Re: [Talk-us] Reference numbers to use for hiking trail route relations

2020-10-15 Thread Mark Brown

I've checked the latest topo maps from the US Forestry Service website - the 
trail number annotations remain but the "Pack" annotation is gone, so will 
delete those annotations. 

I've noticed that the US Topo Maps are way out of date before - whole rivers 
have shifted since the version that displays on JSOM was last compiled. Still, 
like TIGER roads, it's better than nothing I guess.



On Thu, 15 Oct 2020 12:14:35 -0700, stevea  wrote:

> On Oct 15, 2020, at 12:06 PM, Joseph Eisenberg  
> wrote:
> > Many of the old "pack trail" labeled features near my home-town are now 
> > overgrown and barely usable. I would be skeptical about the utility of this 
> > tag - mappers will need to survey the trail in person before suggesting 
> > that it is currently suitable for horse, mules or other pack animals.
> 
> Right:  many "trails" labelled "Pack Trail" are either from a long time ago 
> and/or mapped a long time ago.  I would be wary of the utility of this label 
> on many maps, but that can be said of many labels on many maps, especially 
> when they are older or specify an "older" aspect of a map label such as "Pack 
> Trail."  This has an old-fashioned sense about it, as while pack animals on 
> trails are certainly still used, it's safe to say far, far less than they 
> were in the 20th (and 19th and previous) centuries.
> 
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[Talk-us] Reference numbers to use for hiking trail route relations

2020-10-11 Thread Mark Brown
Greetings folks,

Just mapping some of the trails in the Cabinet Mountains in the Idaho 
panhandle, from the US Topo Maps. Noticed that the trails have numbers. What 
should I put in the "ref" for the route relation? Also, some of the trails are 
marked as Pack Trails but there is no documented tag in the wiki. Would adding 
"pack=yes" be acceptable?

Would be grateful for some guidance.

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Re: [Talk-us] Labeling county roads (Idaho)

2020-06-22 Thread Mark Brown
Thanks for all the feedback, especially from Kevin.

I will create road route relations as suggested, as I come across them. 



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On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 18:35:28 -0700, Mark Wagner  wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 21:45:19 +0900
> tj-osmw...@lowsnr.net wrote:
> 
> > Newby here.
> > 
> > Started mapping an area of the Idaho panhandle around the Kootenai
> > river. I notice that currently minor roads have a "County Road nn"
> > name but TIGER2019 data also has names such as "Acacia Avenue". I
> > think most map users would want to use the "Acacia Avenue" name as it
> > what would be listed in postal addresses and they'd want to search it
> > in applications such as OSMand. Question is how to handle this. Also,
> > what to set the "ref" to for county roads.
> > 
> > There's not much information on the roads tagging page:
> > 
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging#Individual_states_2
> > 
> > Proposal: use alt_name for "County Road nn" and name for "Acacia
> > Avenue" where a name is given. (I've seen name_1 used but this is not
> > really a "standard" OSM tag, AFAIK.)
> > 
> > For ref: set the ref to the county road number until someone can come
> > up with a better proposal...
> > 
> > Any Idahoans have any information?
> 
> Not an Idahoan, but I've driven in the area from time to time.  The
> roads I'm familiar with don't have a "County Road" designation on the
> sign, just the road name.
> 
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