Re: [Talk-us] Tags to use for chain stores in the United States

2013-12-11 Thread Sean Bartell
Richard Welty on 2013-12-11:
 On 12/11/13 3:18 PM, Mike N wrote:
   Just an opinion about the superstore that includes a full sized
  supermarket and full sized non-food department store: it almost merits
  its own tag, or at least 2 nodes to clearly show the 2 store classes.
  But then one could also argue to include the in-store bank,
  hairdresser, nail salon, snack shop, etc as separate nodes.
 separate nodes is probably the way to go, actually. a walmart super center
 consists of a walmart discount department store, a walmart supermarket, and
 a suite of the various in store services. i think you need a separate node
 because - citizen's bank, pizza hut, nathan's hot dogs, etc. you should
 identify
 the vendors providing the in store services because who they are can matter.

+1, especially since each sub-store may have its own opening hours,
website, and phone number. I've also been using separate nodes for
pharmacies and banks within supermarkets.

___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us


Re: [Talk-us] Hamlets!

2013-06-21 Thread Sean Bartell
Hello,

Serge Wroclawski on 2013-06-21:
 During the TIGER import, small neighborhoods were imported as hamlets.

 I'm wondering what other people's experience with the hamlets are. Are
 they useful where you live? Are they nonsense (as they have been in
 NYC and DC)?

I've only seen a few around here in NC. Some, such as West Park[0],
marked well-defined subdivisions, and I replaced them with areas.
Another one, Green Level[1], is an unincorporated community with its
own Wikipedia page, and place=hamlet actually seems to be correct.

 I'm thinking that it might be worthwhile to take some kind of action,
 either converting them to something else, or if there's really
 consensus, deleting them.

The ones that mark subdivisions may be doing more harm than good.
However, the one that marked a hamlet was correct, and the hamlet could
otherwise have been missed in survey, so deleting it would be a problem.

 I realized only after last week's discussion about neighborhoods that
 the hamlets (which are distinct from nehighborhoods) are the things
 messing up the geocoder. A neighborhood is understood to be a place
 that's not often in an address, but a hamlet is a village, and so a
 hamlet in the middle of an urban place doesn't make sense.

So a hamlet within municipal boundaries is almost certainly wrong. Could
we try to detect which imported hamlets are within cities, and delete
them or change them to place=neighbourhood?

Sean Bartell

[0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/204876141
[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/158391394

___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us


Re: [Talk-us] H. R. 1604 bill looking to force US government to contract out much of its mapping activity

2013-05-09 Thread Sean Bartell
Hello,

Mike N on 2013-05-09:
 On 5/8/2013 10:38 PM, Alex Barth wrote:
 OSM data and the OSM software ecosystem can play a huge role in this
 context. Open source and open data has proven its worth in tearing down
 institutional boundaries and making teams cooperate more efficiently
 many times over.
 
 That's the reason why we at the OSM US chapter are trying to connect
 government with government around using OSM:
 
   Good article - are there any rules that the result of US
 Government projects be public domain?

Works by federal government employees are public domain, but works by
contractors are not:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_work_by_the_U.S._government

Sean Bartell

___
Talk-us mailing list
Talk-us@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us