN/pQfsgLWVbgr6doPvaejX5VeN8OdEbyYDBWODqbppPpSrZ8 2p7Ql0nYcMzJBrD2ndsFVI/0/QG0KjyHqVpEdzmcfqEP4dSFJWVw7Yy+hij1 dmkfO1sUfdeNSM1lbvyFcMLQk//iIRmtiHLFaGeWqDr+hHTEJcPEt7Hc/Aw1 9jm1swiWTvTg4fg2Jrm4QMOjKW1M9k11yGkYUqORQGj0gTYwIe7MQXza1gi/ vhYz =y1Pi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Evacuation Routes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On September 5, 2018 7:24 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > Are you tagging the routes consistently with role=forward or > role=reverse? An evacuation route is essentially a one-way item > (presumably, return after the crisis can be by any open road), and it > would be good to render them with arrows. Yes! These routes are direction-specific so those roles are important. That should be a mandatory field and is on the wiki page. Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsFcBAEBCAAQBQJbkGtECRCAdqveAkuz0QAAbRAP/3si+7jCG6M4mVdDvwS6 0fKdreNslTVp3H/07Fbi8RNN7RKRR503t2qmlGNzGdbtG1ywKg9ME+JI6LZv bwDRqE7sSpxI+fxbMgEjDgF5c2Mz8CJML1Lb9LVJVBia6/gNB9oAXMkolbNO GeFyQXMZuuZVzt8J95GqoB9iBvKpD8h0C9uUweFvjvUeDNC8OSKYjr/mgFMR JslsHo8n12IisgQys1ywlS49257Azy+O8//QNaWElSsj76fieTy7QWo9iTFz VAVUL6WmOIA0naLtY0GduAlR2+VRNGZ0aUt5wga/McYX61k40v9T/pq8cEFL kwtMnyzXgJQxVr+PdocZO8zXarX4WEH2cc4CKmPeFv6udpXEBiQ33etf6ZTG qwaI5qyvQHnUperVP+Cbn7gf9XH3p77XhupCSU2HZlNl14dpENWyMC0idaLn K21S6qmCX+BaNv+u03EmCKfn1cgEHiwnpMJ8gwCUy+Y92W78yLBNOBvQs4Sx aMgFKN3Hkvv7PFgY5+9et0RXS8Odv5HHkdCRcmsKHmqo1o2SSmdkzdXzDJOZ IUOFlLU0IeM5CoEuvOzzX+z5F+DARZLlXpCB30HlWAWEz4PZJ9CfhBGzC7T8 5wm3vEO4k2sBGMfauyhohqY+AEHzi5hYrDDRliwCB0zdoVsukYA8eL7P0S9G Iy8u =Qm+M -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Evacuation Routes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 I recently finished an update to the evacuation routes feature[0], turning it into a relation (route). I'll be working on adding hurricane evacuation routes to areas I'm familiar with (Maryland, Hampton Roads area of Virginia, and Northeast North Carolina) but I encourage others to add evacuation routes to their local areas as well. Currently, JOSM doesn't recognize this route type and I don't think they're being rendered on any third-party software but I'm hoping once enough data is in the system we'll be able to show a reason for rendering such information. Thanks, Sparks [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Devacuation -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail Comment: https://protonmail.com wsFcBAEBCAAQBQJbkGFsCRCAdqveAkuz0QAAxCcP/3+1rn4ocA6BuiLKAkav WTWbphhLscfu5JccbQuo4xiPkTebtYBxHlM1FCq6evAhww25kznWTF4G7U81 OOGhVBqKMuih+O6h2BFane8gLrNIXEjxSx/KoVx8PwlwhySzwGQSQyi6FsLD 7CvTsNhxOBQQCT+btFgyrquvm11RZBXwqBBR6M9MDOJUiCdSaeQO23x8Df7U LAeRB6wZ8NJ4lwRUqIB0lbji7TLfjTglO3APgrTh1aTY/e66VHqrO7rJcS7g 1bB2xew49nIp4vziX6RbXeX9Y+RA0pp6V+P6h+PdOBLpwbEMMBkwPETW+msK 5hymqrkX053XXSecdOrn0wdo+nfkOPJFdtAciabMKpo/fZCNMXCdMzrOWFOC AuyYJaHdQD2j8XxIXvLLiBkmgXX0/bibrQlXHhbhKlTXWoemAZ+6D7HFpvfy caFO6hCHKxREbWY6oNPj4saRaGpjUdgK+en8bBOE39JsTZdeC994xpn58uPw l7hkw7GTN7V7mNlBsNzF/7Wrf1ZnqSG9gzvIpXWGb1kNEXQZk3LQJjFgj62e VVAsPlERLDS2dJHlsJzbpfgP8OhT6WWjRPpXlsw2qdmrrxp4Czn7lr+y/FBT Mbf0hG5At3d6FDLUjZUNTkBz7dY4quRHPSBQ8I3tBfMtc4rlgit45KiAWJJT sEee =csxh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Mapping Southern Maryland: A new local group
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings, A couple of weeks ago I reached out to many of the OSM account holders that are in my area hoping they would be interested in creating a local community for mapping southern Maryland. I found a few victims and so we're pressing on! I'm still working on all the logistics (website, listserv, etc) but I have created a wiki page[0] where I'll start collecting information regarding the community. If you'd like to join us please put your name on the wiki page. I hope to have all the infrastructure figured out over the coming days. [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapping_Southern_Maryland Thanks! - --Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVjgMeAAoJED4nr8JXHVrFKPUIAIdT/nwIpJn7+BjFVEbVlJzn aRNXXyIlS+hKeAW46bLNGO9aDALhWfGYjMf7wYxmpadkz2Km1mCrmzSjBHZu/KNo GHhZFqyR2tSH4rgAKeYT2remk8h5FsDxqHltDX1XloQ7MftWIdsQTvsJRE23jV7W K5vdd1YavuWUoHBr3CS6zVlez72DAb/Q2HasZnyieEPcMRzBr9tQvyQesNmGDkgG h3Aliiq+/jsKR+Vfnf/PaFxSmTkd5V8FpJMzedJXYJmvWStAkBIvN5ui0Vk93CS7 GrqDK4g/zg3HbwDpm/pEAISnPls4dT5os3F6JopBIy38dhJJLGFcFs1TuRA0FxM= =mkEi -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] USA Rail: Calling all OSM railfans! (especially in California)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 12:56:29PM -0700, stevea wrote: Especially if you are a railfan in California, please have a look. Or, if you are a rail enthusiast in another state, and want a template with which to jump-start better OSM rail completion in your neck of the woods, please copy what you might from this wiki. It is a little bit stubby (some missing elements in the tables...) but it should provide a good launch pad for either a California railfan or an OSM mapper who wants to ignite a similar venture in another state. Wow, this is starting to look good. I mapped the tracks around Eastern North Carolina but there is still much to do. I wonder if anyone has any information on Norfolk Southern or CSXT lines in North Carolina, Virginia, and Maryland that I could use to help determine main lines versus branch lines. - --Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJVCiJDAAoJED4nr8JXHVrFzQwIALu0pIPA1E6vgqOQMv4JqjFj SBYR4xcwWiwMtLXl76/0B0+/Xf6TMpTkCSvNNU+BY/ics/bxdUO2nBLQXQHM1M5N lpD3iRsmoEU6KhiDS27s4jBVAv9+Efy4PkBKBzpaFGEadk39zL4R1BW7rufeKQdh 8a/XMHc6GnQZjFKZDCt5QVBOjbxPK8CW9cEdC8If9/sfiN+HAA2uxFH8O8b3JmgE yN45VSgUZPbQZIknI4DCJ0SHulunVQEatgpf42KronJfNhTsDGUUfyP7dZGvH+kr dUyC245RL04Uj3g76SuA1xgTyvWw3fnCYrk718Mb8hMQ2WVQrOao8kBCtNF5QTk= =Fg/F -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] The to way does not start or end at a via node.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 06:30:37PM +, Harald Kliems wrote: I think I figured it out. It's the no-U-turn relations (4286903 and 4286904). Instead of having the same way as from and to, they reference a segment further down the road as their to. Probably that was caused by someone splitting the ways near the intersection. I haven't made any edits, as I can't be sure where the no-U-turn relations should be. But let me know if you need help fixing it, Eric. I'm not sure I understand. Please go ahead and fix it if you can see what's happening there. FWIW, any changes there were likely made by me using iD. --Eric ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] The to way does not start or end at a via node.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:52:23AM -0500, Richard Welty wrote: On 1/30/15 10:45 AM, Eric Christensen wrote: I'm having a problem that I can't seem to figure out. At Node 2899149410 (http://osm.org/go/ZZeAdq4EI--?m=) I get an error in JOSM that says The to way does not start or end at a via node.. This is breaking routing. I'm not sure how to fix this. I see the same problem at the same intersection only on Grovers Turn Road. Can someone help me fix these problems? i just took a look; the JOSM turn restriction plugin is reporting no issues. i'm using JOSM 7906, with appropriate plugins. what version are you running? I just shut that machine down as I'm running out the door for a few hours. This wasn't a turn restriction error but a general validation error in JOSM. If you aren't seeing this I'll have to get back to you later today. --Eric ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] fun with tagging: it's a raceway and an airstrip
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 08:41:31AM -0500, Richard Welty wrote: not sure how to tag this one. Inde Motorsports Ranch is near Willcox, AZ, a multi configuration road course complex, plus the straight away on the south edge of the complex doubles as a private airstrip: Could you just create an overlapping area where the airstrip is and tag it appropriately? - --Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJUt87LAAoJEB/kgVGp2CYvgucL+gPvBh6r6JlLaEVaJs/rzoif LIINVCdaorxCzKJvrcF/YEpPH0s13kh0OK1p+uzhgBbUVE18QgHgBTJUZtgOxIsi jYLN0ddmsAeiPfJS7ujgYDpgdJ/uz2KcI+Sxr8mBSh0SkB7Q71R62CjsduxXl5dF ongxZXes1ep+IKem1XhOmqFG+aUY/3u4JcMrXbRxy5LDPj+vZGjvFg2XPDi9UBOq rHUjxmLANTXOJSzOwhHkCehlt8W74LA27eKQhbDn1AyEDAbXxyeag5wGD2WOq9YB KZ/WuLlf5YxwkEx7M1UXfyrullhGI/2px2G7UraJlnqvQEHKzR/40fEau/NxnuWR NVp6VtJ6rY2ziFZOwJsecs9nHY7dQFEtOsbP6INn+OABk0T3ztY9PyIOCPKq2CQn 9ONhPEaLJ+WlurBvkPA3G7bo7uvQTqx2RatAgMdNKNp+uOZMexsf7KOtvUXP0GAh xehWTCfoxC27/dnyPprw35htu/EE1Bmn8bF3vCb7dQ== =9ZFO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Rail westerly
Steve, Thanks for sparking my interest here. I had started working on some rail segments around my home town of Plymouth, NC, but after reading your original message I went back and completed those and verified other segments along the branch including those around the state port in Morehead City. I hope to complete all the tracks in Eastern North Carolina although I know there's at least one other person who has been working on these lines in the past. I'd enjoy hearing more about your work out in California. --Eric ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] changeset 25081346 spanning contiguous United States
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 09:33:08AM -0700, Peter Dobratz wrote: After checking a few of the objects, it looks like this change removed shop=copyshop and added amenity=post_office. I don't necessarily disagree with this change. In my mind I had been reserving post_office for entities controlled by the government-run United States Postal Service, but after reading the wiki I see that private companies can be also designated as post_office, and the UPS Store certainly fulfills many of the same functions as government-run post offices. Isn't there a way to specify the provider of the service (outside the name?)? I've run into this while marking post_box for UPS and FedEx drop points that I run across. - --Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJUMsaoAAoJEB/kgVGp2CYvjSQL/2VDId1i/uM+nYIpBs+YREec 0KQ7nI47FDUGKJhsyGt6Dnokn8Rj+syZ53/1zHb2WMeS2gZdl9Xw7SghwuAMQwhG GzL+y7OkT8pk/AQozj9GIitGmu4xX605tSg6oJDb4V85ey7tMcWSqo7bLSuKLiMs r2dus0I7AVdOOyV+muwzxM55NQd+n6o9YGSl2d98VtjScJdXgITQH1KDA1XTOrZj 5kVZ2yC7TWEaiKSDbRq3v6nr4e8oUr2mnmqIz9v9/RFPA5A17gbZPFsV2+h5aPMf /ueclSLU3+Zf5f+JPmS6L0bSRvtTldTCdYmjon8K0uRkUyQ54xEMwWL2/II56zle VyAr0QsNeR2+F95NfYfoNXQgnZX4DrgNJAIeWGWhwoUINyJHnB2VU82sxfemUHDz vX+onWp/pnqRX5j3AnS7kWaCvkWBkjcsFgvn2+E/opsYJvAUsVL7kGz7VsBhHe4z jeT5iaQ04UhX7g4Nhl/oXywgW8zfkxVZyATfLLwHuw== =86GP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapping Space Ports
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 04:53:57PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2014-07-14 19:38 GMT+02:00 Eric H. Christensen e...@christensenplace.us: I've not figured out the proper way to map a launch pad. the whole complex could get some spaceport tag, e.g. man_made=spaceport or aeroway=spaceport or amenity=... The launch_pad could be tagged aeroway=launch_pad There seem to be 7 aeroway=launchpad in the current db: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/aeroway#values I hadn't thought to look there. The wiki doesn't seem to have anything regarding spaceports. I'll start marking things up. Thanks, Eric ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapping Space Ports
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 06:25:58PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2014-07-15 18:01 GMT+02:00 Eric H. Christensen e...@christensenplace.us: The launch_pad could be tagged aeroway=launch_pad There seem to be 7 aeroway=launchpad in the current db: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/aeroway#values I hadn't thought to look there. The wiki doesn't seem to have anything regarding spaceports. I'll start marking things up. If you want to spare some time it would be nice to start documenting this in the wiki (proposal et al). Btw., I'd prefer your suggestion launch_pad (1x) and not the scarsely used launchpad (7x), as the latter is a brand and the former is the correct spelling for the rocket take off thingy. Like https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Space_ports? Yes, it needs more work. I'll try to add more later today. - --Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJTxXFFAAoJEB/kgVGp2CYvmnsL/R5Nft1cMTggP+LUfPwdOJNm W1cC7R3btfIYWebOZ2apwzEfNg6vkI3EVB/6z7Hwva5HW/VFQuG20zkax1HatzJr lMXtTNf35Sw4CoPeUZT2GQm1o1O5sK8HmQrWSMEXxoSfMcWQIoJV7Sz4Sp1p/B0t 9oUysDHkhShNIYEdSN7n54delA0W2sh1yb/H2KQLLGlbmepvY1zh6K5vb7pVVzeg 0qSifqUe6Z2OsrTr3AF7+aYP6p1dsC/FWDSSk9mrT5bFdZa6wKstbAmq/ASP1M1k WvTs8HeXdEgIBXJbscA2WlEsUzzG3XAT+PDrpLvra7NZDSeubuVcwxxnAdcNOfw7 kAFT1cZNsWavGw9IhmdXoLpOl7qaY1ap1WLx1q43pDpxt2zh/lUJZ2ud69DKI/Om JgCWwvC3dPmGrHefmUyeDGS7EevJebV/ZKio914sWL3JWA1Pq+UnQWSuofgZchBE HfePBWjRF3lvFH+jMXGsszk93CKq/KH0tbkV07s8MA== =Ee9s -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Mapping Space Ports
I've been cleaning up the NASA Wallops Island facility roadways and buildings. There has been a lot of construction there over the past few years. With that said, I've not figured out the proper way to map a launch pad. We've got plenty of aeronautical tags (runways, aprons, etc) but none for rockets. Anyone know of a good way to map those? Thanks, Eric pgptDxwNCbc9g.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Importing parks and schools for Anne Arundel County MD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 08:54:09PM -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote: If there are no other objections or input (I haven't heard any new input since last Friday) then I'll start uploading these polygons (manually using JOSM) later this weekend. Any duplicate areas or POI will be merged or will be left alone if the data looks to be of better quality. Last weekend I was able to import most (all but one) polygon in my file (the BA Trail poly). I did find in several places what looked to be a past import of the same data and in those cases I generally left what was there. Right now the only thing that is left is the BA Trail, which looks like a tricky import, and the multi-polygon import which I haven't really looked at. I hope to get those tasks completed in the near future (or obtain some help). - --Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJTmmWVAAoJEB/kgVGp2CYvmAoL/Rgd7Ug1TNrH/YXjBLfs1twJ GLZ5BoqgUwM2WbuYHY1mezTMtM9u8XpNtGWjY3V8zcwLcSx5Duv9KwlhCzaYxNcr IC11cQE8zoY2BwNLQOxcizIgx5Yk1XX/RW/j7gu2XORECZrCwnTQiHkOmEXfmu29 e0G58CqtGKYT7o2QgfRer8/M75Upsv5w94isdXrHQufTLUwusbBWY3IMObuegUJe Wf6Ma/PId2FZagNpesVH/nNHuUeuqSltvmS5DdvF4C5yVyUDQ/UmqlJGPY5CYbGN fJPGI4xmbc13fk1yCbF3ka41Kn4GCCCXeM0/eY5xJ+t+NTm/VzqiSg/08eEXSNY4 GftedOw7DGcecJRsuK4yePbuGkaI7rlKYU+KQTAG3piYcViy0Hz7u5tP67XM7EdG F25c+uwaG2dop8ZySI5/8WQq8tGpbMgwuxw7i6SOCoaa75lLkfxuhk9xfMR5sPaZ zxnXiMPmr0f78wiBZVASGln6qqvizotmJDSnNGKx8A== =V9WD -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Importing parks and schools for Anne Arundel County MD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:12:02PM -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 05:17:59PM -0800, Paul Norman wrote: You'll need to develop a translation for the shapefiles that converts shapefile attributes to OSM tags, for use with ogr2osm or shp2osm.jar. This is moderately technical. I used JOSM to import the shapefiles and turn them into .osm files. I went through and removed attributes that didn't make sense (which would be almost all of them) and added ones that did. Everything appears to have a name and is either a school or a park (and contains appropriate attributes for that). When you've done that, post the .osm file somewhere and send a link to the imports@ list for review. I ended up splitting the data into two files. The first[0] contains simple polygons that outline the plots of land and was somewhat easy to get fixed. The second[1] contains all the multi-polygon shapes that I didn't want to deal with just yet. There are only a handful of these areas so I'm not overly worried about them just yet. Everything is sitting up on github[2] at the moment and are available for anyone to take a look at. I'd appreciate feedback on this. [0] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mappingdc/Anne-Arundel-imports/master/AA_parks.osm [1] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mappingdc/Anne-Arundel-imports/master/AA_parks_multipolygons.osm [2] https://github.com/mappingdc/Anne-Arundel-imports Earlier today I opened my data file and did a simplify on all the polygons. That really trimmed down the number of points. I did a couple spot checks to see if this adversely affected the accuracy of the data and I didn't see anything that really stood out as being problematic. If there are no other objections or input (I haven't heard any new input since last Friday) then I'll start uploading these polygons (manually using JOSM) later this weekend. Any duplicate areas or POI will be merged or will be left alone if the data looks to be of better quality. Thanks for everyone's input. - --Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJTjm4tAAoJEB/kgVGp2CYvgJ0L/3oMZWQVpsaxXEI4ol/TUtqD CMbWNobmE0qsYRzuoNrE/VdwjTFfQB1DMySpJCWX4z4MsMhQGLfA3Ju0nl4daHSc cNQxSjv5+EXZbZshmu4fDchE+Skk5LYXDTkgFapukspovg78stlHq4iEG+j468Bb laNrhX2DWsEH1MV0fYHaCr9PFzAipYsn8qRHHwa8C5NCJi5IvFLNcD2fLovJr3Ng Wwb1C3hTLslouK+w+1zKO/Z/8smJvmqBF5sB3BGWJuI+YzOtupyxgPiNz7hL+UFu LNdzZ0btIW+lQA9VfSi9tZyS3KNgqUex3/NO1vCxaFr9qb2mwvtT0954jwR1Itsw WKtE6fadLtLS4AbuP3HxC36r2yEn91Q6qNpo83ZG35GFy6C43ccjCpUcr/QdSnyW 6+AQfe4WTUecHjVMFyt+WKUDmbJLqxKkfJgpeoNXsglGCyt9AiZ+8hooUVSLyw1R dWP5JYAUt9V4l7tgPKKtNYwfIylkYmKn2nVJImVjfw== =6F1N -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Importing parks and schools for Anne Arundel County MD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 12:52:30AM -0700, Gregory Arenius wrote: I wouldn't import the data per say, as in uploading the .osm file you have. I would download the current OSM data for the area covered. Then, in the import file I would check each polygon, one at a time, for duplicates and boundaries that are overdigitized for OSM. If the polygon needs to be simplified, JOSM has a simplify way tool (Shift + Y) that does the job handily. If the park or school is already in OSM I would use my judgement. If it was put in manually by another mapper I would leave it alone. If it is a GNIS point, delete the GNIS point, since your data is better than the GNIS points from what I can see. Then, copy it over from the import layer to the OSM layer, and delete if from the import layer. ... Yes, completely agree. This will allow me to individually compare what's currently there and allow me to merge or otherwise clean up what's there. The only other thing that stuck out to me about the data was the B A trail. You have a polygon for the trail which is awesome but I would also add in a properly tagged linear way. It will make it possible for routers to use it as well as rendering properly. Yeah, the BA trail should be interesting. The outline only covers the property around the trail and not the trail itself. Maybe a ground truth track would be a good reward for myself for getting this other work complete... :) - --Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJTiJHaAAoJEB/kgVGp2CYvqRcL/38trqq2NOx41VpjF5MiPy3S FflzloPhCvdOX/FKNJ0HaOJOijtBC0sUKabxKpki/60gHElrvO8C8F1JfAcGGKeu CTviDqgLgElk66Kd7yUWyQTDn19Kzw9qmrSx9wC/+sOwlHS0w8+PoCG4zk9dQbRT OP1nc4VJ5CgRwcAVsLiFWB/Rxy4XQmgkS4KHxRPt1b9806/+RxH743cQZispkRl8 jmG6qZKhLSEY/CaviwlxSPfgzg/9UWZj4gx/DGy7dVUjOMUorXK2yvgJ4LyDhxD0 RrA/jgS7O4NA9re7PDhLm6qZmnJYZJPlH69bu+hTGwFw/wlx6vncjf3OfqevjZxC hXhQEeRydzW49LlybcaktIwr4rNIeSHI0N4CbHE9KfeK/ghpTG4vD3XgopvH4H/s tdjqERsS2TtN3WhWDP+EDw2wx/WmLB19bjiGtrCrVFIg73Incl84cXb81b2Hmk/C HawyNdnvS+JfL3xTnk98JvPwwrrumjhTtDNMwjao+A== =92rk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Importing parks and schools for Anne Arundel County MD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 05:17:59PM -0800, Paul Norman wrote: You'll need to develop a translation for the shapefiles that converts shapefile attributes to OSM tags, for use with ogr2osm or shp2osm.jar. This is moderately technical. I used JOSM to import the shapefiles and turn them into .osm files. I went through and removed attributes that didn't make sense (which would be almost all of them) and added ones that did. Everything appears to have a name and is either a school or a park (and contains appropriate attributes for that). When you've done that, post the .osm file somewhere and send a link to the imports@ list for review. I ended up splitting the data into two files. The first[0] contains simple polygons that outline the plots of land and was somewhat easy to get fixed. The second[1] contains all the multi-polygon shapes that I didn't want to deal with just yet. There are only a handful of these areas so I'm not overly worried about them just yet. Everything is sitting up on github[2] at the moment and are available for anyone to take a look at. I'd appreciate feedback on this. [0] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mappingdc/Anne-Arundel-imports/master/AA_parks.osm [1] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mappingdc/Anne-Arundel-imports/master/AA_parks_multipolygons.osm [2] https://github.com/mappingdc/Anne-Arundel-imports Thanks! - --Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJTh+jvAAoJEB/kgVGp2CYvX3UL/3qbsCRXZKwQkHifSIl5PMis r9UKhLaGxnOWZtfPExzWMdQ4cCtKbqoW9yqU6tlJ8eYBmnjuwG1Yc+kTHVOL4unt Q+9/7tJpp921e2hhIQiqODV7QAlPncgYuD9KBUVt8cG5sW3cFi8pNmg75UYg/O55 Mm3ZzX2rTl+mIq5kJU7ddpu7jb7vNqZMrwyYYSbDRhqzJI/lYNyDKJxLpDHAwJ7/ RIENJQhoCoaaYWk5DTr0TZIvYJAGGBX6P0La45YimzvsO1k0ud/BkeRYYeTKvyeP hGCmpl3d02kSHf8+7tKlJj7BLU/80Cwkrp9dHWsGswczzupJLr1MjO5Vub7WsN8a lVvGoQp0JMeGsCddzrw/C6cAQg+/sM1LD2wyl8jSxB+6bMdwuqllxrrKq8mCGpPi Jddu9eKUKQu8ClarScEsKEIdi9Q9+7QhN6LmRo4DJ0EznaljQdV8sUfV8cRFoSrG 3+x/mjZZREO3MbaYK/SxN7I3Urbq9fafzCh2MRN/6A== =lFBs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Sidewalks as footpaths
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 06:43:31PM -0400, Dale Puch wrote: Personally, I like to treat most sidewalks that are close to and basically parallel the same as attached ones. IE. both of Martijn's examples tagged as part of the roadway way. I would save the separate footpath highways for when it isn't a typical sidewalk. I've seen in the wiki where one can add 'sidewalk=right|left|both|none' to a highway. I don't know if routing software looks at that or not. If so, one could attach that to roadways where the sidewalks are next to it and then manually map sidewalks as footways if they diverge from the roadway. Just a thought. I've mapped sidewalks both ways so I'm not sure which way is the correct way. --Eric pgpAeZ0ESFAw7.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Importing building data for Anne Arundel County MD
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 05:17:59PM -0800, Paul Norman wrote: I'm also investigating house/building numbers to properly address the county as well. I would suggest handling the building outlines separately, and at the least waiting until you know if you'll be getting addresses before handling buildings. I haven't had a chance to work on this as of recent but figured I'd follow up on this piece of the puzzle. The GIS department doesn't own the address data but referred me to the county police who does. They are not willing to share this information and only allow other governmental agencies to have this information so it doesn't look like that part will be happening. --Eric pgpHBju9QRqS9.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Turns on bidirectional highways
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 09:42:36PM -0500, Richard Welty wrote: On 12/15/13 9:23 PM, Eric H. Christensen wrote: On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 07:36:40PM -0500, Richard Welty wrote: 3) you can use a way as a via, not just a node. Not sure what you mean by that. Can you point to an example, please? consider a u-turn on a motorway with a no u-turn sign posted and maybe an emergency vehicles only sign. you need a no u-turn restriction, but the connecting segment of road is typically a way with 2 nodes (one node on each of the motorway ways.) so you 1) split each of the motorway ways at this node, and set up 2 no u-turn restrictions, with the via element being the short 2-node way between the motorway ways. Okay, that makes sense. you could use this elsewhere, although i think for your example it's not really necessary, an only-left-turn restriction where the left leg of Riva meets West is probably sufficient. I went in and made changes that appear, according to GraphHopper, to route correctly now. Thanks, Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJSrya5AAoJEB/kgVGp2CYvGnML/0A+gWsZpouJHcXaaQSFDeYM 3d6iUKdPuB0QQTbEUXRsNMJuAZUaYn24jv3PapVGhEx+cgBHmDG3b4xbdb5da7yW KpsTyiVg7GfYcciEx083iWFw85zsPLpOix/lbeoWjeyRAG0qZKsD97aF55ygqc5u dPkN5tYeAoX7rAKcCZU0bCQCMI58xZX1wNbj2VLYCf5Kgv1nCpiBOamSwTdtoM4t uvXaKhRMJtgU1x8XQze1cFYTcy1CoE6gJZKX7Fy3rNRRNef1Xs4Zll/bnLb2ULMW rS2ikyfOdyCkvtbPXyHUMHY/Rtgqekze4Hq6VMEH54kU3Vg/NQ4VzNH10eQhj0t/ SuJOkm2emkb2zSIYj6uf02HtEk7tNf9NJ91AKCZbtQxtbV7iuPsNQUdjURJYLSX7 pAfDuHWvmmWgylArxTvSWfSqG2mWAraTYCuDPTa8IULk4kHnjf3ErGG4vKMDqTPC mTkUdtr302rjLD6luloQUTx4M+1vyKIJDA00xWiGnA== =8o/g -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Turns on bidirectional highways
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I've been searching for some documentation to explain an intersection that has several turn restrictions that need to be mapped for routing to work properly. The intersection in question is where Riva Road intersects with West Street[0]. Traffic flowing towards West Street need to make an early decision (at the first split) as to whether they are going left or right at West Road. I've been able to add turn restrictions on the right-most intersection showing two lanes turning only right. I'm trying to figure out how to show the bottom intersection but with it being bidirectional I'm not sure how to do so. Any help? [0] http://osm.org/go/ZZeXCRcZa?way=62151435 Thanks, Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJSrhCkAAoJEB/kgVGp2CYvta4L+QFgj1vJ/M7+EKHrCneHvttc 075GoomqZnAU6xMAqiY7dIWD22EfFRt4TAhhglTN9y96DwG0pAiWQAGdEqTSiTbn oX4qtbfU7fNx3ZkVDJFyOEpaD7QQqDlFokcPINCJeAkEnd7r1Cb/T8hCNCL2epnt wL2nyiHQQKTngLb5TRpxq/i0ppyUgDcse+cBORjbW5orco6BYh0aCymvGsT6If1q Ja8iQxcNIC7knO36Svs9hHK0r+7gz1EUTQAzsMy3g5tSxrZ62gn2CbnE4uKSa5V3 KLCkGTvvVAc4reNl66qTedLv0j42fkktVwU0mF9RPg0Itc8f0b34wg8YPiJV6Gx5 9r6ruhxnuRyPDI3M3EqC/KI16H5ML1HA+itoCYOOLuZzDJ9Zu1GPhMESSxJFO6Xw +5KoiP/rFaYaAILFVgDnC3/r4Bmv10xSTc9xVUA9Tu1+wG+a8UPjWzijsxVM98dG ysVsrJkvXImxa303+yZ6kB8X9rKZdZqkhZJWACyyGg== =O45k -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Turns on bidirectional highways
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 07:36:40PM -0500, Richard Welty wrote: On 12/15/13 3:27 PM, Eric H. Christensen wrote: I've been searching for some documentation to explain an intersection that has several turn restrictions that need to be mapped for routing to work properly. The intersection in question is where Riva Road intersects with West Street[0]. Traffic flowing towards West Street need to make an early decision (at the first split) as to whether they are going left or right at West Road. I've been able to add turn restrictions on the right-most intersection showing two lanes turning only right. I'm trying to figure out how to show the bottom intersection but with it being bidirectional I'm not sure how to do so. Any help? i don't clearly understand what restriction is troubling you, but be aware that I guess I was just trying for a simple, elegant solution that wouldn't cause the source to look... horrible. I suspect that doesn't exist here, though. 1) there's no problem splitting ways if it facilitates adding a turn restriction Okay, I'll probably end up doing that, then. 2) you have some latitude as to how you place the restriction as routers will have some look ahead. placing a left turn restriction on the left side where Riva meets West may be sufficient guidance for routers 3) you can use a way as a via, not just a node. Not sure what you mean by that. Can you point to an example, please? Thanks, Eric -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJSrmQTAAoJEB/kgVGp2CYvIBAL/iu4VNoh5SGBh1vIRuBnCLRd CKvMr3TMgnqmfr5K08PBUx/h5au+te6KkVM0u9inYLRj/Br3z0tYgm0JhrjfZzKI cyf3K0/7el3Cm2ig2EB1UI0/4+X2wn2Vldd+8BP7/dx6c6NbuY1cSRF0a5/e5Mpv 18Cg8wU+uohPQOk2aqFM90eFJyg4Cai1t77Ixz4VvrXQ9pJd4lLSRXkfNoxPCq/t lj6uPOx40X8c0sXYMqCHUHoeEicSqBqQ4gmVgKYGs2sBzU6iiySPE16ksqHaAh8r PyJPan3E3FfZL/Ee/E6oTv/2WOt4gJbIey+WrC15SW+XiGg6giT9A0chFInPu7lA PvWPjc7v2uU0v9sumL9mOOeIv8kdPV1CqYS6Uat9qPBLtJchsWD5ffmRd9sXCPB6 1Mwyz2oeVkL7ZDv46b4hYcxOLlqOZJeS+futqAkQmp96TRW1dTKUa1yVMmvw0uDy L8EPTmJUpbRPYOPMGIpWdIHzMMEhsVINAgnLcuGJPA== =IY02 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Fixing shorelines
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 02:23:52PM -0500, Phil! Gold wrote: * Eric H. Christensen e...@christensenplace.us [2012-12-11 21:24 -0500]: Is there a good way to make the PGS-sourced data match the Tiger data in certain areas to improve the accuracy? If you use JOSM, the ContourMerge plugin is very helpful here. You can select nodes on each of the TIGER and PGS ways near where they diverge from each other and then drag the coastline onto the administrative boundary. Be aware that both the TIGER and PGS imports periodically split ways to keep them from getting too long, so you might have to do the merging in several places along the full length of the overlap. Thanks for the advice. I've tried that technique and it seems to have done what I wanted but I'm withholding judgment until I actually see the results on the website. Even the TIGER data isn't perfect (though it's far better than PGS, at least in Maryland), so what I like to do it use the JOSM ImproveWayAccuracy plugin to align the administrative boundary to aerial imagery and then use the ContourMerge plugin to overlap the coastline ways. If there's no administrative boundary, I just use the ImproveWayAccuracy plugin on the coastline ways directly. Another great tool. On a side note, Anne Arundel County is kind enough to put their geodata into the public domain, plus they've got an ArcGIS REST server at http://gis-world.aacounty.org/ArcGIS/rest/services/ . I find their basemap, parcel, and orthoimagery layers to be very useful (although JOSM can't use them directly, as far as I know; I use tilestache to go between JOSM's tile underlays and the ArcGIS REST interface). I haven't seen that data before but will have to take a look at what's there. I've not been very impressed by the TIGER roadway data in my little town so I've been slowly making changes or verification that the data is correct. I just moved here so I'm just getting started on this project. -Eric pgp6K1uQ9EdgS.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Fixing shorelines
I just moved to the Deale, Maryland area and am working on cleaning up the Tiger data and mapping as many POI as I can. I found that the shoreline here, though, is very rough. Along the Chesapeake Bay the TIGER/Line® 2008 Place Shapefiles appears to outline the separation of water and land quite well but is labeled as an administrative boundary. The water boundary is sourced from PGS and does a good job in some areas but lacks much detail that the other provides. Is there a good way to make the PGS-sourced data match the Tiger data in certain areas to improve the accuracy? If you'd like to see what I'm talking about take a look at the area around N38.7773972 W76.543262. Thanks. -- Eric -- Eric H Christensene...@christensenplace.us Sparks spa...@fedoraproject.org . .-.. .-.. --- .-- --- .-. .-.. -.. 097C 82C3 52DF C64A 50C2 E3A3 8076 ABDE 024B B3D1 -- pgpEXm5QI7TEi.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
